Re: [geo] Re: Lithium-CO2 tech and CO2 extraction

2017-08-17 Thread Rau, Greg
OK, if metal global abundance is the issue how about Fe-CO2 fuel cells?: 
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0196890403003078<https://web.anl.gov/PCS/acsfuel/preprint%20archive/Files/49_1_Anaheim_03-04_0856.pdf>
Competition for other Fe uses probably make this mute plus such fuel cells have 
not been demonstrated.  Or if you have some spare, non-fossil electricity 
laying around you can always make lots of environmentally-beneficial metal (Mg 
or Ca) (bi)carbonates from globally abundant base minerals and air CO2, while 
generating C-negative H2: http://www.pnas.org/content/110/25/10095.abstract   
OK, I’m not making elemental C or conc CO2, but I don’t think we need to.
Greg

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Subject: [geo] Re: Lithium-CO2 tech and CO2 extraction

I'm puzzled that this should be produced without  dimensional analysis :

Globlal annual  CO2 production from fossil fuel exceeeds  20 kilomoles per 
capita.
Global lithium production last year  amounted to less than 1 mole per capita

Global  lithium reserves are on the order  of  1 kilomole per capita.


The question will remain  theoretical until a  lithium produced from sea water 
hits the market at close to currrent prices,

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 5:57:38 PM UTC-4, E Durbrow wrote:


If I understand this correctly, researchers have developed a way to take a 
stream of pure CO2 and extract oxygen and carbon at very high efficiency. At 
least according to the summary, ambient stream may be possible and efficient.

summary: 
https://phys.org/news/2017-08-battery-inspired-strategy-carbon-fixation.html

P.S. I tried to find the abstract but could not get to it. Perhaps not out yet.



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[geo] Re: Lithium-CO2 tech and CO2 extraction

2017-08-14 Thread Russell Seitz / Bright Water
I'm puzzled that this should be produced without  dimensional analysis : 

Globlal annual  CO2 production from fossil fuel exceeeds  20 kilomoles per 
capita. 
Global lithium production last year  amounted to less than 1 mole per capita

Global  lithium reserves are on the order  of  1 kilomole per capita. 


The question will remain  theoretical until a  lithium produced from sea 
water hits the market at close to currrent prices, 

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 5:57:38 PM UTC-4, E Durbrow wrote:
>
>
>
> If I understand this correctly, researchers have developed a way to take a 
> stream of pure CO2 and extract oxygen and carbon at very high efficiency. 
> At least according to the summary, ambient stream may be possible and 
> efficient. 
>
> summary: 
> https://phys.org/news/2017-08-battery-inspired-strategy-carbon-fixation.html
>
> P.S. I tried to find the abstract but could not get to it. Perhaps not out 
> yet. 
>
>
>

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