Re: Radio now aac rather than mp3

2011-02-23 Thread Dave F.

On 21/02/2011 17:20, Christopher Woods (CustomMade) wrote:

Hi
To get mp3 instead of aac use this:-
--mode=flashaudio


Please do bear in mind though that (from my own empirical comparisons) it
seems the iPlayer just TRANScodes the original AAC audio to MP3, it's not
encoded fresh from the original source audio.


Hi

Could you expand on the difference between the original source  the 
original AAC.


I thought they were the same thing.

Cheers
Dave F.

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RE: Radio now aac rather than mp3

2011-02-23 Thread Christopher Woods (CustomMade)
  Please do bear in mind though that (from my own empirical 
 comparisons) 
  it seems the iPlayer just TRANScodes the original AAC audio to MP3, 
  it's not encoded fresh from the original source audio.
 
 Hi
 
 Could you expand on the difference between the original 
 source  the original AAC.
 
 I thought they were the same thing.


When I say original source, I mean the original sound from source that the
BBC are using to do the main encodes. As far as I'm aware, they use the same
raw source feed as they send on to Sky Digital, Freeview, Freesat etc (there
was some discussion of this on the BBC Radio 3 HD Sound thread a while
back). From this, they also encode the iPlayer AAC streams for Listen Again.

The MP3 sounds like it's a second generation encode - i.e., it's being
TRANScoded from the main AAC file - and not being freshly encoded from the
raw source audio. If it is actually being encoded from the same uncompressed
feed that's being used for everything else, something is very, VERY wrong
with the codec configuration.

Martin Deutsch who used to frequent the BBC Backstage mailing list worked
for Siemens IIRC, he had access to some of the backend stuff and video/audio
archives, he may know if someone involved with the iPlayer team isn't
already lurking on this list :-) I've also discussed this on the BBC
Backstage list recently and provided samples, but that conversation thread's
dead for the moment (it really needs some input from people working on the
iPlayer team).


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Re: Radio now aac rather than mp3

2011-02-20 Thread Paul
Thanks for the swift reply, much appreciated. I now have the .flv
file, here is the output:

C:\Program Files\get_iplayerget_iplayer --raw --modes
flashaachigh,flashaac,flashaacstd,flashaudio,
flashhigh,flashstd,flashnormal,flashaaclow --rtmptvopts --swfVfy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/emp/10player.
swf --rtmpradioopts --swfVfy http://www.bbc.co.uk/emp/10player.swf;
--force --pid b007k133
get_iplayer v2.79, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis
  This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details use --warranty.
  This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain
  conditions; use --conditions for details.

INFO Trying to stream pid using type radio
INFO: pid found in cache
Matches:
10475:  Bram Stoker's Dracula - Episode 2, BBC 7, Drama,Horror 
Supernatural,Radio

INFO: 1 Matching Programmes
INFO: Checking existence of default version
INFO: flashaaclow1,flashaaclow1 modes will be tried for version default
INFO: Trying flashaaclow1 mode to record radio: Bram Stoker's Dracula
- Episode 2
INFO: File name prefix = Bram_Stokers_Dracula_-_Episode_2_b007k133_default
RTMPDump v2.3
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Connecting ...
INFO: Connected...
Starting download at: 0.000 kB
INFO: Metadata:
INFO:   duration  2160.15
INFO:   moovPosition  36.00
INFO:   audiocodecid  mp4a
INFO:   aacaot2.00
INFO:   audiosamplerate   22050.00
INFO:   audiochannels 1.00
INFO: tags:
INFO:   ┬®alb Bram Stoker's Dracula
INFO:   aART  BBC BBC7
INFO:   ┬®ART BBC BBC7
INFO:   ┬®cmt Worried Mina awaits news from
Transylvania, while Lucy sleepwalks afte
r a shipwreck.
INFO:   cprt  British Broadcasting Corporation ┬®
2011, all rights reserved.
INFO:   ┬®gen Podcast
INFO:   ┬®nam Bram Stoker's Dracula 19 02 2011
INFO:   ┬®day 2011
INFO: trackinfo:
INFO:   length95262720.00
INFO:   timescale 44100.00
INFO:   language  und
INFO: sampledescription:
INFO:   sampletypemp4a
13429.990 kB / 2160.11 sec (99.9%)
Download complete

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