Re: Downloading Subtitles

2018-10-07 Thread Graham Temple
I've often wondered that

Graham Temple
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  Original Message  
From: chrisjbr...@gmail.com
Sent: 8 October 2018 00:05
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Downloading Subtitles

Please - is there a way of downloading subtitles after the respective
video file has been downloaded? The latter file is a large one and I
don't wont to download it again. But trying to watch the video the
sound is not clear. The pid is b0bkvw2l BTW. Many thanks. Chris B.

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RE: parser error

2017-12-12 Thread Graham Temple Personal
Correction, the SCD and Ronny Chieng ones now download, but not RV. It is
still annoying to keep checking back.

-Original Message-
From: Graham Temple Personal [mailto:graham.j.tem...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 December 2017 12:07
To: 'RS'; get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: RE: parser error

There are regular failures now of delivery of subtitles files. It starts to
download them but they never convert to SRT and just delete. I followed this
thread through but for someone like me who just uses the PVR and settings
within, this is all way over my head to work out other ways of obtaining the
subtitles. 

I am on the latest version.

Recent examples:

The league of gentleman series 1 E4 & E5 Ronny Chieng E7 Strictly Come
Dancing E23 (week 12)

None of them have corrected the output since.

The message on the PVR is: 

INFO: Downloaded: 390.29 MB (00:29:06) @ 37.62 Mb/s (hvfxsd1) [audio+video]
INFO: Converting to MP4
INFO: Tagging MP4
INFO: Downloading subtitles
ERROR: Failed to load subtitles:
:7: parser error : Char 0x0 out of allowed range
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag title line 6
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag metadata line 5
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag head line 3
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag tt line 2
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
INFO: Downloading subtitles
ERROR: Failed to load subtitles:
:7: parser error : Char 0x0 out of allowed range
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag title line 6
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag metadata line 5
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag head line 3
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag tt line 2
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
INFO: Downloading subtitles
ERROR: Failed to load subtitles:
:7: parser error : Char 0x0 out of allowed range
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag title line 6
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag metadata line 5
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag head line 3
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag tt line 2
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
ERROR: Subtitles conversion to SRT failed
ERROR: Use --subtitles-only to re-download Recording complete

It is still a small % but frequent enough to be annoying if you rely on
subtitles to fully follow the speech. 

GT

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of RS
Sent: 10 November 2017 11:44
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: parser error

From: Vangelis forthnet
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 6:59 PM

>by opening
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/subtitles/ng/modav/bUnknown-5df25dc8-d38f-
>43e5-93a2-38b6c778f852_b09c79wx_1509625417009.xml
>one can read:

> Created on 2/11/2017 at 12:23:23

>so this was just fixed at noon yesterday (most recent Suspicion repeat 
>aired on 22/10/2017@13:30; so it took them eleven days to identify and 
>remedy the problem)...
>I have no doubt an iPlayer user did alert them; however, this is not 
>mentioned as a "Recently Fixed Fault" at:
>https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/programme-availability/programme-iss
>ues

There is a report in the forum
https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?tid=1587
of a subtitle file with 3 NULs in  in lines 7 and 10.  The
PID is b0074513 and the file is
http://vod-sub-uk-live.bbcfmt.hs.llnwd.net/iplayer/subtitles/ng/modav/bUnkno
wn-6dc3f082-7f2f-4410-818e-4e86a3e2736f_b000tm9z_1509582051026.xml

It seems the person reporting it is outside the UK, so dinky has said he or
she can't investigate, although a link to an online subtitles editor has
been given, and the next release will fail more gracefully.

If there are only one or two a month it is not a serious problem, especially
if they

RE: parser error

2017-12-12 Thread Graham Temple Personal
There are regular failures now of delivery of subtitles files. It starts to
download them but they never convert to SRT and just delete. I followed this
thread through but for someone like me who just uses the PVR and settings
within, this is all way over my head to work out other ways of obtaining the
subtitles. 

I am on the latest version.

Recent examples:

The league of gentleman series 1 E4 & E5
Ronny Chieng E7
Strictly Come Dancing E23 (week 12)

None of them have corrected the output since.

The message on the PVR is: 

INFO: Downloaded: 390.29 MB (00:29:06) @ 37.62 Mb/s (hvfxsd1) [audio+video]
INFO: Converting to MP4
INFO: Tagging MP4
INFO: Downloading subtitles
ERROR: Failed to load subtitles:
:7: parser error : Char 0x0 out of allowed range
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag title line 6
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag metadata line 5
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag head line 3
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag tt line 2
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
INFO: Downloading subtitles
ERROR: Failed to load subtitles:
:7: parser error : Char 0x0 out of allowed range
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag title line 6
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag metadata line 5
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag head line 3
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag tt line 2
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
INFO: Downloading subtitles
ERROR: Failed to load subtitles:
:7: parser error : Char 0x0 out of allowed range
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag title line 6
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag metadata line 5
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag head line 3
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
:7: parser error : Premature end of data in tag tt line 2
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN 4 - BD313601
^
ERROR: Subtitles conversion to SRT failed
ERROR: Use --subtitles-only to re-download
Recording complete

It is still a small % but frequent enough to be annoying if you rely on
subtitles to fully follow the speech. 

GT

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of RS
Sent: 10 November 2017 11:44
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: parser error

From: Vangelis forthnet
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 6:59 PM

>by opening
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/subtitles/ng/modav/bUnknown-5df25dc8-d38f-
>43e5-93a2-38b6c778f852_b09c79wx_1509625417009.xml
>one can read:

> Created on 2/11/2017 at 12:23:23

>so this was just fixed at noon yesterday (most recent Suspicion repeat 
>aired on 22/10/2017@13:30; so it took them eleven days to identify and 
>remedy the problem)...
>I have no doubt an iPlayer user did alert them; however, this is not 
>mentioned as a "Recently Fixed Fault" at:
>https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/programme-availability/programme-iss
>ues

There is a report in the forum
https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?tid=1587
of a subtitle file with 3 NULs in  in lines 7 and 10.  The
PID is b0074513 and the file is
http://vod-sub-uk-live.bbcfmt.hs.llnwd.net/iplayer/subtitles/ng/modav/bUnkno
wn-6dc3f082-7f2f-4410-818e-4e86a3e2736f_b000tm9z_1509582051026.xml

It seems the person reporting it is outside the UK, so dinky has said he or
she can't investigate, although a link to an online subtitles editor has
been given, and the next release will fail more gracefully.

If there are only one or two a month it is not a serious problem, especially
if they do get corrected eventually.

Best wishes
Richard 



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RE: Recordings folder changed

2017-10-30 Thread Graham Temple Personal
The /'s instead of the \'s you mean?

I did that because of something I read in the help documentation, but it
obviously wasn't the correct thing to do because I have followed your advice
reversed the slashes and it now works beautifully!

Another one solved - sorry to be so thick. I presume the direction of the
slashes is dependent on the type of operating system is it?

Many thanks Timothy.

GT

-Original Message-
From: Timothy [mailto:tmthywy...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 October 2017 18:15
To: Graham Temple Personal
Subject: Re: Recordings folder changed

On Monday, October 30, 2017 10:22 AM, "Graham Temple Personal"
<graham.j.tem...@gmail.com> wrote:
[SNIP]
> So if I add get_iplayer --prefs-add --output 
> "C:/Users/graham.temple/Desktop/New folder/" which I believe is the 
> correct command I then get the following error message if I try and 
> record anything:

Is there a reason why you're not using this line in your options file:
output C:\Users\graham.temple\Desktop\New folder After all, it does look
like you're on Windows, and should be using Windows path conventions.
Invoking:
> get_iplayer --prefs-add --output "C:\Users\graham.temple\Desktop\New
folder"
should work also.

Timothy


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RE: Recordings folder changed

2017-10-30 Thread Graham Temple Personal
Thanks Chris, but that only brings back the same results.

In that options file there is the single text line - output
/Users/graham.temple/Desktop/New folder/ but that saves the recordings to
the U drive. If I amend it to read - output
/C:/Users/graham.temple/Desktop/New folder/ then I again get the error
message "ERROR: Could not create dir 'U:\C:\Users\graham.temple\Desktop\New
folder': mkdir U:\C:\: Invalid argument; The filename, directory name, or
volume label syntax is incorrect at C:\Program Files
(x86)\get_iplayer\get_iplayer.pl line 3075." 

Why is get_iplayer fixated on the U drive? It never used to mind the
recordings folder being on the C: drive and anyway C: is where the
.get_iplayer folder is stored. 

I'm baffled.

Regards

Graham

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of Chris Marriott
Sent: 30 October 2017 14:29
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Recordings folder changed

Hi Graham,

Navigate to the folder "C:\Users\XXX\.get_iplayer", where "XXX" is your
username, and edit the file "options". That's where the output folder is
stored. You'll need to run "Notepad" with admin rights in order to edit it. 
That should fix it.

Cheers,

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Graham Temple Personal
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 2:22 PM
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Recordings folder changed

I have just installed 3.06 (thanks again to dinky and all those who keep
this brilliant tool working). In the process it has reset the output folder
to the default "iPlayer Recordings" located on my desktop. I don't recall
this happening before on updates, but never mind. I have followed up the
various help sections to reset the path and I know the path I need is:
C:\Users\graham.temple\Desktop\New folder and if I paste this into the
"Override Recordings Folder" on the PVR it works just fine, but I have a
problem if I try and change the preferences on get_iplayer itself as before
I can type anything in the get_iplayer command box the text U:\> is always
showing first. So if I add get_iplayer --prefs-add --output
"C:/Users/graham.temple/Desktop/New folder/" which I believe is the correct
command I then get the following error message if I try and record anything:

ERROR: Could not create dir 'U:\C:\Users\graham.temple\Desktop\New folder':
mkdir U:\C:\: Invalid argument; The filename, directory name, or volume
label syntax is incorrect at C:\Program Files
(x86)\get_iplayer\get_iplayer.pl line 3075.

The trouble is I cannot delete the U:\> to replace it with C:\> followed by
get_iplayer --prefs-add --output "/Users/graham.temple/Desktop/New folder/"
which would I believe provide the correct result.

I do have a U drive and if I just add get_iplayer --prefs-add --output
"/Users/graham.temple/Desktop/New folder/" in front of the U:\> I get a new
folder tree created on the U drive which I don't want at all.

Now I know I have a solution by using the PVR and the Override Recordings
Folder box, but I would really have liked to get it right by adding the
correct prefs-add. No doubt some of you will notice that my desired output
folder is in the same location as the default one, just differently named
(the very original "New Folder") but a) with the messing about the default
no longer works and b) I do have a reason however small for the folder of my
choice.

Any ideas you wonderful people?

Regards

Graham




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Recordings folder changed

2017-10-30 Thread Graham Temple Personal
I have just installed 3.06 (thanks again to dinky and all those who keep
this brilliant tool working). In the process it has reset the output folder
to the default "iPlayer Recordings" located on my desktop. I don't recall
this happening before on updates, but never mind. I have followed up the
various help sections to reset the path and I know the path I need is:
C:\Users\graham.temple\Desktop\New folder and if I paste this into the
"Override Recordings Folder" on the PVR it works just fine, but I have a
problem if I try and change the preferences on get_iplayer itself as before
I can type anything in the get_iplayer command box the text U:\> is always
showing first. So if I add get_iplayer --prefs-add --output
"C:/Users/graham.temple/Desktop/New folder/" which I believe is the correct
command I then get the following error message if I try and record anything:

ERROR: Could not create dir 'U:\C:\Users\graham.temple\Desktop\New folder':
mkdir U:\C:\: Invalid argument; The filename, directory name, or volume
label syntax is incorrect at C:\Program Files
(x86)\get_iplayer\get_iplayer.pl line 3075.

The trouble is I cannot delete the U:\> to replace it with C:\> followed by
get_iplayer --prefs-add --output "/Users/graham.temple/Desktop/New folder/"
which would I believe provide the correct result.

I do have a U drive and if I just add get_iplayer --prefs-add --output
"/Users/graham.temple/Desktop/New folder/" in front of the U:\> I get a new
folder tree created on the U drive which I don't want at all.

Now I know I have a solution by using the PVR and the Override Recordings
Folder box, but I would really have liked to get it right by adding the
correct prefs-add. No doubt some of you will notice that my desired output
folder is in the same location as the default one, just differently named
(the very original "New Folder") but a) with the messing about the default
no longer works and b) I do have a reason however small for the folder of my
choice.

Any ideas you wonderful people?

Regards

Graham




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RE: A bug in get_iplayer-3.01?

2017-07-06 Thread Graham Temple Personal
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Ralph Corderoy [mailto:ra...@inputplus.co.uk] 
Sent: 06 July 2017 22:58
To: Graham Temple
Cc: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: A bug in get_iplayer-3.01?

Hi Graham,

> I have received nothing from the list since 18/6.  Can I be added back 
> on to the mailing list please?

AFAIK you're still on it, and there hasn't been anything on the mailing list 
since then.  See http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer and 
http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2017-June/date.html

Cheers, Ralph.


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RE: A bug in get_iplayer-3.01?

2017-07-06 Thread Graham Temple Personal
I have received nothing from the list since 18/6.  Can I be added back on to
the mailing list please?

Regards

Graham Temple

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of Ralph Corderoy
Sent: 18 June 2017 12:25
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: A bug in get_iplayer-3.01?

Hi Richard,

> I was frantically reading about the scope of variables.  My background 
> is Algol 60 and PLI where a block is a compound statement with local 
> declarations.  I gather in Perl it's the other way round.

No, I think it's the same as those language, C.  Running

$n = 1;

sub foo {
print "b $n\n";
my $n = 2;
print "c $n\n";
for (my $i = 0; $i < 2; $i++) {
print "d $n\n";
if ($i == 0) {
my $n = 3; # Never printed.
} else {
$n = 4; # No my.
}
print "e $n\n";
}
print "f $n\n";
}

print "a $n\n";
foo;
print "g $n\n";

gives

a 1
b 1
c 2
d 2
e 2
d 2
e 4
f 4
g 1

> I hear what you say about C++, but I find it easier than Python.

If that's because you like its types-defined-at-compile-time nature then Go
will appeal.

func main() {
type (
foo int
bar int
)
var (
f foo
b bar
)
f = 42
b = f
}

"cannot use f (type foo) as type bar in assignment".

--
Cheers, Ralph.
https://plus.google.com/+RalphCorderoy

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Re: bigger files

2017-06-03 Thread Graham Temple
This doesnt seem to have been circulated is there something wrong with it?


  Original Message  
From: graham.j.tem...@gmail.com
Sent: 2 June 2017 16:20
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: bigger files

I use the PVR for all my downloads.  Since the 3. series versions all my
downloads are about 50% bigger. An hour used to be typically 660mb and is
now over 1gb. In the recording settings my programme version is set to
default and my Recording Modes is blank as previously.  Any ideas?  I'm
gobbling hard drive.

GT

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bigger files

2017-06-02 Thread Graham Temple Personal
I use the PVR for all my downloads.  Since the 3. series versions all my
downloads are about 50% bigger. An hour used to be typically 660mb and is
now over 1gb. In the recording settings my programme version is set to
default and my Recording Modes is blank as previously.  Any ideas?  I'm
gobbling hard drive.

GT


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RE: get_iplayer data sources restored

2017-03-16 Thread Graham Temple (gmail)
Wow, wow and double wow.  Spot on Mark.

Dumped all the cache files and re-opened get_iplayer and boom working
perfectly.

What a strange coincidence that it corrupted hard on the heels of the data
sources problem.?  Computers!  Don't you just love em and hate em.

Many thanks indeed.

Graham

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of Mark Carroll
Sent: 16 March 2017 12:57
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: get_iplayer data sources restored

On 16 Mar 2017, Graham Temple wrote:

> What is this "can't call method "new" on an undefined value at 
> get_iplayer.pl line 1829" relating to?

Could it be related to the issue at
https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/thread-214.html
regarding corrupted cache files?

(I really don't know, but might be worth a try.)

-- Mark

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RE: get_iplayer data sources restored

2017-03-16 Thread Graham Temple (gmail)
Yes, it ran fine for a bit but now I am getting a new message every time I
try and do anything.

No schedules again and if you run the PVR:

Running PVR Searches:
_1066_A_Year_to_Conquer_England_Series_1_name_tv
Can't call method "new" on an undefined value at get_iplayer.pl line 1829.
PVR Run complete

Or if trying a record using the URL in the PVR

Recording The Following Programmes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04qw7rz/clique-episode-2 - -
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04qw7rz/clique-episode-2)

Can't call method "new" on an undefined value at get_iplayer.pl line 1829.
Recording complete

What is this "can't call method "new" on an undefined value at
get_iplayer.pl line 1829" relating to?

I admit I am still on 2.94 because it has continued to do everything I need
until now (apart from the recent problem affecting everyone).  If upgrading
would cure it I can do, but it did work fine again this morning to start
with.

Many thanks

Graham

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of Vangelis forthnet
Sent: 15 March 2017 20:46
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: get_iplayer data sources restored

On Wed Mar 15 21:01:49 GMT 2017, d.lake at surrey.ac.uk wrote: 

> All that had happened was it had gone bugger-up for a few days...
> We can all stop panicking now then :-)

... I certainly don't want to burst your bubble, but if the notice shown
when the feeds were down is to be taken seriously:

>> In May 2017, regrettably, this system will permanently cease 
>> producing XML and rdf outputs.

then "panic" will resume in 6 weeks' time for sure...

Cheers

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RE: get_iplayer data sources restored

2017-03-16 Thread Graham Temple (gmail)
Yes, it ran fine for a bit but now I am getting a new message every time I
try and do anything.

No schedules again and if you run the PVR:

Running PVR Searches:
_1066_A_Year_to_Conquer_England_Series_1_name_tv
Can't call method "new" on an undefined value at get_iplayer.pl line 1829.
PVR Run complete

Or if trying a record using the URL in the PVR

Recording The Following Programmes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04qw7rz/clique-episode-2 - -
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04qw7rz/clique-episode-2)

Can't call method "new" on an undefined value at get_iplayer.pl line 1829.
Recording complete

What is this "can't call method "new" on an undefined value at
get_iplayer.pl line 1829" relating to?

I admit I am still on 2.94 because it has continued to do everything I need
until now (apart from the recent problem affecting everyone).  If upgrading
would cure it I can do, but it did work fine again this morning to start
with.

Many thanks

Graham


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Seems the schedule feeds are back up.

https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/thread-1209.html

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RE: 1280x720 25fps

2017-03-13 Thread Graham Temple (gmail)
I seem to have got deleted from the list as I have received no mail from the
list for the last 10 days.  As I am having problems with get iplayer tonight
I would appreciate being re-included.

Regards

Graham Temple

+44 1502 533433
+44 7508 578446

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Sent: 04 March 2017 22:01
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Subject: Re: 1280x720 25fps

On Sat Mar 4 09:10:58 GMT 2017, cc wrote:

> to find  the 1280x720 25fps format
> for  the  progs i wanted to download
> has it been discontinued?

Not that I see; the BBC continue to provide the 720p25 encode via the legacy
RTMP streams (--tvmode=flashhd) and the legacy AppleHLS streams
(--tvmode=hlshd).
They have publicly announced many months ago that the RTMP streams are to be
completely phased out, though this promise hasn't yet materialised; next
version of GiP, however, will have its RTMP support removed, even if the BBC
continues to offer RTMP  streams for a while longer...

No word was given on the eventual removal of the legacy (the
non-Video-Factory ones) AppleHLS streams, I'd hazard a guess and say they'll
be the next to go, leaving only the Video Factory AdobeHDS (not supported by
GiP), AppleHLS and MPEG-DASH streams; with the demise of the Flash plugin in
modern browsers, I see a near future where only (VF) AppleHLS and MPEG-DASH
streams are employed by the iPlayer Service...

> using get_iplayer xxx --info I have not been [un]able

I just ran

perl get_iplayer-299.pl --pid=b008lyr3 -i | FindStr modes

(custom windows installation) and got:

modes:  original: 
dvfhd1,dvfhd2,dvfhd3,dvfhd4,dvfsd1,dvfsd2,dvfsd3,dvfsd
4,dvfxsd1,dvfxsd2,dvfxsd3,dvfxsd4,dvfhigh1,dvfhigh2,dvfxhigh1,dvfxhigh2,dvfx
high
3,dvfxhigh4,dvflow1,dvflow2,dvflow3,dvflow4,flashhd1,flashvhigh1,flashvhigh2
,fla
shstd1,flashstd2,flashxstd1,flashxstd2,hlshd1,hlsvhigh1,hlsstd1,hlsxstd1,hvf
hd1,
hvfhd2,hvfsd1,hvfsd2,hvfxsd1,hvfxsd2,hvfhigh1,hvfhigh2,hvfxhigh1,hvfxhigh2,h
vflo
w1,hvflow2,subtitles1

Both "flashhd1" and "hlshd1" are present inside available modes. Comparing
my result to yours, one can see that:
1. You are missing the DASH tvmodes [dvf(hd|sd|xsd|xhigh|low)] over HTTPS,
i.e. you are only getting 2 (instead of 4) "CDN" variants for each dvf
quality; NB there really only exist 2, but the Beeb provides the same 2 both
over plain HTTP and secure HTTPS protocols...
2. You are missing all the "hls" tvmodes, including the hlshd1 one you're
after...

My gut feeling is this is due to your internet connection - it appears you
are accessing the service from France (or I might be wrong and you're only
using an e-mail registered to a French ISP). Try to change your DNS servers,
if that's the reason why the hls modes (hostname="cp401489-vh.akamaihd.net")
are not correctly resolved.
If you are employing some other means to access the iPlayer service, then
most probably your SmartDNS, HTTP proxy, VPN etc. are to blame for your
predicament - not a GiP issue in itself...
I am afraid my hands are tied up; providing further assistance for non-UK TV
access is frowned upon here (especially since the law changed back in
September) and had you posted in the forums (where the look up members' IP
addresses) you would have got yourself a locked thread...

Regards. 


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RE: Should get_iplayer work on windows 10?

2016-03-19 Thread Graham Temple (gmail)
I think so but even a "new" record doesn't work so don't think it can be an
options mismatch on PVR records.  I will transfer that file as well and try
again.

GT

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Of Don Grunbaum (Gmail)
Sent: 17 March 2016 22:12
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Should get_iplayer work on windows 10?


- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Temple (gmail)" <graham.j.tem...@gmail.com>
To: "'Don Grunbaum (Gmail)'" <don.grunb...@gmail.com>;
<get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 9:24 PM
Subject: RE: Should get_iplayer work on windows 10?


> Thanks Don
>
> I already tried the CLI command, no avail.
>
> " My guess is that there is something in your options file that 
> doesn't quite match your file/folder structure and that is upsetting 
> the syntax of generated commands."
>
> Could you explain the above a little more for me please?
>
> Regards
>
> GT
>

You said in your original post that you had transferred your history and pvr
files.

Have you also transferred your options file? (from C:\Documents and
Settings\$User$\.get_iplayer). Depending on the contents of your pvr files,
there could be a mis-match between the options file and the pvr files unless
the file/folder structure is identical.

But you say that the CLI also failed, so I don't know if that is the problem
after all.

I did initially have a problem on a new Windows 10 PC, but I uninstalled
from the originally installed account, and re-installed from the account I
had created and all worked fine.

If it's not too problematical, perhaps you could try doing something
similar, test that the "vanilla" install works, then gradually change the
files to the transferred ones.

Does that make sense?

HTH

Don


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RE: Should get_iplayer work on windows 10?

2016-03-19 Thread Graham Temple (gmail)
Hello Vangelis

Thanks for your helpful response.

This was a clean install in fact a new Microsoft Surface Pro supplied with
it already installed (updates run as well).

I use google chrome same as on my windows 7 machine.

I will spend some time with the possible solutions from squarepenguin
tomorrow (out all day today on business - just leaving London to drive 3
hours home now!) but I can tell you I had tried the CLI method already - no
good.  I do believe it is possibly something to do with an internet
protection filtering system installed on the machine but I had the same one
on the old machine (same version - it regularly updates) so it is a bit odd.
In answer to the question " Does
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03kky9f.xml load OK in the browser used for
the WebPVR? The answer is no as the BBC site is blocked (apart from news) by
the web filter but that was also the case on my old laptop and it all worked
fine there.  The working get_iplayer was particularly useful because the
filter blocked direct access or use of bbc's own iplayer.

I will try the permissions checks in the morning.  What parsing and perls
are is a bit beyond me at the moment although I get the drift.  How that
could be cured?

Thanks again.

GT 

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Of Vangelis forthnet
Sent: 17 March 2016 00:36
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Should get_iplayer work on windows 10?

On Wed Mar 16 19:15:34 GMT 2016, Graham Temple wrote:

Hello Graham - I am afraid I can't offer real help, but:

> I have got a new computer and installed get_iplayer

Was this a clean Windows 10 installation or an OS upgrade from
7SP1/8/8.1/8.1u1 ? Is it x86 or x64 architecture?

> So far so good all opens fine (I use the PVR)

Do you use the WebPVR Manager on Edge, Internet Explorer 11 or in some other
browser?

GiP "should" run OK in Win10, but some known "errors"
have been posted in the support forum:

https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/search.php?action=results=4d77ba6e7e4
0d0572faca4c385c0cf0f==desc

... as far as I could tell none matches yours...
Does
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03kky9f.xml
load OK in the browser used for the WebPVR?

Have you tried to download via CLI?

get-iplayer --pid=p03kky9f  --modes=best

> it comes up with a parser error.

This is obviously perl related - a
module responsible for the parsing fails.
It could be a permissions issue - try

https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/thread-662-post-3654.html#pid3654

Do you run GiP from the same user account it was installed with and does
this belong to the Admins Group?
As dinky hinted, some protection software may inhibit one or more DLLs
needed for that failing perl module...

> as my old machine has to be turned in on Friday!

As said, my questions/suggestions are
mainly food-for-thought. You are obviously in a hurry, so I'd urge you to
subscribe and seek further assistance in the forum:

https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/forum-6.html

Dinky (the code maintainer) posts there uniquely, if you are lucky, he could
figure out a solution for you in time...

Best regards 


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RE: Should get_iplayer work on windows 10?

2016-03-18 Thread Graham Temple (gmail)
Thanks Don

I already tried the CLI command, no avail.

" My guess is that there is something in your options file that doesn't 
quite match your file/folder structure and that is upsetting the 
syntax of generated commands."

Could you explain the above a little more for me please?

Regards

GT

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- Original Message - 
From: "Graham Temple (gmail)" <graham.j.tem...@gmail.com>
To: <get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:15 PM
Subject: Should get_iplayer work on windows 10?


>I have got a new computer and installed get_iplayer, transferred over 
>my
> history file, and PVR file. So far so good all opens fine (I use the 
> PVR)
> but whenever I try and record anything it comes up with a parser 
> error.
>

SNIP-

> I would be very glad of some help as my old machine has to be turned 
> in on
> Friday!  I have tried re-installing but to no avail.
>
> Regards
>
> Graham
>

FWIW I have two computers running Windows 10 with GiP working 
successfully.

One is a new machine with a "vanilla" GiP installation, the other is a 
netbook upgraded from Windows 7.

My guess is that there is something in your options file that doesn't 
quite match your file/folder structure and that is upsetting the 
syntax of generated commands.

As Vangelis advised, try running a simple CLI command and work from 
there.

HTH

Don 


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RE: Still No TV Cache Refresh - day 2

2015-07-10 Thread Graham Temple (gmail)
I know it is no comfort, but I use PVR all the time and I am not
experiencing any problems.  On 2.94

GT

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Of CJB
Sent: 10 July 2015 16:45
To: get_iplayer
Subject: Re: Still No TV Cache Refresh - day 2

Again thanks guys.

And thank you for the suggestions - whilst the Windows PVR doesn't seem to
refresh the TV cache - I've just tried the command line and got loads (100s)
of new listings including about 50 for Wimbledon.

Seems like the PVR Refresh Cache is broken for tv - for me anyway.

Strange that Radio is fine for both PVR and command line!!

I don't think that output of TV lists was suppressed with 2.93/4.
Everything was working fine until a few days ago - I was getting listings of
both TV and Radio.

Now in the last few days I'm getting listings for Radio but not TV.

It seems that the Windows PVR suddenly doesn't like listing TV but does list
Radio.

In command line mode with

get_iplayer --refresh tv

this refreshes fine - with complete listings downloaded incl. I suspect what
didn't get downloaded over the last two days or so.

As I said no issues with Radio.

Chris B.

On 10/07/2015, tellyaddict tellyaddic...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
 Sorry - yes I have GiP v2.94 I'm also using Chrome.

 I don't have GiP open all the time. I start it up when I need to 
 download - about once every few days or for a special Quick URL.

 I am using the Windows PVR - for both Radio and TV progs.

 I always do a Cache Refresh for Radio and TV (both check marked). [No 
 Podcasts tho']

 First I get the download dots for TV - but no listings at all.

 Then I get the download dots for Radio with a full listing of progs.

 Not sure if the TV cache is ever refreshed.

 Chris B.

 Do you get the same result if you refresh the TV cache from the 
 command line?

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RE: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?

2015-07-07 Thread Graham Temple (gmail)
Yes but what about people who never ever watch TV at all.  There are some,
believe it or not - my parents for instance.  They have computers and
internet, but why should they pay a charge for something they will never
use, just because they have some equipment (whose primary purpose is not for
accessing TV!) which theoretically could access on demand content.  How will
you differentiate between those who don't and those who say they don't?  It
is like saying you own a car and live in London so will probably use the
Dartford crossing and enter the congestion zone, so we are going to add £50
a year to your road fund licence and do away with the congestion charges and
tolls. 

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of Dave Liquorice
Sent: 07 July 2015 09:06
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?

On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 20:29:44 +, batguano999 wrote:

 You have broadband and a computer / 'smart' sic TV. Egro, you are 
 equipped to access iplayer, thus require a license.
 
 Hmmm
 That's a computer license then.
 :-)

Too restrictive a description, unless you want to keep the lawyers fat
arguing about the semantics of the word computer. 

The Dutch have a Media Licence.

TBH I very happy that the licence will now apply to on demand content. 
Without that the BBC's income was set on a, possibly quite rapid, down ward
direction as more and more people either cotton on or genuinely, never,
ever, watch TV as it is being broadcast.

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Cheers
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RE: Paywall for iPlayer?

2015-07-07 Thread Graham Temple (gmail)
RFL and fuel duty fund far more than roads, so none of your general taxation
pays for roads, quite the opposite.  Schools and hospitals are funded from
general taxation (not even the NHS is linked to the NI anymore) and if you
think the BBC is on a par with hospitals and schools, it also be funded from
general taxation not a licence fee.  Problem solved.

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of Jim web
Sent: 07 July 2015 13:03
To: 'Dave Liquorice'; get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?

In article 011501d0b8a8$7e46f3a0$7ad4dae0$@gmail.com, Graham Temple
\(gmail\) graham.j.tem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes but what about people who never ever watch TV at all.  There are 
 some, believe it or not - my parents for instance.  They have 
 computers and internet, but why should they pay a charge for something 
 they will never use, just because they have some equipment (whose 
 primary purpose is not for accessing TV!) which theoretically could 
 access on demand content.

The flaw in that argument is that we *all* benefit when the BBC produce
informative programmes. Even if someone didn't see/hear it, others will be
able to correct their ignorance when they express it. :-)


 How will you differentiate between those who don't and those who say 
 they don't?  It is like saying you own a car and live in London so 
 will probably use the Dartford crossing and enter the congestion zone, 
 so we are going to add £50 a year to your road fund licence and do 
 away with the congestion charges and tolls.

Erm.. You may have missed the fact that kind of thing happens anyway. :-)

I have no car, but I don't doubt that a lot of the my income has gone to pay
for the roads, etc. That seems fair to me when I eat food that was taken
to/from the shops in lorries, etc.

I have no children (that I'm aware of 8-]) but I'm happy that money taken
from me has been used to educate those around me - at least it did in some
cases. ;- As yet I've also never had to stay in Hospital, but I may need
one sometime.

You may also be glossing over the fact that BBC radio is paid for out of the
fee, even if it was decided not to require one. 

Jim


 -Original Message- From: get_iplayer 
 [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of Dave 
 Liquorice Sent: 07 July 2015 09:06 To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
 Subject: Re: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?

 On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 20:29:44 +, batguano999 wrote:

  You have broadband and a computer / 'smart' sic TV. Egro, you 
  are equipped to access iplayer, thus require a license.
  
  Hmmm That's a computer license then.
  :-)

 Too restrictive a description, unless you want to keep the lawyers fat 
 arguing about the semantics of the word computer.

 The Dutch have a Media Licence.

 TBH I very happy that the licence will now apply to on demand content.
 Without that the BBC's income was set on a, possibly quite rapid, down 
 ward direction as more and more people either cotton on or genuinely, 
 never, ever, watch TV as it is being broadcast.

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RE: Paywall for iPlayer?

2015-07-07 Thread Graham Temple (gmail)
You prove my point.  TV should not be funded by a licence fee, but by direct 
grant from the government, funded by general taxation.  No other tax is 
directly related any more, not even NI for the NHS.  That is what the licence 
fee would be if all had to pay it specifically.  We don't have a schools tax, 
fuel duty and RFL pay for far more than roads etc, etc.

GT

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of 
Owen Smith
Sent: 07 July 2015 13:18
To: get_iplayer
Subject: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?

I have no children so don't use schools, but I still pay for them and am happy 
to do so. I regard the BBC as being on the same footing, everyone in the UK 
should pay for it.

--
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Cambridge, UK

 On 7 Jul 2015, at 12:31, Graham Temple (gmail) graham.j.tem...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yes but what about people who never ever watch TV at all.  There are 
 some, believe it or not - my parents for instance.  They have 
 computers and internet, but why should they pay a charge for something 
 they will never use, just because they have some equipment (whose 
 primary purpose is not for accessing TV!) which theoretically could 
 access on demand content.  How will you differentiate between those 
 who don't and those who say they don't?  It is like saying you own a 
 car and live in London so will probably use the Dartford crossing and 
 enter the congestion zone, so we are going to add £50 a year to your 
 road fund licence and do away with the congestion charges and tolls.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On 
 Behalf Of Dave Liquorice
 Sent: 07 July 2015 09:06
 To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
 Subject: Re: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?
 
 On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 20:29:44 +, batguano999 wrote:
 
 You have broadband and a computer / 'smart' sic TV. Egro, you are 
 equipped to access iplayer, thus require a license.
 
 Hmmm
 That's a computer license then.
 :-)
 
 Too restrictive a description, unless you want to keep the lawyers fat 
 arguing about the semantics of the word computer.
 
 The Dutch have a Media Licence.
 
 TBH I very happy that the licence will now apply to on demand content. 
 Without that the BBC's income was set on a, possibly quite rapid, down 
 ward direction as more and more people either cotton on or genuinely, 
 never, ever, watch TV as it is being broadcast.
 
 --
 Cheers
 Dave.
 
 
 
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RE: Paywall for iPlayer?

2015-07-06 Thread Graham Temple (gmail)
Yes but the BBC have themselves to blame for the current antipathy from the
present government with their dreadful left wing bias, which was cringing in
the recent election coverage.  However I do totally agree that if the baby
goes out with the bathwater it would be a real shame as I agree much of what
they offer is excellent.

GT

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of michael norman
Sent: 06 July 2015 18:57
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?



 Mike

 Some real anti-BBC comments being posted on the forums. While I think 
 the BBC can be pretty arrogant as an organisation (for example when 
 dealing with complaints) I'm a great supporter of PBS broadcasting and 
 I think the range and quality of programmes produced by the 
 Corporation is just astounding, especially when compared to some of 
 the dross put out by the Commercial channels. Having spent a fair bit 
 of time abroad in recent years, I've not come across a broadcaster 
 which can even come close to rivalling the BBC whether it's radio or 
 TV. I've never had any dealings with the BBC other than as a viewer so 
 I cannot comment on whether it's top-heavy with management, etc.

 For me, the licence fee is excellent value for money - not a day goes 
 by without me referring to the BBC website, reading news etc, ditto 
 listening to radio and viewing TV.  And the iPlayer is now providing 
 the type of TV I dreamed about 20 years ago (knocking spots off ITV's
 offering) and, of course, get_iplayer is an invaluable bolt-on. I do 
 think the loophole that allows viewers to watch TV output online (as 
 long as it's not live) does need to be plugged. I'm more than happy to 
 pay the licence fee and would hate any move towards subscriptions fees 
 whether it's for TV or iPlayer access, equally I would be against any 
 move to make any of the BBC channels to carry commercials.

 Alan

Agreed, fortunately without having had to experience being abroad without
the BBC.

The crucial point I was trying to make in the context of this list was and
is how does the bbc plug what they perceive as the iPlayer gap.  Its ironic
that iPlayer is streets ahead technically of all the other catch up
services, particularly ITVs offering, aside from anything about quality
content the BBC started the whole thing and have made it work.

What happens next ? I don't know, I fear the worst.

Mike


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