[geos-devel] Re: [GEOS] #488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS fails]

2011-12-15 Thread GEOS
#488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS fails]
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 Reporter:  sky |Owner:  geos-devel@…  
 Type:  defect  |   Status:  reopened  
 Priority:  major   |Milestone:  GEOS Future   
Component:  Default |  Version:  svn-trunk 
 Severity:  Unassigned  |   Resolution:
 Keywords:  jts fails   |  
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Comment(by strk):

 self-unioning an operand becoming invalid after snap fixes this case.
 Attaching an updated reduced version with expected result (obtained with
 this heuristic)

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[geos-devel] Re: [GEOS] #488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS FAILS]

2011-12-14 Thread GEOS
#488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS FAILS]
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 Reporter:  sky |   Owner:  geos-devel@…  
 Type:  defect  |  Status:  new   
 Priority:  major   |   Milestone:  3.4.0 
Component:  Default | Version:  svn-trunk 
 Severity:  Unassigned  |Keywords:  jtsfail   
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Comment(by strk):

 But hold on a second: the input geometry is invalid:

 $ ./tests/xmltester/XMLTester --test-valid-input
 ~/Desktop/Download/bug488.xml
 /home/strk/Desktop/Download/bug488.xml: case0: test0: :  invalid geometry
 (Geometry A): Self-intersection at or near point 2.4182989742693599
 48.878099566078362

 What told you they were valid ?

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[geos-devel] Re: [GEOS] #488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS FAILS]

2011-12-14 Thread GEOS
#488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS FAILS]
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 Reporter:  sky |   Owner:  geos-devel@…  
 Type:  defect  |  Status:  new   
 Priority:  major   |   Milestone:  3.4.0 
Component:  Default | Version:  svn-trunk 
 Severity:  Unassigned  |Keywords:  jtsfail   
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Comment(by strk):

 Could it be your controls were affected by bug #333 ?
 Could you double check ?

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[geos-devel] Re: [GEOS] #488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS FAILS]

2011-12-14 Thread GEOS
#488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS FAILS]
+---
 Reporter:  sky |   Owner:  geos-devel@…  
 Type:  defect  |  Status:  new   
 Priority:  major   |   Milestone:  3.4.0 
Component:  Default | Version:  svn-trunk 
 Severity:  Unassigned  |Keywords:  jtsfail   
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Comment(by sky):

 No not this bug, but, effectively, I've a weird behavior. In my test I
 check the polygon one by one before the creation of my collection. They
 are all valid. But when I run isValid() on the created collection it
 fails… Do you have an idea of how it's possible ?

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[geos-devel] Re: [GEOS] #488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS FAILS]

2011-12-14 Thread GEOS
#488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS FAILS]
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 Reporter:  sky |   Owner:  geos-devel@…  
 Type:  defect  |  Status:  new   
 Priority:  major   |   Milestone:  3.4.0 
Component:  Default | Version:  svn-trunk 
 Severity:  Unassigned  |Keywords:  jtsfail   
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Comment(by strk):

 A MultiPolygon in which two polygons overlap is not valid.

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[geos-devel] Re: [GEOS] #488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS FAILS]

2011-12-14 Thread GEOS
#488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS FAILS]
+---
 Reporter:  sky |   Owner:  geos-devel@…  
 Type:  defect  |  Status:  new   
 Priority:  major   |   Milestone:  3.4.0 
Component:  Default | Version:  svn-trunk 
 Severity:  Unassigned  |Keywords:  jtsfail   
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Comment(by strk):

 sky: please let me know if you have any really valid input for this, or
 close it as invalid.
 Thanks!

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[geos-devel] Re: [GEOS] #488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS fails]

2011-12-14 Thread GEOS
#488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS fails]
+---
 Reporter:  sky |Owner:  geos-devel@…  
 Type:  defect  |   Status:  reopened  
 Priority:  major   |Milestone:  3.4.0 
Component:  Default |  Version:  svn-trunk 
 Severity:  Unassigned  |   Resolution:
 Keywords:  jts fails   |  
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Comment(by sky):

 Ok, thank you. Will you open the bug upstream or am I suppose to do it ?

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[geos-devel] Re: [GEOS] #488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS fails]

2011-12-14 Thread GEOS
#488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS fails]
+---
 Reporter:  sky |Owner:  geos-devel@…  
 Type:  defect  |   Status:  reopened  
 Priority:  major   |Milestone:  GEOS Future   
Component:  Default |  Version:  svn-trunk 
 Severity:  Unassigned  |   Resolution:
 Keywords:  jts fails   |  
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Comment(by mdavis):

 This issue is caused by the fact that the input geometry has vertices with
 very high precision, and nearly-coincident line segments.  This occurs
 both internal to and between geometries.

 Attached is a reduced test case containing only two polygons and using
 binary union directly.

 This is a common cause of robustness failure in the current JTS/GEOS
 overlay algorithm.  Fixing this will require some deep design changes in
 JTS and/or better heuristics for handling failures.

 A workaround is to reduce the precision of the input geometries.  Using 10
 decimal places seems to work.

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[geos-devel] Re: [GEOS] #488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS fails]

2011-12-14 Thread GEOS
#488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS fails]
+---
 Reporter:  sky |Owner:  geos-devel@…  
 Type:  defect  |   Status:  reopened  
 Priority:  major   |Milestone:  GEOS Future   
Component:  Default |  Version:  svn-trunk 
 Severity:  Unassigned  |   Resolution:
 Keywords:  jts fails   |  
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Comment(by strk):

 Don't Union operations already perform precision reduction as an heuristic
 on topology exception ?

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[geos-devel] Re: [GEOS] #488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS fails]

2011-12-14 Thread GEOS
#488: TopologyException unioning valid geometries [JTS fails]
+---
 Reporter:  sky |Owner:  geos-devel@…  
 Type:  defect  |   Status:  reopened  
 Priority:  major   |Milestone:  GEOS Future   
Component:  Default |  Version:  svn-trunk 
 Severity:  Unassigned  |   Resolution:
 Keywords:  jts fails   |  
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Comment(by strk):

 Enabling some debugging code in GEOS here's what I see:
 {{{
 Trying with original input.
 Original exception: TopologyException: no outgoing dirEdge found at
 2.4121639662098748 48.875557185142789
 Trying with Common Bits Remover (CBR)
 CBR: TopologyException: no outgoing dirEdge found at 0.41216396620987483
 0.8755571851427888
 Trying with snapping
 Computed snap tolerance: 7.513087031840282175e-12
 Computed common bits: 2 48
 SNAP: snapped geom 1 is INVALID: Self-intersection at or near point
 0.41216396620987439 0.8755571851427888 (0.41216396620987438837
 0.87555718514278879638)
 SNAP: TopologyException: side location conflict at 0.41216396620987439
 0.8755571851427888
 EXCEPTION on case 1 test 1: TopologyException: no outgoing dirEdge found
 at 2.4121639662098748 48.875557185142789
 }}}

 I think the key is in the 'snapped geom 1 is INVALID' message, which means
 that geometry snapping is _introducing_ an invalidity. I saw this in other
 cases as well, don't remember if I also filed a bug for JTS about it.
 Anyway see also #501.

 If I'm not mistaken the problem is always with snapping making a portion
 of a polygon collapse to become a line, thus making that part invalid.

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