Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus
On 7 Jun 2015 at 4:24, Vangelis forthnet Vangelis forthnet northmed...@the.forthnet.gr wrote: On Thu Jun 4 21:40:56 BST 2015, M Clark wrote: cookies set by 127.0.0.1 my address bar has http://localhost:1935/ I just wish I could remember to back-up Firefox cookies for when I accidently delete them. I simply use Piriform's CCleaner (freeware) to manage browser cookies; supports IE, Firefox, Google Chrome, Opera. You can set the cookies you don't want deleted (e.g. cookies by localhost or ones set by other sites that require you to log in) as exceptions and then CCleaner will remove all cookies from all browsers but the ones you specified in the exceptions list! It's very handy! Just a tip I use... Plus 1 for that. I've been doing the same for years with auto-run at startup selected. Installed same set-up on mother's PC too. Cheers, Peter - Web Hosting and VPS provided by HostSlim https://clients.hostslim.eu/aff.php?aff=079 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus
On Thu Jun 4 21:40:56 BST 2015, M Clark wrote: cookies set by 127.0.0.1 my address bar has http://localhost:1935/ I just wish I could remember to back-up Firefox cookies for when I accidently delete them. I simply use Piriform's CCleaner (freeware) to manage browser cookies; supports IE, Firefox, Google Chrome, Opera. You can set the cookies you don't want deleted (e.g. cookies by localhost or ones set by other sites that require you to log in) as exceptions and then CCleaner will remove all cookies from all browsers but the ones you specified in the exceptions list! It's very handy! Just a tip I use... Cheers, V. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus
Thanks for the tip on getting Radio to be ticked by default. I'll tell the guy (he's in the US so doesn't want / need t.v.). And having installed v2.94 from scratch - incl. all the other apps. aka a clean installation - I am finding that GiP works just as before. So thanks to all who made this happen. The long wait with a blank black window and headings only I guess was because the system was downloading a brand new cache. I would guess that after the Beeb's changes v2.92 destroyed the t.v. cache, but also the radio cache (for me). At the time even the command line refresh failed for me. Re: Springwatch when I do a refresh cache with v2.94 and then a 'name' search for 'springwatch' I get listed all the variations on the theme incl. the morning show, unsprung, and the main prog. Wonderful - thank you. CJB. On 05/06/2015, Vangelis forthnet northmed...@the.forthnet.gr wrote: On Thu Jun 4 21:40:56 BST 2015, M Clark wrote: cookies set by 127.0.0.1 my address bar has http://localhost:1935/ Oops...you are right! 127.0.0.1 was changed to localhost many months ago, to deal with changes brought on by IE11 on Windows: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2013-November/005205.html As my VistaSP2 machine can only go as far as IE9, I never really modified the pvr_manager.url shortcut file... In any case, Firefox is the browser I use, so no harm done... :-) Cheers ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus
IE9 is incredibly slow on Vista (yes I'm the world's other Vista user). After a couple of days of using it I downgraded to IE8. For about a year that was fine. Now that XP is out of support (IE8 was the last for XP) there are an increasing number of web sites that simply don't work on IE8. So I now use Chrome on Vista. -- Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net Cambridge, UK On 5 Jun 2015, at 00:41, Vangelis forthnet northmed...@the.forthnet.gr wrote: On Thu Jun 4 21:40:56 BST 2015, M Clark wrote: cookies set by 127.0.0.1 my address bar has http://localhost:1935/ Oops...you are right! 127.0.0.1 was changed to localhost many months ago, to deal with changes brought on by IE11 on Windows: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2013-November/005205.html As my VistaSP2 machine can only go as far as IE9, I never really modified the pvr_manager.url shortcut file... In any case, Firefox is the browser I use, so no harm done... :-) Cheers ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus
On Thu Jun 4 21:40:56 BST 2015, M Clark wrote: cookies set by 127.0.0.1 my address bar has http://localhost:1935/ Oops...you are right! 127.0.0.1 was changed to localhost many months ago, to deal with changes brought on by IE11 on Windows: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2013-November/005205.html As my VistaSP2 machine can only go as far as IE9, I never really modified the pvr_manager.url shortcut file... In any case, Firefox is the browser I use, so no harm done... :-) Cheers ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus
I have a contact who uses GiP for Radio only. He doesn't want t.v. How can he stop GiP downloading the t.v. list on start up? If, like you, is predominantly using the WPM, then after the GUI launches up with the TV Box ticked by default, he should untick it and tick the Radio box instead - then he should press Apply Settings, followed by Save As Default to store his pref; next time he launches WPM, only BBC Radio will be ticked and he can proceed to refresh just the radio cache by pressing the Refresh Cache button... This pref is saved inside a browser cookie, so he should take care not to delete cookies set by 127.0.0.1. If he's on the CLI, a very big expiry value would, in practice, disable the tv.cache autorefresh... Any other suggestions welcome... Thanks to Vangelis for his tips. However if the Web PVR Manager is being used then there is no need to use the CLI first (in Windows). In my experience the Web PVR Manager does not auto fresh either cache on start-up, and regardless of the value set in Auto-Refresh Cache Interval on the Recording tab will not auto-refresh UNLESS the Refreshing window is left open. I have left the Web PVR Manager window open with Auto-Refresh Cache Interval set to 1 (hour) for the past 2 hours and nothing has happened, which is what I would expect. But the CLI does auto refresh on start-up (now tv, used to be radio) and, at the risk of upsetting people, I believe this is a design flaw (or, probably more accurately, a techie being too helpful). An analogy would be getting in a car and it immediately taking you to the petrol station for a refill. But I only wanted something from the glove-box! There is also an unfortunate side effect if not connected to the internet, the cache gets emptied and when re-populated everything has a Time Added value of 0d 0h (which is correct) but a pain if I only want to process additions since the last (proper) refresh. Sorry for that last little moan, I get around it now by backing up the .get_iplayer folder after every run so I can restore a good state. It sounds to me that GiP has been updated from an old version and that the CLI (Get_iPlayer icon) is being used first, then the Web PVR. That would produce the symptoms described. If that is the case, then borrowing from Vangelis; use Web PVR Manager pointing to C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /c pvr_manager.cmd (or something similar) untick TV Box and tick the Radio box instead - then he should press Apply Settings, followed by Save As Default I only use the CLI for items not in the cache or to download a series ( --pid-recursive ). cookies set by 127.0.0.1 my address bar has http://localhost:1935/ I just wish I could remember to back-up Firefox cookies for when I accidently delete them. Anyway, let us know if the problem gets sorted. Regards, M. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus
On 04/06/2015 21:40, M Clark wrote: But the CLI does auto refresh on start-up (now tv, used to be radio) and, at the risk of upsetting people, I believe this is a design flaw (or, probably more accurately, a techie being too helpful). get_iplayer's cache expires by default after 4 hours. If the cache has expired, get_iplayer will refresh it when next run. So if it's been more than 4 hours since the last refresh when you run get_iplayer, it will refresh the cache. It has done this for as long as I've been using it (3 years). You can change the expiry time using the following command (taken from the Options Wiki) --expiry, -e secs : Cache expiry in seconds (default 4hrs) Perhaps you could set it to expire after 1 week and manually update the cache as and when you choose? There's also the command: --refresh-abortonerror : Abort cache refresh for programme type if data for any channel fails to download. Use --refresh-exclude to temporarily skip failing channels. Perhaps if used it would have the side effect of aborting a cache refresh if you weren't connected to the internet? Haven't tried that so only guessing. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 at 11:55 AM From: CJB chrisjbr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus It seems that now on starting up GiP 2.93/94 it refreshes the t.v. cache by default. That takes an age. Hence the otherwise blank black window. This takes an age - it used to be quick. Then the initial GiP PVM screen is displayed. The t.v. box is already ticked. I then tick the Radio box and click on Refresh Cache. Then the dots appear for t.v. but there is no listing Then the dots appear for Radio after which there is a listing. I have a contact who uses GiP for Radio only. He doesn't want t.v. listings at all. He's overseas and t.v. is not relevant to him. How can he stop GiP downloading the t.v. list on start up? CJB. On 04/06/2015, M Clark mcl...@gmx.co.uk wrote: Stupid question, maybe, but your Programme type BBC TV is ticked, isn't it, (in the web PVR)? Yep, it was a stupid question because the box must have been ticked to refresh the tv cache. Ho-hum, has to be something else, sorry. Regards, M. Thanks for the extra info. Just incase there was a difference between Vista 7... Fired up desktop running Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit. Clicked the Web PVR Manager icon (running GiP 2.91) - no cache refresh, as I would expect. Upgraded to GiP 2.93 and rebooted pc. Clicked the Web PVR Manager icon - no cache refresh, as I would expect. So same as Vista for me. Some of my settings in Web PVR are as follows; Advanced search tab - Added Since (hours) set to 1 Recording tab - Auto-Refresh Cache Interval and Auto-Run PVR Interval both set to 12 (this is so I can leave it running overnight without auto-refreshing/running. Although after cache refresh I usually close the window On start up there is no auto-refresh of cache and I have zero programmes listed (because nothing has been added within the last hour). I then proceed to update tv and/or radio cache as required by ticking the relevant Programme type box and clicking Refresh Cache. If the Get_iPlayer icon is used first then that does do an auto cache refresh. It used to be a radio refresh but changed (v2.92?, Dinkypumpkin would know when) to a tv refresh. My (Vista) icon links are as follows (untouched by me!); Web PVR Manager - C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /c pvr_manager.cmd Get_iPlayer - C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k get_iplayer.cmd --search dontshowanymatches get_iplayer.cmd --help Hope this helps. Regards, M. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus
On Thu Jun 4 11:55:02 BST 2015, CJB wrote: It seems that now on starting up GiP 2.93/94 it refreshes the t.v.cache by default. That takes an age. Do you mean the Web PVR Manager? I am two timezones away from the UK, but when I ran in the CLI a manual TV cache refresh: perl get_iplayer-294.pl -f --force that took exactly 52 secs in my Vista SP2 old laptop (ADSL2+ over WiFi) - launched the Web PVR Manager (in Firefox), the same manual TV cache refresh took slightly longer, but a mere 1min12sec; would hardly call this an age; are you on some rural area with slow dial-up? Please consider the option: --refresh-limit-tv The default is 7 (days of TV programmes to cache). Lower this (min 1) to get a smaller tv.cache file, that auto-refreshes more quickly... By setting up a longer tv.cache expiry value, you can delay the time interval between two automatic refreshes of the tv.cache; e.g. (via CLI): get_iplayer --prefs-add -e 604800 would auto-refresh the tv.cache every 7 days (you can always refresh manually, at a time of your choice... To remove the above pref, in the CLI: get_iplayer --prefs-del -e 604800). Then the initial GiP PVM screen is displayed. The t.v. box is already ticked. This is the default setting... I then tick the Radio box and click on Refresh Cache. Then the dots appear for t.v. but there is no listing Then the dots appear for Radio after which there is a listing. If the tv.cache has just been auto-refreshed some seconds ago, nothing new will be found via a forced refresh, hence the Then the dots appear for t.v. but there is no listing Untick the TV box prior to ticking the Radio box, so that only the radio.cache is refreshed when you press Refresh Cache... I have a contact who uses GiP for Radio only. He doesn't want t.v. How can he stop GiP downloading the t.v. list on start up? If, like you, is predominantly using the WPM, then after the GUI launches up with the TV Box ticked by default, he should untick it and tick the Radio box instead - then he should press Apply Settings, followed by Save As Default to store his pref; next time he launches WPM, only BBC Radio will be ticked and he can proceed to refresh just the radio cache by pressing the Refresh Cache button... This pref is saved inside a browser cookie, so he should take care not to delete cookies set by 127.0.0.1. If he's on the CLI, a very big expiry value would, in practice, disable the tv.cache autorefresh... Any other suggestions welcome... Regards, Vangelis. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus
I have a desktop shortcut with the following target line in it: C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe /k get_iplayer.cmd --type=radio --tree C:\required destination path\Radio.txt (Above all on one line with 'required destination path' replaced by your required location, of course) That runs GiP and produces a formatted text file 'radio.txt' with the list of new programs since last update followed by all available programs grouped by title. I have the same for TV listings with --type and filename changed to match. You can then look through the list with a text editor and select the required ones to download. Note that you'll get a blank command window until the run completes as the output is redirected to the text file. It seems that now on starting up GiP 2.93/94 it refreshes the t.v. cache by default. That takes an age. Hence the otherwise blank black window. This takes an age - it used to be quick. Then the initial GiP PVM screen is displayed. The t.v. box is already ticked. I then tick the Radio box and click on Refresh Cache. Then the dots appear for t.v. but there is no listing Then the dots appear for Radio after which there is a listing. I have a contact who uses GiP for Radio only. He doesn't want t.v. listings at all. He's overseas and t.v. is not relevant to him. How can he stop GiP downloading the t.v. list on start up? CJB. Regards John ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 at 9:52 PM From: CJB chrisjbr...@gmail.com To: get_iplayer-request get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Subject: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus OK - solved the mystery of the blank black screen. The system was actually downloading a list of over 1,000 TV programmes as part of its initial downloading. It appears that this is the default even if you only want Radio progs - Its never done that before. Anyway eventually the screen was populated with the usual input fields. Then I did a refresh of TV and Radio and got: === The cache will auto-refresh every 1 hour(s) if you leave this page open INFO: Getting tv Index Feeds (this may take a few minutes) .. INFO: Getting radio Index Feeds (this may take a few minutes) . Added: 10027: 5 live Daily - 03/06/2015, BBC Radio 5 live, Added: 10044: 5 live Sport: Women's World Cup 2015 - Women's World Cup Preview, BBC Radio 5 live, Added: 10053: 5 live Sport - 03/06/2015, BBC Radio 5 live, Added: 10076: A Kist o Wurds: Series 37 - Episode 22, BBC Radio Ulster, Added: 10084: A' Mire ri Mòir - 03/06/2015, BBC Radio Nan Gaidheal, Added: 10097: Adam Green and Vicki Archer - 03/06/2015, BBC Radio Shropshire, Added: 10103: Adam Tomlinson and Anna Wallace - 03/06/2015, BBC RDIOF ND BIG SNIP === That is the cache appears to have been refreshed with TV progs - BUT failed to list them!!! It did however list all the Radio progs. CJB. It appears that this is the default even if you only want Radio progs - Its never done that before. I noticed this some months ago (after last December's fiasco?), on the rare occasions when I've opened the CLI and haven't refreshed cache recently. That is the cache appears to have been refreshed with TV progs - BUT failed to list them!!! Stupid question, maybe, but your Programme type BBC TV is ticked, isn't it, (in the web PVR)? I recently had a problem with the Exclude Programmes cookie no longer being retained in Firefox (still isn't, even deleting full cookie and re-adding options). Maybe your old settings have gone askew. (I got around my problem by adding an exclude list in the options file). Just updated both caches in web PVR with no problem in Vista / Windows 6.0 / Windows Longhorn / still-works-better-than-Linux :-) Regards, M. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus
Stupid question, maybe, but your Programme type BBC TV is ticked, isn't it, (in the web PVR)? Yep, it was a stupid question because the box must have been ticked to refresh the tv cache. Ho-hum, has to be something else, sorry. Regards, M. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
