Re: get_iplayer for RTE?

2015-02-17 Thread Vangelis forthnet

On Tue Feb 00 07:35:09 GNT 2015, CJB wrote:


Part 2 took an hour with Audacity
(then there were some disconnections
/ interruptions involving editing).


If by Part 2 you mean that:

http://www.rte.ie/lyricfm/the-lyric-feature/programmes/2015/0130/676840-the-lyric-feature-friday-30-january-2015/?clipid=1790964

why would you use Audacity to record it?
IIANM, Audacity records from your sound card
in real  time (i.e. as the audio is being played back
in your browser), so you have:
1. Decoding from HE-AAC to Wave
2. Encoding from Wave to the audio codec of your choice (LAME MP3?).
3. Possible pollution of the recorded sound from other audio sources in 
your machine...


The point of me posting that detailed tutorial was that
it could be applied to other radio programmes, too!
FWIW, the rtmpdump command for the Jan 30th broadcast is:

rtmpdump -r rtmpe://fmsod.rte.ie:1935/ -a rtevod -f WIN 16,0,0,305 -W 
http://www.rte.ie/static/radio/radioplayer/rteradioweb_70_osmf.swf; -p 
http://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html; -C O:1 -C 
O:0 -y 
mp4:/audio/2015/0130/20150130_rtelyricfm-thelyricfeature-thelyricfe_cl10368209_10370397_261_/20150130_rtelyricfm-thelyricfeature-thelyricfe_cl10368209_10370397_261_.mp4 
-o The Lyric Feature Friday 30 January 2015 - Freeborn Man (part 2).flv


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Re: Another download failure ...

2015-02-17 Thread Vangelis forthnet

On Mon Feb 16 17:18:07 GMT 2015, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:

INFO: iPlayer metadata URL = 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/playlist/p02j6j0x
INFO: iPlayer metadata URL (JSON) 
=http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02j6j0x/playlist.json

INFO: Getting page http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02j6j0x.rdf
INFO: Getting page 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/4/mtis/stream/p02j6j0z?cb=57876


Greetings, Jeremy :-)

From that partial verbose log that you posted,

I'm seeing that your copy of GiP tries the
playlist method to retrieve the show's vPID;
were you using the --playlist-metadata switch
or is it stored in your options?
Furthermore, after retrieving the vPID string
(=p02j6j0z), it uses the older mediaselector/4
API URL to gain access to available streams;
currently, this provides only stream data for the
phased-out MMS (WMA) streams:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/4/mtis/stream/p02j6j0z
Were you using the --mediaselector =4 switch?

If NO to both of my questions, then you are using
a deprecated version of GiP.
GiP 2.91+ uses by default the new metadata
extraction URL:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/[pid].xml
and the mediaselector/5 API URL:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/pc/vpid/p02j6j0z
which does indeed return flashaac modes
(but not the wma one...).

More at:
http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git/commit/2be84bdbdb6a2d643bfdddbe91bb58e01a642530
http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git/commit/2a23f8ebe5752844744fd6f90d0c188070e3230a

Cheers,
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Re: Another download failure ...

2015-02-17 Thread Vangelis forthnet

On Mon Feb 16 16:20:05 GMT 2015, CJB wrote:


the_drift_name_radio
Matches:
12917: The Drift - 15/02/2015, BBC Radio Lancashire,

ERROR: Failed to get version pid metadata from iplayer site
WARNING: PVR Run: the_drift_name_radio: 1 download failure(s)


Testing as I write, radio programme
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02j6j0x
DOES PLAY in a browser; right clicking in
the embedded player shows:
128kbps | RTMP (akamai) |
So, if it's a version from the Akamai CDN
streamed over the RTMP protocol,
there's a flashaac radiomode GiP can fetch!

perl get_iplayer-291.pl --type=radio --pid=p02j6j0x --modes=flashaac --force

does download fine a flashaacstd mode:

C:\Program Files\get_iplayerperl 
get_iplayer-291.pl --type=radio --pid=p02j6j0x

--modes=flashaac --force
get_iplayer v2.91, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis
 This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details 
use --warranty.
 This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under 
certain

 conditions; use --conditions for details.

INFO Trying to stream pid using type radio
INFO: pid found in cache
Matches:
12901:  The Drift - 15/02/2015, BBC Radio Lancashire,

INFO: 1 Matching Programmes
INFO: Checking existence of default version
INFO: flashaacstd1,flashaacstd2,flashaaclow1,flashaaclow2 modes will be 
tried fo

r version default
INFO: Trying flashaacstd1 mode to record radio: The Drift - 335. 15/02/2015
INFO: File name prefix = The_Drift_-_335._15_02_2015_p02j6j0x_default

RTMPDump v2.4 GIT-2015-01-15 (Compiled by KSV)
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Connecting ...
INFO: Connected...
Starting download at: 0.000 kB
INFO: Metadata:
INFO:   duration3616.00
INFO:   moovPosition72.00
INFO:   audiocodecidmp4a
INFO:   aacaot  2.00
INFO:   audiosamplerate 48000.00
INFO:   audiochannels   2.00
INFO: trackinfo:
INFO:   length  173568000.00
INFO:   timescale   48000.00
INFO:   languageund
INFO: sampledescription:
INFO:   sampletype  mp4a
59314.381 kB / 3615.98 sec (99.9%)
Download complete
--
size=   57164kB time=01:00:16.00 bitrate= 129.5kbits/s
video:0kB audio:56500kB subtitle:0kB other streams:0kB global headers:0kB 
muxing

overhead: 1.174331%
INFO: Recorded D:\Vangelis\iPlayer 
Recordings\The_Drift_-_335._15_02_2015_p02j6j

0x_default.m4a

NB: Local Radio streams are non-geofiltered; you can grab
the flashaacstd mode even from overseas

(Apologies if this was a Monday-only problem,
later rectified by the Beeb...)

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Re: Query re BBC On Demand Radio

2015-02-17 Thread Vangelis forthnet

On Tue Feb 17 15:53:30 GMT 2015, Prisca wrote:


I don't fully understand how get_iplayer works
what is likely to happen at the end of February 
when the WMA/AAC streams for on demand radio are turned off. 
Will this have any impact on get_iplayer?
I've never really figured out where the streams I download 
actually come from.


On Tue Feb 17 19:06:22 GMT 2015, Prisca wrote:

My query really related to how/where get_iplayer obtained 
the radio links and whether it would still be able 
to download radio programs after the switch off.


Hi Prisca :-)

The wma streams are being phased out as we speak; 
I can't find wma-OD streams for newly broadcast content 
on Radios 1  2 (e.g. pid=b0528kgc) - Radio 3 programmes 
continue to have a WMA-OD version (e.g. pid=b052gzr7) 
at the time of writing.
GiP 2.91 doesn't search for WMA streams (by default) 
in any case; use the --mediaselector=4 switch to try and 
grab any remaining available wma-radiomodes, but the app 
that is used (MPlayer) for dumping isn't reliable...
It isn't true they are axing the AAC AOD streams; one mode 
of delivery (via the RTMP protocol) will be discontinued 
sometime during this current year 2015 - they (the Beeb) 
have been very vague in their statements... This mode is 
what in GiP terms is referred to as flashaac radiomode.
The RTMP protocol delivery will be phased out in favour 
of a HTTP protocol delivery - this is suported currently by 
two technologies:
1. AdobeHDS (targeting desktops/laptops)  
2. AppleHLS (targeting mobile devices).
A third one (MPEG-DASH) is currently experimental 
and under development, but they seem to like it a lot...
When the RTMP AOD streams die, it's hard to tell what'll 
happen. GiP already has support for the AppleHLS 
streams (main method for accessing Live TV); try them by 
using --modes=hlsaac with your radio fetches; 
sadly, it takes a lot longer to download compared to the 
flashaac ones...
GiP lacks support currently for AdobeHDS streams; 
there are solutions available for the more savvy - eventually 
FFmpeg (a helper app used by GiP) will incorporate 
support for such streams...
Be sure that the dev of GiP keeps an eye on the changes 
the BBC implements and tries his absolute best to come up 
with solutions - have faith!
(What is ominous with these new methods is that they 
leave room for DRM encryption - if to be implemented, I 
fear this would be the definite end of GiP ... :-(  ).
As to where the streams are coming from, I'm afraid 
I'd bore you with a lot of techie talk - In a nutshell, 
the files are uploaded by the Beeb on networks of 
storage servers, called CDNs - then they are streamed to 
the clients devices (e.g. your PC browser or your iPad) via different 
streaming techniques.
When you tell GiP to fetch a radio programme 
(by providing a pid string), GiP queries various BBC servers to 
acquire needed metadata that will grant it access to the CDNs 
where the files are stored - then, depending on the streaming 
method, will invoke the suitable helper app (rtmpdump, ffmpeg, 
mplayer) to start saving the stream onto your disk - further apps 
are then used so that in the end you get a playable and tagged 
file for your listening pleasure!


Cheers,
Vangelis.

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Re: Another download failure ...

2015-02-17 Thread Vangelis forthnet

On Mon Feb 16 23:14:16 GMT 2015, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:


I have a feeling that the standard installer allows one to
- open a command window
- set the current directory to wherever get_iplayer is
   installed to (or maybe run a batch file that does these
   two things for you resulting in a command window that's
   got the right directory preset), or maybe the directory
   that matters is where perl is installed - dunno
 - issue a command


My Get_iPlayer.lnk desktop shortcut created by the installer
actually executes this:

C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k get_iplayer.cmd --search dontshowanymatches 
 get_iplayer.cmd --help


i.e. calls the get_iplayer.cmd, located inside the installation directory:

@echo off
perl.exe get_iplayer.pl %*

perl.exe and the main perl script (get_iplayer.pl)
reside inside the same installation directory.

The batch file refreshes the tv cache, if it's more than 4h old,
then proceeds to display basic help.
Working directory is (win32):

C:\Program Files\get_iplayer

then I'm ready to type/paste my commands!

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Query re BBC On Demand Radio

2015-02-17 Thread Prisca


I don't fully understand how get_iplayer works, even though I have 
managed to learn how to use it - mostly.


I do, however, have a question as to what is likely to happen at the end 
of February when the WMA/AAC streams for on demand radio are turned off. 
Will this have any impact on get_iplayer? I've never really figured out 
where the streams I download actually come from.


Sorry to sound dense, but some of us only manage to get things working 
by trial and error and keeping our fingers crossed. A very simple 
explanation would be much appreciated.


Thanks to everyone who is responsible for get_iplayer. It really is a 
very useful program to have found since the demise of Radio Downloader.


Thanks
Prisca



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Re: access permissions. at get_iplayer.cgi line 323

2015-02-17 Thread CJB
I forget why but it was something to do with always having to log in
as admin to install apps.or move files around - or whatever - but
since I'm the only one using my computers I always set ACS to zero
i.e. off. Cured most bugs. Chris B.

On 17/02/2015, Hugh Reynolds hugh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Turns out that something in Windows update may have changed how the
 PVR runs in Windows.

 If I set the User Account Control Setting to the minimum the PVR works
 fine.  There are 4 levels of control.  Mine are usually left at the
 default.

 I guess I'm not the only one who will stumble over this

 (Sorry if this top-posts or breaks some other rule)

 Hugh

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RE: BBC Dropping MP3 and garbled downloads ....

2015-02-17 Thread C E Macfarlane
(Follow-up to group, omitted accidentally from original reply)

Yes, plenty, but I'm listening through a backlog at the moment, so I can't
really comment on current downloads.

You should be made aware that this has always been an ongoing problem even
with mp3 downloads  -  it has always come and gone over a period of minutes,
hours, or days  -  it's just that the incidence of the problem went up very
dramatically when the changeover to m4a occurred, with at least for a while
seemingly every single program affected.

My guess is that it happens when the servers running the encoding software
start to run out of resources.  The software probably doesn't clear up after
itself and gradually leaks one or more resource types  -  memory, threads,
handles, etc.  Perhaps the new encoding places greater demands on server
resources, hence the dramatic increase in incidence.

www.macfh.co.uk/CEMH.html

UK Residents:

If you feel can possibly support it
please sign the following ePetition
before closing time of 30/03/2015 23:59:-

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/71556


 -Original Message-
 From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org]On
 Behalf Of Christopher Woods
 Sent: 17 February 2015 19:16
 To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
 Subject: Re: BBC Dropping MP3 and garbled downloads 


 Has anyone else observed any glitchy/skippy/odd on-demand files since
 my last reply to the thread? Trying to get a large enough
 sample set, I
 can't possibly listen to everything... ;-)

 Chris

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Re: Query re BBC On Demand Radio

2015-02-17 Thread Prisca
Thanks, I appreciate that. My query really related to how/where 
get_iplayer obtained the radio links and whether it would still be able 
to download radio programs after the switch off.


Thanks
Prisca

On 17/02/2015 18:20, Owen Smith wrote:

No-one knows what is going to happen. For Listen Again it's not clear whether 
just WMA is being switched off, or all streams in the current format but AAC 
over HLS will become available, or whether the entire thing will be reduced to 
just MP3 podcasts ie. it isn't a complete Listen Again system.



On 17 Feb 2015, at 15:53, Prisca pri...@leonin.co.uk wrote:


I don't fully understand how get_iplayer works, even though I have managed to 
learn how to use it - mostly.

I do, however, have a question as to what is likely to happen at the end of 
February when the WMA/AAC streams for on demand radio are turned off. Will this 
have any impact on get_iplayer? I've never really figured out where the streams 
I download actually come from.

Sorry to sound dense, but some of us only manage to get things working by trial 
and error and keeping our fingers crossed. A very simple explanation would be 
much appreciated.

Thanks to everyone who is responsible for get_iplayer. It really is a very 
useful program to have found since the demise of Radio Downloader.

Thanks
Prisca




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Re: BBC Dropping MP3 and garbled downloads ....

2015-02-17 Thread Christopher Woods
Has anyone else observed any glitchy/skippy/odd on-demand files since 
my last reply to the thread? Trying to get a large enough sample set, I 
can't possibly listen to everything... ;-)


Chris

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Re: Query re BBC On Demand Radio

2015-02-17 Thread Owen Smith
No-one knows what is going to happen. For Listen Again it's not clear whether 
just WMA is being switched off, or all streams in the current format but AAC 
over HLS will become available, or whether the entire thing will be reduced to 
just MP3 podcasts ie. it isn't a complete Listen Again system.

-- 
Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net
Cambridge, UK

On 17 Feb 2015, at 15:53, Prisca pri...@leonin.co.uk wrote:

 
 I don't fully understand how get_iplayer works, even though I have managed to 
 learn how to use it - mostly.
 
 I do, however, have a question as to what is likely to happen at the end of 
 February when the WMA/AAC streams for on demand radio are turned off. Will 
 this have any impact on get_iplayer? I've never really figured out where the 
 streams I download actually come from.
 
 Sorry to sound dense, but some of us only manage to get things working by 
 trial and error and keeping our fingers crossed. A very simple explanation 
 would be much appreciated.
 
 Thanks to everyone who is responsible for get_iplayer. It really is a very 
 useful program to have found since the demise of Radio Downloader.
 
 Thanks
 Prisca
 
 
 
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Re: BBC Dropping MP3 and garbled downloads ....

2015-02-17 Thread roadcone

On 17/02/15 19:15, Christopher Woods wrote:

Has anyone else observed any glitchy/skippy/odd on-demand files since my
last reply to the thread? Trying to get a large enough sample set, I
can't possibly listen to everything... ;-)

Chris

For many months, probably since the middle of last year, I have noticed 
this effect on random programs downloaded in UK as aacstd files. Some 
way in, perhaps 15/20 minutes, the sound sounds as though the sound has 
been momentarily interrupted. The interruptions get longer and increase 
in frequency then reduce. The whole thing lasts less than a minute and I 
don't recall two such instances in one program.


Problem is ... I don't listen to programs in order so I am not sure 
whether it was a problem which has now ended or whether it is still 
happening.


Clive


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Re: BBC Dropping MP3 and garbled downloads ....

2015-02-17 Thread Christopher Woods
Very curious... I've not noticed that myself, at least since (and this is a 
fair while ago) I stopped downloading things with a very old version which 
was stalling out mid download and causing a break in the file which was 
audible on playback. I've not actually used GiP for the past five or six 
months. (!)


For a while, the audio has been concurrently encoded for multiple formats 
using cloud computing so there's no shortage of physical power available. 
However that's not to say that there is a bug somewhere causing problems.


If anyone could provide PIDs, if they come across a programme with 
glitching (like the RNG episode), that'd be incredibly useful.


(I've been unscientifically listening to a handful of things today and I'm 
beginning to think there's a separate, low level problem with some or all 
of the Audio Factory live streams which may - or may not - also be audible 
in the on-demand versions, but I need to do lots more sleuthing to ensure 
it's not just my brain tricking me)


Thanks
Chris


On 17 February 2015 20:14:20 roadcone roadc...@gmx.com wrote:


On 17/02/15 19:15, Christopher Woods wrote:
 Has anyone else observed any glitchy/skippy/odd on-demand files since my
 last reply to the thread? Trying to get a large enough sample set, I
 can't possibly listen to everything... ;-)

 Chris

For many months, probably since the middle of last year, I have noticed
this effect on random programs downloaded in UK as aacstd files. Some
way in, perhaps 15/20 minutes, the sound sounds as though the sound has
been momentarily interrupted. The interruptions get longer and increase
in frequency then reduce. The whole thing lasts less than a minute and I
don't recall two such instances in one program.

Problem is ... I don't listen to programs in order so I am not sure
whether it was a problem which has now ended or whether it is still
happening.

Clive


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Re: Server/Workstation PVR install

2015-02-17 Thread Alex
As it says on the tin: the WebPVR is inherently insecure.

So, three options:

a) don't.

b) set up a VPN with authentication to ensure your network is secure
(i.e. only authorised people can get in, and the entire channel is
encrypted)

c) set up a reverse proxy with authentication to ensure that accessing
the PVR is restricted to people who are 'trusted'

You'll also need to set up a NAT rule on your firewall to allow
traffic to hit tcp/1935 from the outside - though I'd use port
translation too - you'll need to tweak this if you'll be using a
reverse proxy too.

-- 
Al.

On 17 February 2015 at 00:05, Topsy to...@tesco.net wrote:
 I had fun at the weekend when I finally installed the Web PVR having been
 used to the CLI implementation of G_iP.

 Firstly, my config is that I d/l and store any media files on a server
 called 'myth' that sits under the telly in the lounge. This server runs
 Fedora 21, with httpd installed and has a fqdn so is accessible from the
 'net. It's main task is to monitor a pair of freeview receivers and record
 off air progs that aren't on a BBC channel. I normally access it using ssh
 and sftp from one of my laptops or tablets and can stream content into VLC
 with ease, even away from home.

 Normally I do not log directly in to myth and just leave it from boot
 untouched (reboot once a week or longer) so any daemon has to be run as root
 as part of the OS start and can't be run in a user shell. I might however
 run the CLI install as a user (or root) via ssh and would want access to the
 same download history,

 So, after a few fits, starts and too many reboots I have the PVR running
 monitoring the fixed LAN address not localhost to enable remote access. I'm
 not sure if using the domain name would work? The G-iP config files are
 stored in shared folder with symbolic links to the normal ~/.get_iplayer
 folder.

 On my laptop, or tablet, I can therefore access the server's IP address
 (port 1935) and access the PVR. All seems to be running okay and downloads
 are going to the correct folder on a 3TB drive.

 So, apart from trying the domain name method, for full external access, is
 there anything else I could do? My thanks, as ever, to the developers of
 this awesome package.

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RE: Upgrading to 2.91 breaks windows installation

2015-02-17 Thread Charlie Heard
Thanks for that. I was looking for an entry pointing to the wrong directory, 
rather than adding an option. Fixed it after your prompting and looking through 
the GitHub wiki, once I realised that the directory entries shouldn't be 
enclosed in quotes. 

Not sure why it needed this doing during this update as it's worked fine 
before, but it's sorted now, so thanks again. 

C

On Mon Feb 16 2015 at 09:09:50 Dave Liquorice allso...@howhill.com wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 08:54:09 -, Charlie Heard wrote:

 Just bumping this, as it's still broken. How can I force get_iplayer or
 the PVR to download to the correct directory automatically without having
 to manually use the --output option?

Have you tried putting the relevant line(s) in the options file?

output path_to_TV_downloads
outputradio path_to_Radio_downloads

I don't use windows so donno if that will help at all with the permissions
problem or where that file is stored on a windows system...

There is away to set options from the get_iplayer command line, have a dig
through the docs.

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access permissions. at get_iplayer.cgi line 323

2015-02-17 Thread Hugh Reynolds
Turns out that something in Windows update may have changed how the
PVR runs in Windows.

If I set the User Account Control Setting to the minimum the PVR works
fine.  There are 4 levels of control.  Mine are usually left at the
default.

I guess I'm not the only one who will stumble over this

(Sorry if this top-posts or breaks some other rule)

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BBC News at One / Ten ?

2015-02-17 Thread Conrad Wood
Hi,

I am unable to find BBC News at One or BBC News at Ten or BBC Weekend
news in the list of programmes.
I find the Asia News, London News, Oxford news and many more, but not
the main ones.

for example:
$ get_iplayer --refresh -l | grep b052fv4s
returns nothing

downloading with pid works just fine, for example:
get_iplayer -g --pid b052fv4s
does download BBC News at Ten

This is on today's git head (master).

Is there anything special about the BBC News?

Conrad


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