RE: M4A files (from YAMB) = slightly smaller filesize than originalAACs?

2011-05-17 Thread Christopher Woods (CustomMade)
 I've noticed this with MP4Box as well.  I think it filters 
 out ADTS frame headers when adding the AAC audio as a track 
 to the MP4 file, which would account for most of the 
 difference.  I would guess YAMB does likewise.

It seems to be non-destructive though; when re-exporting the raw streams out
of the MP4 file the resulting filesize is identical to the original file. I
*haven't* checksummed them though (just thought about doing it) - will run
QuickSFV when I get home and report the results, I'm about to leave the
office.


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Re: M4A files (from YAMB) = slightly smaller filesize than originalAACs?

2011-05-17 Thread dinkypumpkin

On 17/05/2011 19:01, Christopher Woods (CustomMade) wrote:

I've noticed this with MP4Box as well.  I think it filters
out ADTS frame headers when adding the AAC audio as a track
to the MP4 file, which would account for most of the
difference.  I would guess YAMB does likewise.


It seems to be non-destructive though; when re-exporting the raw streams out
of the MP4 file the resulting filesize is identical to the original file. I
*haven't* checksummed them though (just thought about doing it) - will run
QuickSFV when I get home and report the results, I'm about to leave the
office.



Yep - I should pointed that out.  The ADTS frame headers are there for 
use in streaming, but when they get stripped you still have the raw AAC 
audio intact inside the MP4 file - it doesn't get changed in any way, at 
least not by MP4Box.  When I first noticed this, I checksummed ADTS AAC 
audio going in and out of MP4Box, and it's OK.



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RE: M4A files (from YAMB) = slightly smaller filesize than originalAACs?

2011-05-17 Thread Christopher Woods (CustomMade)
 I'm not going to swear to it, but as long as the conversion 
 is only taking a few seconds, then there's probably nothing 
 to worry about. Hopefully some others will chime in, but 
 conversion to MP3 would take a lot longer (probably several 
 minutes on a current PC? Try it to find out). If you're not 
 transcoding, then you're (hopefully!) not performing a lossy 
 operation on the audio stream.

Indeed. Preaching to the choir there, I work with audio on a daily basis
juggling probably half a dozen formats, lossy and lossless. I spend
seemingly half of my waking hours explaining to people why transcoding their
iTunes to MP3 is not a good idea.


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