[geo] Trajectory sensitivity of the transient climate response to cumulative carbon emissions - Krasting - GRL - Wiley

2014-03-04 Thread Andrew Lockley
Poster's note : This will be of interest to those examining GGR
trajectories, and the interplay between SRM and mitigation.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2013GL059141/abstract?utm_content=buffer11d58utm_medium=socialutm_source=twitter.comutm_campaign=buffer

Keywords:

climate sensitivity;cumulative emissions;transient climate
response;TCRE;oceanic heat uptake;carbon sink

Abstract

[1] The robustness of Transient Climate Response to cumulative Emissions
(TCRE) is tested using an Earth System Model (GFDL-ESM2G) forced with 7
different constant rates of carbon emissions (2 GtC/yr to 25 GtC/yr),
including low emission rates that have been largely unexplored in previous
studies. We find the range of TCRE resulting from varying emission pathways
to be 0.76 to 1.04 °C/TtC. This range, however, is small compared to the
uncertainty resulting from varying model physics across the CMIP5 ensemble.
TCRE has a complex relationship with emission rates; TCRE is largest for
both low (2 GtC/yr) and high (25 GtC/yr) emissions and smallest for
present-day emissions (5-10 GtC/yr). Unforced climate variability hinders
precise estimates of TCRE for periods shorter than 50 years for emission
rates near or smaller than present day values. Even if carbon emissions
would stop, the prior emissions pathways will affect the future climate
responses.

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[geo] Physics Today artidcle

2014-03-04 Thread euggordon



Would anyone like to comment on this? It certainly deserves comment since right 
or wrong it appears in an authoritative journal. 



http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/magazine/physicstoday/news/10.1063/PT.5.8034?dm_i=1Y69,27QSN,E1MP2T,80LVA,1
 

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Re: [geo] Re: Geoengineering and Climate Change Polarization: Testing a Two-channel Model of Science Communication, Ann. Am. Acad. Pol. Soc. Sci.

2014-03-04 Thread John Nissen
Hi Greg,

The theory is that people tend to be polarised into two camps.  One camp is
against the idea that climate change can have anything to do with our
greenhouse gas emissions; and therefore (subconsciously) this camp is
against geoengineering because it would admit of a massive problem to be
solved.  The other camp is against geoengineering (subconsciously) because
of the moral hazard - the idea that it's a get out of jail free for the
people responsible for causing climate change in the first place.  They
will talk of geoengineering as a climate fix, that it is playing with
God, etc.

Kahan refers repeatedly to a 2012 study where it was shown that the moral
hazard argument against geoengineering was scientifically invalid.  But
subconsciously the second camp may still have this deep-seated fear of
geoengineering.

Therefore I deduce, using his argument, that neither camp will accept
geoengineering, whatever evidence of the need for geoengineering is
presented to them.

I think this is the crux of the matter: nobody, identified with either of
the common camps, will accept geoengineering.  Only when this impasse is
properly acknowledged, will it be possible for people to accept the
scientific evidence that geoengineering is needed, not only to suck CO2 out
of the atmosphere, but also to cool the Arctic.

Cheers,

John









On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote:

  This observation may bear repeating:
 To be effective, science communication must successfully negotiate both
 channels. That is, in addition to furnishing individuals with valid and
 pertinent information about how the world works, it must avail itself of
 the cues necessary to assure individuals that assenting to that information
 will not estrange them from their communities.

  Isn't this what good advertising does, and couldn't our community
 benefit from some cogent advice from Madison Ave, if we could afford it?
 Science and scientific reasoning alone apparently isn't enough, especially
 when there are (well funded) individuals who would cast such reasoning as a
 threat to their communities.
 Greg
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 *From:* geoengineering@googlegroups.com [geoengineering@googlegroups.com]
 on behalf of David Morrow [dmorr...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 03, 2014 6:27 PM
 *To:* geoengineering@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [geo] Re: Geoengineering and Climate Change Polarization:
 Testing a Two-channel Model of Science Communication, Ann. Am. Acad. Pol. 
 Soc. Sci.

   FYI, the lead author of that paper, Dan Kahan, posted two additional
 blog posts on culture, values, and geoengineering:


 http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2014/2/24/geoengineering-the-cultural-plasticity-of-climate-change-ris.html


 http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2014/2/26/geoengineering-the-science-communication-environment-the-cul.html



 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:04:00 AM UTC-6, andrewjlockley wrote:

 Poster's note : This is just brilliant. At last an explanation of why
 believing nonsense is rational. Useful to reflect on how this paper replies
 to the origin and persistence of other belief systems, as well as climate
 change. Leaves me wondering what nonsense I believe.

 http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2014/2/23/three-
 models-of-risk-perception-their-significance-for-self.html

 Three models of risk perception  their significance for self-government

 Dan Kahan Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2014 at 7:52AM

 From Geoengineering and Climate Change Polarization: Testing a
 Two-channel Model of Science Communication, Ann. Am. Acad. Pol.  Soc.
 Sci. (in press).

 Theoretical background

 Three models of risk perception

 The scholarly literature on risk perception and communication is
 dominated by two models. The first is the rational-weigher model, which
 posits that members of the public, in aggregate and over time, can be
 expected to process information about risk in a manner that promotes their
 expected utility (Starr 1969). The second is the irrational-weigher model,
 which asserts that ordinary members of the pubic lack the ability to
 reliably advance their expected utility because their assessment of risk
 information is constrained by cognitive biases and other manifestations of
 bounded rationality (Kahneman 2003; Sunstein 2005; Marx et al. 2007; Weber
 2006).Neither of these models cogently explains public conflict over
 climate change--or a host of other putative societal risks, such as nuclear
 power, the vaccination of teenage girls for HPV, and the removal of
 restrictions on carrying concealed handguns in public. Such disputes
 conspicuously feature partisan divisions over facts that admit of
 scientific investigation. Nothing in the rational-weigher model predicts
 that people with different values or opposing political commitments will
 draw radically different inferences from common information. Likewise,
 nothing in the irrational-weigher model suggests that people who 

Re: [geo] Re: Geoengineering and Climate Change Polarization: Testing a Two-channel Model of Science Communication, Ann. Am. Acad. Pol. Soc. Sci.

2014-03-04 Thread Andrew Lockley
My understanding is that many conservatives are rather fond of
geoengineering as it allows the continuing BAU pathway (at least
superficially).

Further, as David  Keith has pointed out, a degree of moral hazard is
entirely rational. However, what's surprising is that a degree of negative
or perverse moral hazard has been found in a couple of studies. IE that
some people become more worried about AGW when CE is explained. This can
potentially be rationalised by the shift in perception caused by realising
CE is considered a serious option. I guess they'd prefer blue skies to
SUVs, and facing that choice makes it more pressing.

My own serious games work supported negative moral hazard, but had to be
ditched due to methodology flaws.

A
 On 4 Mar 2014 19:22, John Nissen johnnissen2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Greg,

 The theory is that people tend to be polarised into two camps.  One camp
 is against the idea that climate change can have anything to do with our
 greenhouse gas emissions; and therefore (subconsciously) this camp is
 against geoengineering because it would admit of a massive problem to be
 solved.  The other camp is against geoengineering (subconsciously) because
 of the moral hazard - the idea that it's a get out of jail free for the
 people responsible for causing climate change in the first place.  They
 will talk of geoengineering as a climate fix, that it is playing with
 God, etc.

 Kahan refers repeatedly to a 2012 study where it was shown that the moral
 hazard argument against geoengineering was scientifically invalid.  But
 subconsciously the second camp may still have this deep-seated fear of
 geoengineering.

 Therefore I deduce, using his argument, that neither camp will accept
 geoengineering, whatever evidence of the need for geoengineering is
 presented to them.

 I think this is the crux of the matter: nobody, identified with either of
 the common camps, will accept geoengineering.  Only when this impasse is
 properly acknowledged, will it be possible for people to accept the
 scientific evidence that geoengineering is needed, not only to suck CO2 out
 of the atmosphere, but also to cool the Arctic.

 Cheers,

 John









 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote:

  This observation may bear repeating:
 To be effective, science communication must successfully negotiate both
 channels. That is, in addition to furnishing individuals with valid and
 pertinent information about how the world works, it must avail itself of
 the cues necessary to assure individuals that assenting to that information
 will not estrange them from their communities.

  Isn't this what good advertising does, and couldn't our community
 benefit from some cogent advice from Madison Ave, if we could afford it?
 Science and scientific reasoning alone apparently isn't enough, especially
 when there are (well funded) individuals who would cast such reasoning as a
 threat to their communities.
 Greg
  --
 *From:* geoengineering@googlegroups.com [geoengineering@googlegroups.com]
 on behalf of David Morrow [dmorr...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 03, 2014 6:27 PM
 *To:* geoengineering@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [geo] Re: Geoengineering and Climate Change Polarization:
 Testing a Two-channel Model of Science Communication, Ann. Am. Acad. Pol. 
 Soc. Sci.

   FYI, the lead author of that paper, Dan Kahan, posted two additional
 blog posts on culture, values, and geoengineering:


 http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2014/2/24/geoengineering-the-cultural-plasticity-of-climate-change-ris.html


 http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2014/2/26/geoengineering-the-science-communication-environment-the-cul.html



 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:04:00 AM UTC-6, andrewjlockley wrote:

 Poster's note : This is just brilliant. At last an explanation of why
 believing nonsense is rational. Useful to reflect on how this paper replies
 to the origin and persistence of other belief systems, as well as climate
 change. Leaves me wondering what nonsense I believe.

 http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2014/2/23/three-
 models-of-risk-perception-their-significance-for-self.html

 Three models of risk perception  their significance for self-government

 Dan Kahan Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2014 at 7:52AM

 From Geoengineering and Climate Change Polarization: Testing a
 Two-channel Model of Science Communication, Ann. Am. Acad. Pol.  Soc.
 Sci. (in press).

 Theoretical background

 Three models of risk perception

 The scholarly literature on risk perception and communication is
 dominated by two models. The first is the rational-weigher model, which
 posits that members of the public, in aggregate and over time, can be
 expected to process information about risk in a manner that promotes their
 expected utility (Starr 1969). The second is the irrational-weigher model,
 which asserts that ordinary members of the pubic lack the ability to
 reliably advance their 

Re: [geo] Alternative to Wind turbines as hurricane tamers?

2014-03-04 Thread Michael Hayes
The issue of energy distribution (getting the energy to shore) seems to be 
a key operational and financial consideration. Having both the profits from 
wind/wave/otec/solar energy conversion and MCB would help overcome the high 
cost of the gear while establishing the largest possible cooling footprint. 



If this storm mitigation grid were to use hydraulic lines as the energy 
distribution grid, those lines could be outfitted with forward 
osmosishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_osmosisunits which would allow 
for shore deliver of both energy and freshwater. We 
need both.



Best,

Michael
  

On Saturday, March 1, 2014 5:07:09 PM UTC-8, Greg Rau wrote:

 Why not (also) use beefed up hydrokinetic electricity generation to take 
 advantage of (and to dissipate) the storm energy imparted to the ocean? 
  Prof. Salter might want to weigh here.  Both approaches would seem to 
 benefit if there were cost effective ways of storing the large but 
 relatively short term quantity of electricity produced, e.g. pumped water 
 or pressurized air storage(?)
 Greg

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 *Subject:* [geo] Alternative to Wind turbines as hurricane tamers?
  
 Hello All,

 The wind-turbine idea is an interesting one, and clearly should be studied 
 further.

 However, we favour an approach, described in the attached, recently 
 published 
 paper on hurricane weakening via Marine Cloud Brightening (MCB), in which 
 MCB ocean-surface-waters cooling, in regions where hurricanes spawn,
 stifles the growth of some hurricanes, and inhibits the creation of others.

 [We prefer to weaken their early growth or render them stillborn]

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 http://www.mmm.ucar.edu/people/latham
 
 From: geoengi...@googlegroups.com javascript: [
 geoengi...@googlegroups.com javascript:] on behalf of Mark Z. Jacobson [
 jaco...@stanford.edu javascript:]
 Sent: 28 February 2014 16:02
 To: Hawkins, Dave; Jim Fleming
 Cc: Geoengineering
 Subject: Re: [geo] Wind turbines as hurricane tamers?

 Dear all, the paper is located at


 http://www.stanford.edu/group/efmh/jacobson/Articles/I/WindHurricane/WindHurric.html

 The turbines would be installed primarily to generate electric power
 year around and would pay for themselves over time doing this. There is
 a cost analysis in the paper assuming 1-2 hurricanes striking a given
 area over 30 years. The cost benefit of the turbines per kWh averaged
 over this time is much smaller than the air pollution cost reduction
 benefit, which is why the primary purpose is to generate
 electricity/offset fossil fuels. Hurricane dampening would be a
 secondary free benefit, unlike sea walls, which cost $30 billion for
 one city but don't pay for themselves or reduce wind speed (only storm
 surge).

 Sincerely,
 Mark Jacobson



 On 2/28/14 7:07 AM, Hawkins, Dave wrote:
  True enough.  Suggests that hurricane taming would be at best a 
 secondary factor in size and location of offshore wind farms.  One could do 
 a probabilistic analysis and see if the hurricane taming potential had 
 noticeable economic value.
 
  Typed on tiny keyboard. Caveat lector.
 
 
  On Feb 28, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Jim Fleming jfle...@colby.edujavascript:
 mailto:jflem...@colby.edu javascript: wrote:
 
  This analysis assumes you know where upstream of a city actually is. 
 See the attached map of Florida landfalling hurricane trajectories.tracks 
 of hurricanes.jpg
 
  James Fleming
  On Sabbatical
  STS Program
  Colby College
  Web: http://www.colby.edu/profile/jfleminghttp://web.colby.edu/jfleming
 
 
  Toxic Airs (March 2014)
  http://www.upress.pitt.edu/BookDetails.aspx?bookId=36392
 
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Hawkins, Dave 
  dhaw...@nrdc.orgjavascript:
 mailto:dhawk...@nrdc.org javascript: wrote:
  Interesting analysis suggesting an action that is both a type of 
 geo-engineering and emissions mitigation.
 
 
  Abstract of Nature Climate Change paper
 
  Hurricanes are causing increasing damage to many coastal regions 
 worldwide. Offshore wind turbines can provide substantial clean electricity 
 year-round, but can they also mitigate hurricane damage while avoiding 
 damage to themselves? This study uses an advanced climate–weather 

Re: [geo] Physics Today artidcle

2014-03-04 Thread David Appell
Bart Verheggen makes a pretty good case that the Christy  Spencer graph 
of model vs observed results is misleading, for two reasons: it uses 
only 5-year running averages, and because of the way it re-baselines:


http://ourchangingclimate.wordpress.com/2014/02/22/john-christy-richard-mcnider-roy-spencer-flat-earth-hot-spot-figure-baseline/

Their graph badly needs to be peer reviewed, as do other statements 
Christy has made in public -- such as pushing an Anthony Watts paper 
in Congress the day after it appeared on the Web, purporting to find 
problems in the US surface station records. Problems with it were 
immediately pointed on the Web, and the Watts et al paper still hasn't 
appeared in a journal about 1.7 years later.


David
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On 3/4/2014 9:56 AM, euggor...@comcast.net wrote:



Would anyone like to comment on this? It certainly deserves comment 
since right or wrong it appears in an authoritative journal.


http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/magazine/physicstoday/news/10.1063/PT.5.8034?dm_i=1Y69,27QSN,E1MP2T,80LVA,1 



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Re: [geo] Physics Today article

2014-03-04 Thread Mike MacCracken
And then there is Holdren¹s rebuttal of Christy. See
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/03/03/3349411/john-holdren-roger-pielk
e-climate-drought/

Mike


On 3/4/14 4:15 PM, David Appell david.app...@gmail.com wrote:


 Bart Verheggen makes a pretty good case that the Christy  Spencer graph of
 model vs observed results is misleading, for two reasons: it uses only 5-year
 running averages, and because of the way it re-baselines:
  
 http://ourchangingclimate.wordpress.com/2014/02/22/john-christy-richard-mcnide
 r-roy-spencer-flat-earth-hot-spot-figure-baseline/
  
  Their graph badly needs to be peer reviewed, as do other statements Christy
 has made in public -- such as pushing an Anthony Watts paper in Congress the
 day after it appeared on the Web, purporting to find problems in the US
 surface station records. Problems with it were immediately pointed on the Web,
 and the Watts et al paper still hasn't appeared in a journal about 1.7 years
 later.
  
  David
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  On 3/4/2014 9:56 AM, euggor...@comcast.net wrote:
  
  
   
  
 
 
  Would anyone like to comment on this? It certainly deserves comment since
 right or wrong it appears in an authoritative journal.
  
 
  
  
 
 http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/magazine/physicstoday/news/10.1063/PT.5.
 8034?dm_i=1Y69,27QSN,E1MP2T,80LVA,1
  
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Re: [geo] Physics Today article

2014-03-04 Thread Mike MacCracken
OOPS‹wrong skeptic. But article is god in any case.

Mike

And then there is Holdren¹s rebuttal of Christy. See
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/03/03/3349411/john-holdren-roger-pielk
e-climate-drought/

Mike


On 3/4/14 4:15 PM, David Appell david.app...@gmail.com wrote:


 Bart Verheggen makes a pretty good case that the Christy  Spencer graph of
 model vs observed results is misleading, for two reasons: it uses only 5-year
 running averages, and because of the way it re-baselines:
  
 http://ourchangingclimate.wordpress.com/2014/02/22/john-christy-richard-mcnide
 r-roy-spencer-flat-earth-hot-spot-figure-baseline/
  
  Their graph badly needs to be peer reviewed, as do other statements Christy
 has made in public -- such as pushing an Anthony Watts paper in Congress the
 day after it appeared on the Web, purporting to find problems in the US
 surface station records. Problems with it were immediately pointed on the Web,
 and the Watts et al paper still hasn't appeared in a journal about 1.7 years
 later.
  
  David
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  e: david.app...@gmail.com
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  On 3/4/2014 9:56 AM, euggor...@comcast.net wrote:
  
  
   
  
 
 
  Would anyone like to comment on this? It certainly deserves comment since
 right or wrong it appears in an authoritative journal.
  
 
  
  
 
 http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/magazine/physicstoday/news/10.1063/PT.5.
 8034?dm_i=1Y69,27QSN,E1MP2T,80LVA,1
  
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Re: [geo] Re: Geoengineering and Climate Change Polarization: Testing a Two-channel Model of Science Communication, Ann. Am. Acad. Pol. Soc. Sci.

2014-03-04 Thread Rau, Greg
Buck up, John. Once the real hazards of rising sea level, failed crops, and 
acidified oceans materialize, the decision-makers just might yearn for some 
hazards of the moral kind. And you and I might still be around when that 
happens. Even then there is no guarantee that any countering action will be 
effective and safe unless we do some research to find out before the real need 
for hazard mitigation arises, which for some of us is right now.
Keep up the good fight...
Greg

From: John Nissen johnnissen2...@gmail.commailto:johnnissen2...@gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:21 AM
To: Default r...@llnl.govmailto:r...@llnl.gov
Cc: dmorr...@gmail.commailto:dmorr...@gmail.com 
dmorr...@gmail.commailto:dmorr...@gmail.com, geoengineering 
geoengineering@googlegroups.commailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com, 
dan.ka...@yale.edumailto:dan.ka...@yale.edu 
dan.ka...@yale.edumailto:dan.ka...@yale.edu, John Nissen 
j...@cloudworld.co.ukmailto:j...@cloudworld.co.uk
Subject: Re: [geo] Re: Geoengineering and Climate Change Polarization: Testing 
a Two-channel Model of Science Communication, Ann. Am. Acad. Pol.  Soc. Sci.

Hi Greg,

The theory is that people tend to be polarised into two camps.  One camp is 
against the idea that climate change can have anything to do with our 
greenhouse gas emissions; and therefore (subconsciously) this camp is against 
geoengineering because it would admit of a massive problem to be solved.  The 
other camp is against geoengineering (subconsciously) because of the moral 
hazard - the idea that it's a get out of jail free for the people responsible 
for causing climate change in the first place.  They will talk of 
geoengineering as a climate fix, that it is playing with God, etc.

Kahan refers repeatedly to a 2012 study where it was shown that the moral 
hazard argument against geoengineering was scientifically invalid.  But 
subconsciously the second camp may still have this deep-seated fear of 
geoengineering.

Therefore I deduce, using his argument, that neither camp will accept 
geoengineering, whatever evidence of the need for geoengineering is presented 
to them.

I think this is the crux of the matter: nobody, identified with either of the 
common camps, will accept geoengineering.  Only when this impasse is properly 
acknowledged, will it be possible for people to accept the scientific evidence 
that geoengineering is needed, not only to suck CO2 out of the atmosphere, but 
also to cool the Arctic.

Cheers,

John









On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.govmailto:r...@llnl.gov 
wrote:
This observation may bear repeating:
To be effective, science communication must successfully negotiate both 
channels. That is, in addition to furnishing individuals with valid and 
pertinent information about how the world works, it must avail itself of the 
cues necessary to assure individuals that assenting to that information will 
not estrange them from their communities.

Isn't this what good advertising does, and couldn't our community benefit from 
some cogent advice from Madison Ave, if we could afford it? Science and 
scientific reasoning alone apparently isn't enough, especially when there are 
(well funded) individuals who would cast such reasoning as a threat to their 
communities.
Greg

From: geoengineering@googlegroups.commailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com 
[geoengineering@googlegroups.commailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com] on 
behalf of David Morrow [dmorr...@gmail.commailto:dmorr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 6:27 PM
To: geoengineering@googlegroups.commailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com
Subject: [geo] Re: Geoengineering and Climate Change Polarization: Testing a 
Two-channel Model of Science Communication, Ann. Am. Acad. Pol.  Soc. Sci.

FYI, the lead author of that paper, Dan Kahan, posted two additional blog posts 
on culture, values, and geoengineering:

http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2014/2/24/geoengineering-the-cultural-plasticity-of-climate-change-ris.html

http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2014/2/26/geoengineering-the-science-communication-environment-the-cul.html



On Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:04:00 AM UTC-6, andrewjlockley wrote:

Poster's note : This is just brilliant. At last an explanation of why believing 
nonsense is rational. Useful to reflect on how this paper replies to the origin 
and persistence of other belief systems, as well as climate change. Leaves me 
wondering what nonsense I believe.

http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2014/2/23/three-models-of-risk-perception-their-significance-for-self.html

Three models of risk perception  their significance for self-government

Dan Kahan Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2014 at 7:52AM

From Geoengineering and Climate Change Polarization: Testing a Two-channel 
Model of Science Communication, Ann. Am. Acad. Pol.  Soc. Sci. (in press).

Theoretical background

Three models of risk perception

The scholarly literature