Re: Is anyone else's running slooowwwwlllyyy?
On 13/07/2011 21:08, Christopher Woods (CustomMade) wrote: -Original Message- From: get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of Clive Sent: 13 July 2011 20:29 To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: Is anyone else's running slooolllyyy? It seems to have settled down to totally unusable. Either the connection establishes very slowly and invariably times out or it establishes very quickly and at random points in the download either re-starts itself with the error messages: What the rest of us need to see is some comparative analysis of transfers done over your connection direct, and some downloads done through a (reliable, fast) proxy server using a VPN or SSH tunnel. If someone geeky fancies doing some testing but is short of a good bandwidthed UK server to route through for testing, I can give them a lend of my machine in Maidstone. (contact me off-list if you want to organise.) The speed test / results should then help narrow down the root cause - whether it's poor routing, congestion in your area, obvious traffic shaping or whether it's being done by the Beeb based on the behaviour of get_iplayer itself. (or perhaps all four...?) To confirm, everyone suffering is on Virgin Media cable? I can't help with that. But to provide a little bit more information - which does not lead anywhere - is that I just tried Falco using the PVR interface and it came down like a train. I immediately tried one episode of Vanity Fair and it failed and failed with the same set of error messages displayed on the PVR web page interface. Does the use of a proxy avoid the problems if they are VM network issues or traffic management? After all, the traffic still uses VM for the first/last let of the journey. Clive ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Is anyone else's running slooowwwwlllyyy?
On 13 July 2011 21:15, Clive roadc...@gmx.com wrote: On 13/07/2011 21:08, Christopher Woods (CustomMade) wrote: -Original Message- From: get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of Clive Sent: 13 July 2011 20:29 To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: Is anyone else's running slooolllyyy? It seems to have settled down to totally unusable. Either the connection establishes very slowly and invariably times out or it establishes very quickly and at random points in the download either re-starts itself with the error messages: What the rest of us need to see is some comparative analysis of transfers done over your connection direct, and some downloads done through a (reliable, fast) proxy server using a VPN or SSH tunnel. If someone geeky fancies doing some testing but is short of a good bandwidthed UK server to route through for testing, I can give them a lend of my machine in Maidstone. (contact me off-list if you want to organise.) The speed test / results should then help narrow down the root cause - whether it's poor routing, congestion in your area, obvious traffic shaping or whether it's being done by the Beeb based on the behaviour of get_iplayer itself. (or perhaps all four...?) To confirm, everyone suffering is on Virgin Media cable? I can't help with that. But to provide a little bit more information - which does not lead anywhere - is that I just tried Falco using the PVR interface and it came down like a train. I immediately tried one episode of Vanity Fair and it failed and failed with the same set of error messages displayed on the PVR web page interface. Does the use of a proxy avoid the problems if they are VM network issues or traffic management? After all, the traffic still uses VM for the first/last let of the journey. Clive FWIW I'm on Virgin cable 50 meg, and not seeing any throttling at all. Just tried Afternoon Play: Torchwood pt 1 and speed peaked at 44119.270 kB / 2700.02 sec (99.9%) (it basically finished while the speed was still climbing). Tried Horizon - Moon and speed peaked at 345861.904 kB / 3541.12 sec (99.9%) (was still climbing when it finished too). So it's not Virgin cable per-se, or perhaps they're only throttling the cheaper subscriptions? Am happy to provide some more stats/tests, if you can tell me what to look at. Cheers, Robs ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: Is anyone else's running slooowwwwlllyyy?
Are you starting from the correct directory? You can't invoke get_iplayer unless you're already in its working directly, this is because get_iplayer's folder is not included in Windows' PATH variable. (you can manually specify it - a quick Google will show you how - then invoke get_iplayer from any command prompt starting in any directory). Alternatively you can create a string which will automatically set the working directory to C:\program files\get_iplayer\ like so (copy and paste the following): C: cd program files\get_iplayer get_iplayer --options-here... Obviously substituting --options-here... with ... all of your options. I only use the command prompt to invoke get_iplayer and download stuff, it's faster and I can be more specific as to exactly what I want to download (plus you get handy realtime feedback and you can crank up the error logging to see if you have any problems during the download). The Web UI feels slow and clunky in comparison; I have a few pre-defined strings which include all of the environmental variables for quality, download location etc - all saved in a text file on my desktop next to a DOS prompt which is set to open in the get_iplayer directory. All I have to do is add the PID to the end of the string and hit enter... Not quite one click, but pretty good. Sorry guys, but i really _cannot_ see to use that deleted CMD interface. When I (painfully and slowly) typed *get_iplayer the horizon guide --get --force* I got something like *command not reckognised either internally or externally etc.* I'll accept that I did something wrong, but I really HATE trying tu use CMD. :-((( I can't even copy from or paste to it. You can, you just have to enabled it: click once on the top-left icon, go to Options, then enable Quick-Edit Mode. You can right-click to paste in clipboard text; click drag then left-click on the selection in an MS-DOS window to copy text to the clipboard. Brucie Bonus: if you're in a DOS prompt and want to change drive letter AND go to a specific folder in one go, type cd /d x: y\z (where x: is your drive letter and y\z is the subfolder within the root). The /d slash denotes you want to change both drive and directory. The joys of virtualised MS-DOS with Command Extensions. ;-) (Real men use Real Mode - think I might get that on a t-shirt) ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Is anyone else's running slooowwwwlllyyy?
I am also having huge problems with Virginmedia speeds! My d/l of The Horizon Guide-Moon was apparently compromised by it taking too long. Now, I want to re-download it, but I cannot find the *.swfinfo* file to dump. There is no such file on this computer!! Now what? Rog - Original Message - From: Kevin Reilly getipla...@denali.org.uk To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Is anyone else's running slooolllyyy? On 09/07/2011 16:31, Kevin Reilly wrote: For what it's worth I had this problem a couple of mornings back and switched from my 20Mb Virgin connection to an HSPA connection on a 3G MiFi and the speed went UP marginally. It'll be interesting to hear if anyone with an ISP other than Virgin is seeing these slowdowns. As far as I can cell so far it's been 100% Virgin customers. It's just taken nearly 40 minutes to download the HD (flashvhigh) version of Top Gear. Not only was the maximum throughput 3.2Mbps on a 20Mbps connection, the data was flowing in a very unusual pattern of peaks and troughs, almost a sawtooth with regular spikes. http://www.denali.org.uk/virginmedia/graph.jpg Something screwy is definitely going on with Virgin's connection to the back end servers for the iPlayer. -- Kev __ Frozen tasteless smoke treated tuna steak. Label on frozen fish box, Indonesia ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Is anyone else's running slooowwwwlllyyy?
- Original Message - From: Kevin Reilly getipla...@denali.org.uk To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Is anyone else's running slooolllyyy? On 09/07/2011 16:31, Kevin Reilly wrote: For what it's worth I had this problem a couple of mornings back and switched from my 20Mb Virgin connection to an HSPA connection on a 3G MiFi and the speed went UP marginally. It'll be interesting to hear if anyone with an ISP other than Virgin is seeing these slowdowns. As far as I can cell so far it's been 100% Virgin customers. It's just taken nearly 40 minutes to download the HD (flashvhigh) version of Top Gear. Not only was the maximum throughput 3.2Mbps on a 20Mbps connection, the data was flowing in a very unusual pattern of peaks and troughs, almost a sawtooth with regular spikes. http://www.denali.org.uk/virginmedia/graph.jpg Something screwy is definitely going on with Virgin's connection to the back end servers for the iPlayer. My d/l of The Horizon Guide-Moon was apparently compromised by it taking too long. Now, I want to re-download it, but I cannot find the *.swfinfo* file to dump. There is no such file on this computer!! Now what? Rog ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
