Re: Europe
Indeed. Hosting on one's own connection is often impractical. Sites like lowendbox feature deals at pretty bargain basement prices fairly regularly, including services which are ok with OpenVPN use. A friend has one of these just for tunnelling to his dev servers (for work) without getting blocked by a weird corporate firewall setup. Trick is to find a service which gives you an IP geolocated to the Uk, but far less likely to get caught in a dragnet ban than if using commercial VPNs. On 23 December 2018 20:10:00 Dave Widgery wrote: Hi That's fine if you have access to somewhere that has a good enough upload speed to install a server, otherwise it is back to a VPN DNS or Proxy solution's, I have never known Hotspot shield or SmartDNS be unavailable for more than a few days. Dave On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 20:48, Christopher Woods wrote: There's various techniques services can use to detect inconsistencies. Browsers still give a lot away... With your DNS redirection enabled, run the tests on http://ipleak.net and see whether you pass things like the WebRTC IP leak tests. If so, great, but it doesn't guarantee problem free access. Netflix, Amazon and various other services including the BBC gather details of VPN providers and their IP ranges. It's not hard to identify client IPs proxying traffic, so even if you carefully obfuscate your usage you might find VPNed traffic gets blocked in future. Best off running your own Linux VPS on a private IP geolocated to the UK and SSH / VPN through it. :-) On 22 December 2018 22:45:33 Dave Widgery wrote: > I started out using Hotspot shield very successfully for many years, > then had a problem as the BBC managed to block it for a short while, > so started using smart DNS proxy, because I didn't cancel my > subscription on HSS I now pay for both, which still isn't very > expensive but handy if one gets blocked I can use the other. > I don't see much difference in performance between them, but Smart DNS > proxy is a lot more flexible as you only have to change network > settings and do not have to run a client on every machine which is not > always available (unix based systems for example). > > Dave > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 15:28, Paul Thornett wrote: >> >> VPNs are often very slow. Much faster, and a solution that works well >> for me, is something called Smart DNS, which is essentially a >> different set of DNS >> addresses. Both VPNs and DNS redirection will cost you a small amount >> of money - ignore the so-called free offerings, they are usually very >> slow and often not to be trusted. >> >> Regards, >> >> Paul Thornett >> >> Regards, >> >> Paul Thornett >> >> >> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 at 00:33, Chris Marriott wrote: >> > >> > That's the way it's always been. TV programmes are geo-restricted, but radio >> > programmes are not. You need to use a VPN which makes you appear to be in >> > the UK if you want to download TV programmes. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Chris >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: CJB >> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 1:06 PM >> > To: get_iplayer-request >> > Subject: Europe >> > >> > Hi - we were in Budapest recently with a fast wifi connection at the >> > IBIS hotel!!! >> > >> > I tried the GiP PVR and did a cache refresh quickly and easily both >> > for Radio & T.V. >> > >> > Then I ran the PVR list and this too went OK. For example it >> > downloaded the latest 'Beyond Our Ken' for 16-12-2018 which ended up >> > as: >> > >> > Beyond_Our_Ken_-_From_4_6_1959_m0001k9d_original.m4a >> > >> > File size : 69.1 MiB >> > Duration : 30 min 4 s >> > Overall bit rate mode : Variable >> > Overall bit rate : 322 kb/s >> > >> > Just the same as in the UK. >> > >> > BUT ... no t.v. downloads. >> > >> > CJB >> > >> > ___ >> > get_iplayer mailing list >> > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > get_iplayer mailing list >> > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer >> >> ___ >> get_iplayer mailing list >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list
Re: Europe
Hi That's fine if you have access to somewhere that has a good enough upload speed to install a server, otherwise it is back to a VPN DNS or Proxy solution's, I have never known Hotspot shield or SmartDNS be unavailable for more than a few days. Dave On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 20:48, Christopher Woods wrote: > > There's various techniques services can use to detect inconsistencies. > Browsers still give a lot away... > > With your DNS redirection enabled, run the tests on http://ipleak.net and > see whether you pass things like the WebRTC IP leak tests. If so, great, > but it doesn't guarantee problem free access. > > Netflix, Amazon and various other services including the BBC gather details > of VPN providers and their IP ranges. It's not hard to identify client IPs > proxying traffic, so even if you carefully obfuscate your usage you might > find VPNed traffic gets blocked in future. > > Best off running your own Linux VPS on a private IP geolocated to the UK > and SSH / VPN through it. :-) > > On 22 December 2018 22:45:33 Dave Widgery wrote: > > > I started out using Hotspot shield very successfully for many years, > > then had a problem as the BBC managed to block it for a short while, > > so started using smart DNS proxy, because I didn't cancel my > > subscription on HSS I now pay for both, which still isn't very > > expensive but handy if one gets blocked I can use the other. > > I don't see much difference in performance between them, but Smart DNS > > proxy is a lot more flexible as you only have to change network > > settings and do not have to run a client on every machine which is not > > always available (unix based systems for example). > > > > Dave > > > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 15:28, Paul Thornett wrote: > >> > >> VPNs are often very slow. Much faster, and a solution that works well > >> for me, is something called Smart DNS, which is essentially a > >> different set of DNS > >> addresses. Both VPNs and DNS redirection will cost you a small amount > >> of money - ignore the so-called free offerings, they are usually very > >> slow and often not to be trusted. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Paul Thornett > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Paul Thornett > >> > >> > >> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 at 00:33, Chris Marriott wrote: > >> > > >> > That's the way it's always been. TV programmes are geo-restricted, but > >> > radio > >> > programmes are not. You need to use a VPN which makes you appear to be in > >> > the UK if you want to download TV programmes. > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > > >> > Chris > >> > > >> > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: CJB > >> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 1:06 PM > >> > To: get_iplayer-request > >> > Subject: Europe > >> > > >> > Hi - we were in Budapest recently with a fast wifi connection at the > >> > IBIS hotel!!! > >> > > >> > I tried the GiP PVR and did a cache refresh quickly and easily both > >> > for Radio & T.V. > >> > > >> > Then I ran the PVR list and this too went OK. For example it > >> > downloaded the latest 'Beyond Our Ken' for 16-12-2018 which ended up > >> > as: > >> > > >> > Beyond_Our_Ken_-_From_4_6_1959_m0001k9d_original.m4a > >> > > >> > File size : 69.1 MiB > >> > Duration : 30 min 4 s > >> > Overall bit rate mode : Variable > >> > Overall bit rate : 322 kb/s > >> > > >> > Just the same as in the UK. > >> > > >> > BUT ... no t.v. downloads. > >> > > >> > CJB > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > get_iplayer mailing list > >> > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > >> > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > >> > > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > get_iplayer mailing list > >> > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > >> > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > >> > >> ___ > >> get_iplayer mailing list > >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > > ___ > > get_iplayer mailing list > > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Europe
There's various techniques services can use to detect inconsistencies. Browsers still give a lot away... With your DNS redirection enabled, run the tests on http://ipleak.net and see whether you pass things like the WebRTC IP leak tests. If so, great, but it doesn't guarantee problem free access. Netflix, Amazon and various other services including the BBC gather details of VPN providers and their IP ranges. It's not hard to identify client IPs proxying traffic, so even if you carefully obfuscate your usage you might find VPNed traffic gets blocked in future. Best off running your own Linux VPS on a private IP geolocated to the UK and SSH / VPN through it. :-) On 22 December 2018 22:45:33 Dave Widgery wrote: I started out using Hotspot shield very successfully for many years, then had a problem as the BBC managed to block it for a short while, so started using smart DNS proxy, because I didn't cancel my subscription on HSS I now pay for both, which still isn't very expensive but handy if one gets blocked I can use the other. I don't see much difference in performance between them, but Smart DNS proxy is a lot more flexible as you only have to change network settings and do not have to run a client on every machine which is not always available (unix based systems for example). Dave On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 15:28, Paul Thornett wrote: VPNs are often very slow. Much faster, and a solution that works well for me, is something called Smart DNS, which is essentially a different set of DNS addresses. Both VPNs and DNS redirection will cost you a small amount of money - ignore the so-called free offerings, they are usually very slow and often not to be trusted. Regards, Paul Thornett Regards, Paul Thornett On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 at 00:33, Chris Marriott wrote: > > That's the way it's always been. TV programmes are geo-restricted, but radio > programmes are not. You need to use a VPN which makes you appear to be in > the UK if you want to download TV programmes. > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > -Original Message- > From: CJB > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 1:06 PM > To: get_iplayer-request > Subject: Europe > > Hi - we were in Budapest recently with a fast wifi connection at the > IBIS hotel!!! > > I tried the GiP PVR and did a cache refresh quickly and easily both > for Radio & T.V. > > Then I ran the PVR list and this too went OK. For example it > downloaded the latest 'Beyond Our Ken' for 16-12-2018 which ended up > as: > > Beyond_Our_Ken_-_From_4_6_1959_m0001k9d_original.m4a > > File size : 69.1 MiB > Duration : 30 min 4 s > Overall bit rate mode : Variable > Overall bit rate : 322 kb/s > > Just the same as in the UK. > > BUT ... no t.v. downloads. > > CJB > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
