Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
In article , Dave Liquorice wrote: > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 11:14:48 +0100, CJB wrote: > > Then there are VPN services - free v.v. paid for. If the Beeb offered > > such then folks would surely pay to watch or listen from overseas. > Trouble is the BBC does not hold hold the rights to world wide > distribution on all of their content. And of course, the IPR holders would want a rather higher payment before they would allow the BBC to extend access in such ways. Plus - on a political level - you could expect a fuss about a 'public subsidiesed competitor' being unfair the purely commercial 'competitors'. The BBC simply does not have the same freedoms that commercial operations have because its basis is quite different. Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
On 06/07/2020 20:16, Dave Liquorice wrote: It has potential to be a good litte earner but managing what content was available to which parts of the world and that the consumer was really where they claimed to be would be horrendous. The last bit is fairly easy. Rights holders don't require that you are completely accurate at banning people from overseas. Twenty-odd years ago when I was asked to look into regional restrictions for Olympic content for them banning 90% of people who ought to be banned was considered good enough. Geo-IP libraries are pretty accurate these days. There is of course a constant game of whack-a-mole with VPN end-points, but hardly anyone actually uses those so blocking them isn't particularly important. -- David Cantrell ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 11:14:48 +0100, CJB wrote: > Then there are VPN services - free v.v. paid for. If the Beeb offered > such then folks would surely pay to watch or listen from overseas. Trouble is the BBC does not hold hold the rights to world wide distribution on all of their content. > Anther revenue stream it does not been to want to exploit. It has potential to be a good litte earner but managing what content was available to which parts of the world and that the consumer was really where they claimed to be would be horrendous. -- Cheers Dave. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
ROKU Smart TVs and sticks have an app called FoTV which allows streaming and recording of BBC, ITV and Channel 4 and 5 shows, and there is also an Android app (and probably an iPhone app) No shortage of legal (and illegal) ways to get BBC programmes. Most BBC shows eventually end up on other networks around the world, some sooner than others. get_iplayer is far from the only game in town. On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 11:55, Dave Widgery wrote: > > Not only does the BBC not want to exploit a market that people are > currently using for free through the back door, they are wasting their > time spending a fortune on a competitor to Amazon Alexa, Google > Assistant, Apple Siri, Microsoft Cortana, Samsung Bixby and god knows > how many more AI interfaces, I would rather they spent the money > getting their current apps to work properly, this is why do I use > get_iplayer because the BBC app is flakey or it certainly is on the > Firestick, all the other TV channel apps seem to work faultlessly on > my dodgy internet connection, but with Iplayer unless I get a good > day with no wind (my connection is particularly bad when it is windy) > it just gives up often it takes several attempts to start a program, > if I go to live TV that is half way through and try to use the start > from the beginning, it plays for a little while then jumps to the live > feed and you have to keep rewinding. > > It is not just me there are lots of the same story on the internet > with smart TV's and tv boxes, and don't even get me started on the BBC > Sounds app, it is practically useless and they haven't even bothered > to do a version for the latest firestick. > > > Sorry rant over > > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 12:23, CJB wrote: > > > > Then there are VPN services - free v.v. paid for. If the Beeb offered > > such then folks would surely pay to watch or listen from overseas. > > Anther revenue stream it does not been to want to exploit. > > > > But I would opine one demand would be for archival recordings audio > > (sorry 'sounds') and video. Once there was a huge (and expensive) > > project to put all archival recordings online. But after huge > > expenditure the project was abandoned - at license fee-payers' > > expense. > > > > I would love to hear the programmes made by such pioneers as Charles > > Parker, A.L.Lloyd, Ewan MacColl, Michael Mason, Charles Chilton, Alan > > Lomax, and many others. But their works have all been consigned to the > > 'dusty archives' never to be heard again - that is if the archives > > ever had them anyway. > > > > At least Merlin is still available. > > > > CJB. > > > > > > On 06/07/2020, Jim web wrote: > > > In article <77065296-bede-4f1c-a6a2-f774c580b...@gmail.com>, > > > VeniVidiVideo > > > wrote: > > >> Boy, the hypocrisy here is stunning. The BBC allows time-limited > > >> downloads, but does NOT allow downloads without an expiration date. > > >> Every single license payer here is violating BBC's terms of service by > > >> using GiP to download files that do not expire. Yet heaven forbid > > >> someone from outside the UK violate those same terms of service. > > > > > > Erm, back in mere reality, people in the UK for many decades have been > > > able > > > to use VCRs, DVD Videorecorders, and now computer-based system to record > > > from broadcasts and keep those recordings for an indeterminate time. > > > > > > The use of get_iplayer in essence just provides another convenient way to > > > do this. > > > > > > *However the umbrella requirement of all the above is to be a TV Licence > > > fee payer, and thus legally can access the material.* (Or some agreed > > > equivalent.) > > > > > > What would be wrong for *all* the above methods would be to make and > > > distribute copies to others. Or to not have a TV License (or equivalent). > > > > > > IIUC The formal view of the BBC wrt gip is that they neither 'condone or > > > support' it. But I know that at least some people at the BBC themselves do > > > use it.[1] AIUI Their main concern is that it may act as a 'leak' for > > > material, undermining the IPR holder's ability to market the material > > > outwith the UK. That in turn would undermine the BBCs position as they'd > > > be > > > either denied material or asked for more money by the IPR holders, and > > > find > > > their ability to sell BBC-created material would reduce. > > > > > > Also: You may not have noticed that the BBC have been trying to extend the > > > accessibility in terms of allowing longer time periods before material > > > 'expires' from iplayer. There has actually been quite a spur put to this > > > by > > > 'lockdown'. Some 'box setting' has been occurring. > > > > > > So I suggest that your view isn't quite correct. > > > > > > The key point is that in general people *outwith* the UK do NOT have any > > > 'permission or right' to make recordings or even *view* the UK-intended > > > material. That means via VCR, DVD Recorder, etc, as well as by live > > > viewing
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
Not only does the BBC not want to exploit a market that people are currently using for free through the back door, they are wasting their time spending a fortune on a competitor to Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, Apple Siri, Microsoft Cortana, Samsung Bixby and god knows how many more AI interfaces, I would rather they spent the money getting their current apps to work properly, this is why do I use get_iplayer because the BBC app is flakey or it certainly is on the Firestick, all the other TV channel apps seem to work faultlessly on my dodgy internet connection, but with Iplayer unless I get a good day with no wind (my connection is particularly bad when it is windy) it just gives up often it takes several attempts to start a program, if I go to live TV that is half way through and try to use the start from the beginning, it plays for a little while then jumps to the live feed and you have to keep rewinding. It is not just me there are lots of the same story on the internet with smart TV's and tv boxes, and don't even get me started on the BBC Sounds app, it is practically useless and they haven't even bothered to do a version for the latest firestick. Sorry rant over On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 12:23, CJB wrote: > > Then there are VPN services - free v.v. paid for. If the Beeb offered > such then folks would surely pay to watch or listen from overseas. > Anther revenue stream it does not been to want to exploit. > > But I would opine one demand would be for archival recordings audio > (sorry 'sounds') and video. Once there was a huge (and expensive) > project to put all archival recordings online. But after huge > expenditure the project was abandoned - at license fee-payers' > expense. > > I would love to hear the programmes made by such pioneers as Charles > Parker, A.L.Lloyd, Ewan MacColl, Michael Mason, Charles Chilton, Alan > Lomax, and many others. But their works have all been consigned to the > 'dusty archives' never to be heard again - that is if the archives > ever had them anyway. > > At least Merlin is still available. > > CJB. > > > On 06/07/2020, Jim web wrote: > > In article <77065296-bede-4f1c-a6a2-f774c580b...@gmail.com>, > > VeniVidiVideo > > wrote: > >> Boy, the hypocrisy here is stunning. The BBC allows time-limited > >> downloads, but does NOT allow downloads without an expiration date. > >> Every single license payer here is violating BBC's terms of service by > >> using GiP to download files that do not expire. Yet heaven forbid > >> someone from outside the UK violate those same terms of service. > > > > Erm, back in mere reality, people in the UK for many decades have been able > > to use VCRs, DVD Videorecorders, and now computer-based system to record > > from broadcasts and keep those recordings for an indeterminate time. > > > > The use of get_iplayer in essence just provides another convenient way to > > do this. > > > > *However the umbrella requirement of all the above is to be a TV Licence > > fee payer, and thus legally can access the material.* (Or some agreed > > equivalent.) > > > > What would be wrong for *all* the above methods would be to make and > > distribute copies to others. Or to not have a TV License (or equivalent). > > > > IIUC The formal view of the BBC wrt gip is that they neither 'condone or > > support' it. But I know that at least some people at the BBC themselves do > > use it.[1] AIUI Their main concern is that it may act as a 'leak' for > > material, undermining the IPR holder's ability to market the material > > outwith the UK. That in turn would undermine the BBCs position as they'd be > > either denied material or asked for more money by the IPR holders, and find > > their ability to sell BBC-created material would reduce. > > > > Also: You may not have noticed that the BBC have been trying to extend the > > accessibility in terms of allowing longer time periods before material > > 'expires' from iplayer. There has actually been quite a spur put to this by > > 'lockdown'. Some 'box setting' has been occurring. > > > > So I suggest that your view isn't quite correct. > > > > The key point is that in general people *outwith* the UK do NOT have any > > 'permission or right' to make recordings or even *view* the UK-intended > > material. That means via VCR, DVD Recorder, etc, as well as by live viewing > > or gip. > > > > Jim > > > > [1] Indeed, on more than one occasion over the years I've co-operated with > > some to help them check/develop some aspects of iplayer performance. Using > > gip for the purpose. It is actually a very handy tool for engineers. > > > > -- > > Electronics > > https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm > > Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html > > biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html > > Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html > > > > > > ___ > > get_iplayer mailing list > >
Re: OT really Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
Interestingly the Genome service has an \Explorer option whereby it is supposed to allow you to search the Archives. However I've not yet got it to find anything. When doing a search on Genome itself sometimes there are links to recordings on iPlayer. There are indeed quite a few OTR enthusiasts who have provided long forgotten recordings from off-air. One series recovered entirely from enthusiasts was "Parsely Sidings." There's a great guy one Keith Wickham who restores off-air recordings for R4X. He's on Facebook. On another group on FB a member reports: Re: I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again "Having a clearout before a house move and these tapes, 'obtained' when I worked in the Tape Library at Ken.House, will be donated to Kaleidoscope for their safe keeping. They are the un-cut studio tapes for the complete 1973 series of 'I'm Sorry, I'll Read That Again'. The BBC actually has digital copies of all of these (plus some more) which I gave them, via Keith W a few years ago. Oh, did I get even a 'thank you'? Nope. So, the tapes will go to Chris Perry's Kaleidoscope team as they'll probably keep them better than the Beeb will! Just noticed that there is a reel missing from the 11.11.73 recording, it's here somewhere! I still have to locate the some other stuff too, the loft beckons! Oh, in case you're wondering, I 'obtained' them when I was told to wipe them and re-use the tapes. I took them home instead." That gives us some hope ... CJB On 06/07/2020, Jim web wrote: > In article > , >CJB wrote: > >> I would love to hear the programmes made by such pioneers as Charles >> Parker, A.L.Lloyd, Ewan MacColl, Michael Mason, Charles Chilton, Alan >> Lomax, and many others. But their works have all been consigned to the >> 'dusty archives' never to be heard again - that is if the archives >> ever had them anyway. > > I've certainly heard items from series like the Chilton 'space' series. + > Some MacColl. And I do think the BBC are gradually adding more archive > material to an accessible 'archive'. The problem is that this is a slow > process given the resources they have. > > Personally, I'd love to hear "The Northern Drift" again. But suspect most > people now would be baffled by "Close the coalhouse door"! > > However, much material will have been lost... and sometimes then recovered > from 'home recordings'. ;-> > > One of the curios here is the clash between trying to limit home recording > and then using it to recover 'lost' material decades later. Various items > have appeared again having been recovered from private recordings. > > Jim > > -- > Electronics > https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm > Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html > biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html > Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > -- MSc. (O.R.); BSc. (Ind Maths); Dip. Ed. (F.E.); Cert Mgt (O.U.) Health & Safety Rep. - Unite (MSF/AMICUS) + Brit. Airways Freelance Investigative Journalist - re: Leasehold / Managing / Letting / Estate Agents ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
OT really Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
In article , CJB wrote: > I would love to hear the programmes made by such pioneers as Charles > Parker, A.L.Lloyd, Ewan MacColl, Michael Mason, Charles Chilton, Alan > Lomax, and many others. But their works have all been consigned to the > 'dusty archives' never to be heard again - that is if the archives > ever had them anyway. I've certainly heard items from series like the Chilton 'space' series. + Some MacColl. And I do think the BBC are gradually adding more archive material to an accessible 'archive'. The problem is that this is a slow process given the resources they have. Personally, I'd love to hear "The Northern Drift" again. But suspect most people now would be baffled by "Close the coalhouse door"! However, much material will have been lost... and sometimes then recovered from 'home recordings'. ;-> One of the curios here is the clash between trying to limit home recording and then using it to recover 'lost' material decades later. Various items have appeared again having been recovered from private recordings. Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
Then there are VPN services - free v.v. paid for. If the Beeb offered such then folks would surely pay to watch or listen from overseas. Anther revenue stream it does not been to want to exploit. But I would opine one demand would be for archival recordings audio (sorry 'sounds') and video. Once there was a huge (and expensive) project to put all archival recordings online. But after huge expenditure the project was abandoned - at license fee-payers' expense. I would love to hear the programmes made by such pioneers as Charles Parker, A.L.Lloyd, Ewan MacColl, Michael Mason, Charles Chilton, Alan Lomax, and many others. But their works have all been consigned to the 'dusty archives' never to be heard again - that is if the archives ever had them anyway. At least Merlin is still available. CJB. On 06/07/2020, Jim web wrote: > In article <77065296-bede-4f1c-a6a2-f774c580b...@gmail.com>, > VeniVidiVideo > wrote: >> Boy, the hypocrisy here is stunning. The BBC allows time-limited >> downloads, but does NOT allow downloads without an expiration date. >> Every single license payer here is violating BBC's terms of service by >> using GiP to download files that do not expire. Yet heaven forbid >> someone from outside the UK violate those same terms of service. > > Erm, back in mere reality, people in the UK for many decades have been able > to use VCRs, DVD Videorecorders, and now computer-based system to record > from broadcasts and keep those recordings for an indeterminate time. > > The use of get_iplayer in essence just provides another convenient way to > do this. > > *However the umbrella requirement of all the above is to be a TV Licence > fee payer, and thus legally can access the material.* (Or some agreed > equivalent.) > > What would be wrong for *all* the above methods would be to make and > distribute copies to others. Or to not have a TV License (or equivalent). > > IIUC The formal view of the BBC wrt gip is that they neither 'condone or > support' it. But I know that at least some people at the BBC themselves do > use it.[1] AIUI Their main concern is that it may act as a 'leak' for > material, undermining the IPR holder's ability to market the material > outwith the UK. That in turn would undermine the BBCs position as they'd be > either denied material or asked for more money by the IPR holders, and find > their ability to sell BBC-created material would reduce. > > Also: You may not have noticed that the BBC have been trying to extend the > accessibility in terms of allowing longer time periods before material > 'expires' from iplayer. There has actually been quite a spur put to this by > 'lockdown'. Some 'box setting' has been occurring. > > So I suggest that your view isn't quite correct. > > The key point is that in general people *outwith* the UK do NOT have any > 'permission or right' to make recordings or even *view* the UK-intended > material. That means via VCR, DVD Recorder, etc, as well as by live viewing > or gip. > > Jim > > [1] Indeed, on more than one occasion over the years I've co-operated with > some to help them check/develop some aspects of iplayer performance. Using > gip for the purpose. It is actually a very handy tool for engineers. > > -- > Electronics > https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm > Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html > biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html > Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > -- MSc. (O.R.); BSc. (Ind Maths); Dip. Ed. (F.E.); Cert Mgt (O.U.) Health & Safety Rep. - Unite (MSF/AMICUS) + Brit. Airways Freelance Investigative Journalist - re: Leasehold / Managing / Letting / Estate Agents ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
In article <77065296-bede-4f1c-a6a2-f774c580b...@gmail.com>, VeniVidiVideo wrote: > Boy, the hypocrisy here is stunning. The BBC allows time-limited > downloads, but does NOT allow downloads without an expiration date. > Every single license payer here is violating BBC's terms of service by > using GiP to download files that do not expire. Yet heaven forbid > someone from outside the UK violate those same terms of service. Erm, back in mere reality, people in the UK for many decades have been able to use VCRs, DVD Videorecorders, and now computer-based system to record from broadcasts and keep those recordings for an indeterminate time. The use of get_iplayer in essence just provides another convenient way to do this. *However the umbrella requirement of all the above is to be a TV Licence fee payer, and thus legally can access the material.* (Or some agreed equivalent.) What would be wrong for *all* the above methods would be to make and distribute copies to others. Or to not have a TV License (or equivalent). IIUC The formal view of the BBC wrt gip is that they neither 'condone or support' it. But I know that at least some people at the BBC themselves do use it.[1] AIUI Their main concern is that it may act as a 'leak' for material, undermining the IPR holder's ability to market the material outwith the UK. That in turn would undermine the BBCs position as they'd be either denied material or asked for more money by the IPR holders, and find their ability to sell BBC-created material would reduce. Also: You may not have noticed that the BBC have been trying to extend the accessibility in terms of allowing longer time periods before material 'expires' from iplayer. There has actually been quite a spur put to this by 'lockdown'. Some 'box setting' has been occurring. So I suggest that your view isn't quite correct. The key point is that in general people *outwith* the UK do NOT have any 'permission or right' to make recordings or even *view* the UK-intended material. That means via VCR, DVD Recorder, etc, as well as by live viewing or gip. Jim [1] Indeed, on more than one occasion over the years I've co-operated with some to help them check/develop some aspects of iplayer performance. Using gip for the purpose. It is actually a very handy tool for engineers. -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
While I don't disagree with much of your text, I believe you're wrong about the BBC terms of reference. My understanding is that if you access iPlayer from an Apple device, then that 30-day limit doesn't apply. All get_iplayer does is emulate (or simulate) that Apple environment, thereby avoiding the 30-day limitation. - Regards, Paul Thornett On Mon, 6 Jul. 2020, 11:09 VeniVidiVideo, wrote: > > Boy, the hypocrisy here is stunning. The BBC allows time-limited downloads, > but does NOT allow downloads without an expiration date. Every single > license payer here is violating BBC's terms of service by using GiP to > download files that do not expire. Yet heaven forbid someone from outside > the UK violate those same terms of service. Plus, every US participant that > has ever spoken up has observed they'd happily pay the license fee if they > could. Hell, I tried to work out an arrangement to pretend to live in an > apartment on somebody's property so I could have an address and pay the > license fee, just to contribute my fair share, but the fellow decided not to > follow through. I didn't blame him for wanting to avoid any impropriety, but > you holier-than-thou types really suck. People in glass houses... > > - larryy > > > On Jul 5, 2020, at 8:31 AM, James Robinson > > wrote: > > > > Could not agree more. Well said. > > > >> On 04 July 2020 at 17:29 Jon Davies wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 13:58, Barry Toner wrote: > >>> Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the > >>> USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need > >>> subtitles or audio description. > >> > >> This is why I stopped subscribing to this list a couple of years ago - > >> I've been resubscribed by the old backup, but will be going again. I > >> want nothing to do with anyone or anything that promotes violation of > >> the BBC terms of use. See > >> https://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/terms-of-use/ - particularly 7a, the > >> bit that says > >> > >> a. Don’t mess with our services > >> > >> What do we mean by that? This sort of thing: > >> ...Accessing content from outside the UK that you aren’t allowed to, > >> or helping others do the same. > >> > >> So, please just stop using get-iplayer for this sort of thing. People > >> have put effort into building get-iplayer to enable fair use within > >> the UK in circumstances that the BBC's own software doesn't support. > >> > >> Yes, I'm angry. I'm angry that people, including you Barry Toner, are > >> abusing the work others (and to a much lesser extent I) have put into > >> get-iplayer and the various distribution points for it. > >> > >> So I'm pulling the plug on what's left of the Ubuntu repository > >> (though it was getting no further updates for other reasons), and > >> pulling the plug on the Raspbian repository. If you don't like this, > >> tough. Do your own thing. I'm having no part in this any more. > >> > >> Jon > >> > >> ___ > >> get_iplayer mailing list > >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > > ___ > > get_iplayer mailing list > > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
On my Freeview HD PVR I can record anything the BBC broadcast and keep it as long as I want. And it is a higher resolution and bit rate recording, often with 5.1 sound which iPlayer never provides. If I have to use iPlayer for some reason, I am already putting up with reduced picture and sound quality. Why should I also have to put up with a limited retention time? -- Owen Smith Cambridge, UK > On 6 Jul 2020, at 02:11, VeniVidiVideo wrote: > > Boy, the hypocrisy here is stunning. The BBC allows time-limited downloads, > but does NOT allow downloads without an expiration date. Every single > license payer here is violating BBC's terms of service by using GiP to > download files that do not expire. Yet heaven forbid someone from outside > the UK violate those same terms of service. Plus, every US participant that > has ever spoken up has observed they'd happily pay the license fee if they > could. Hell, I tried to work out an arrangement to pretend to live in an > apartment on somebody's property so I could have an address and pay the > license fee, just to contribute my fair share, but the fellow decided not to > follow through. I didn't blame him for wanting to avoid any impropriety, but > you holier-than-thou types really suck. People in glass houses... > > - larryy > >> On Jul 5, 2020, at 8:31 AM, James Robinson >> wrote: >> >> Could not agree more. Well said. >> On 04 July 2020 at 17:29 Jon Davies wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 13:58, Barry Toner wrote: Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need subtitles or audio description. >>> >>> This is why I stopped subscribing to this list a couple of years ago - >>> I've been resubscribed by the old backup, but will be going again. I >>> want nothing to do with anyone or anything that promotes violation of >>> the BBC terms of use. See >>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/terms-of-use/ - particularly 7a, the >>> bit that says >>> >>> a. Don’t mess with our services >>> >>> What do we mean by that? This sort of thing: >>> ...Accessing content from outside the UK that you aren’t allowed to, >>> or helping others do the same. >>> >>> So, please just stop using get-iplayer for this sort of thing. People >>> have put effort into building get-iplayer to enable fair use within >>> the UK in circumstances that the BBC's own software doesn't support. >>> >>> Yes, I'm angry. I'm angry that people, including you Barry Toner, are >>> abusing the work others (and to a much lesser extent I) have put into >>> get-iplayer and the various distribution points for it. >>> >>> So I'm pulling the plug on what's left of the Ubuntu repository >>> (though it was getting no further updates for other reasons), and >>> pulling the plug on the Raspbian repository. If you don't like this, >>> tough. Do your own thing. I'm having no part in this any more. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> ___ >>> get_iplayer mailing list >>> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer >> >> ___ >> get_iplayer mailing list >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
Boy, the hypocrisy here is stunning. The BBC allows time-limited downloads, but does NOT allow downloads without an expiration date. Every single license payer here is violating BBC's terms of service by using GiP to download files that do not expire. Yet heaven forbid someone from outside the UK violate those same terms of service. Plus, every US participant that has ever spoken up has observed they'd happily pay the license fee if they could. Hell, I tried to work out an arrangement to pretend to live in an apartment on somebody's property so I could have an address and pay the license fee, just to contribute my fair share, but the fellow decided not to follow through. I didn't blame him for wanting to avoid any impropriety, but you holier-than-thou types really suck. People in glass houses... - larryy > On Jul 5, 2020, at 8:31 AM, James Robinson > wrote: > > Could not agree more. Well said. > >> On 04 July 2020 at 17:29 Jon Davies wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 13:58, Barry Toner wrote: >>> Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the >>> USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need >>> subtitles or audio description. >> >> This is why I stopped subscribing to this list a couple of years ago - >> I've been resubscribed by the old backup, but will be going again. I >> want nothing to do with anyone or anything that promotes violation of >> the BBC terms of use. See >> https://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/terms-of-use/ - particularly 7a, the >> bit that says >> >> a. Don’t mess with our services >> >> What do we mean by that? This sort of thing: >> ...Accessing content from outside the UK that you aren’t allowed to, >> or helping others do the same. >> >> So, please just stop using get-iplayer for this sort of thing. People >> have put effort into building get-iplayer to enable fair use within >> the UK in circumstances that the BBC's own software doesn't support. >> >> Yes, I'm angry. I'm angry that people, including you Barry Toner, are >> abusing the work others (and to a much lesser extent I) have put into >> get-iplayer and the various distribution points for it. >> >> So I'm pulling the plug on what's left of the Ubuntu repository >> (though it was getting no further updates for other reasons), and >> pulling the plug on the Raspbian repository. If you don't like this, >> tough. Do your own thing. I'm having no part in this any more. >> >> Jon >> >> ___ >> get_iplayer mailing list >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
Could not agree more. Well said. > On 04 July 2020 at 17:29 Jon Davies wrote: > > > On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 13:58, Barry Toner wrote: > > Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the > > USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need > > subtitles or audio description. > > This is why I stopped subscribing to this list a couple of years ago - > I've been resubscribed by the old backup, but will be going again. I > want nothing to do with anyone or anything that promotes violation of > the BBC terms of use. See > https://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/terms-of-use/ - particularly 7a, the > bit that says > > a. Don’t mess with our services > > What do we mean by that? This sort of thing: > ...Accessing content from outside the UK that you aren’t allowed to, > or helping others do the same. > > So, please just stop using get-iplayer for this sort of thing. People > have put effort into building get-iplayer to enable fair use within > the UK in circumstances that the BBC's own software doesn't support. > > Yes, I'm angry. I'm angry that people, including you Barry Toner, are > abusing the work others (and to a much lesser extent I) have put into > get-iplayer and the various distribution points for it. > > So I'm pulling the plug on what's left of the Ubuntu repository > (though it was getting no further updates for other reasons), and > pulling the plug on the Raspbian repository. If you don't like this, > tough. Do your own thing. I'm having no part in this any more. > > Jon > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
It is best NOT to do that. That is not what get_iplayer is for. Please stop. > On 05 July 2020 at 12:03 Computing wrote: > > > Hi Barry, can I ask how much extra you are going to chip in to the BBC > pot, to cover the cost of the episodes of Celebrity Master Chef that you > are stealing?? > > Martin > > On 04/07/2020 13:50, Barry Toner wrote: > > Hi, > > Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the > > USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need > > subtitles or audio description. > > Is there a syntax that will grab the published episodes, and that will run > > in the background grabbing each episode of the season as they go up on > > iPlyaer? > > > > Thanks. > > Barry. > > ___ > > get_iplayer mailing list > > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
Hi Barry, can I ask how much extra you are going to chip in to the BBC pot, to cover the cost of the episodes of Celebrity Master Chef that you are stealing?? Martin On 04/07/2020 13:50, Barry Toner wrote: Hi, Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need subtitles or audio description. Is there a syntax that will grab the published episodes, and that will run in the background grabbing each episode of the season as they go up on iPlyaer? Thanks. Barry. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
In article , Geoff Smith wrote: > Bravo, Jon. > Giving Americans freebies at our Licence payers' expense is disgraceful. > "Grab" = "Steal". FWIW I'm also unhappy when people use get-iplayer for purposes like this. Not only because it means some people are making use of what the rest of us happily pay a license fee to support. And find use of gip very handy as a way - in the UK and having paid the fee - to watch and listen to BBC output. But also because it increases pressure on the BBC to block gip access, which for me - and many others - would be a real blow! Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 13:58, Barry Toner wrote: > Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the USA > I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need subtitles > or audio description. This is why I stopped subscribing to this list a couple of years ago - I've been resubscribed by the old backup, but will be going again. I want nothing to do with anyone or anything that promotes violation of the BBC terms of use. See https://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/terms-of-use/ - particularly 7a, the bit that says a. Don’t mess with our services What do we mean by that? This sort of thing: ...Accessing content from outside the UK that you aren’t allowed to, or helping others do the same. So, please just stop using get-iplayer for this sort of thing. People have put effort into building get-iplayer to enable fair use within the UK in circumstances that the BBC's own software doesn't support. Yes, I'm angry. I'm angry that people, including you Barry Toner, are abusing the work others (and to a much lesser extent I) have put into get-iplayer and the various distribution points for it. So I'm pulling the plug on what's left of the Ubuntu repository (though it was getting no further updates for other reasons), and pulling the plug on the Raspbian repository. If you don't like this, tough. Do your own thing. I'm having no part in this any more. Jon ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
Bravo, Jon. Giving Americans freebies at our Licence payers' expense is disgraceful. "Grab" = "Steal". Geoff Smith > > On 04/07/2020, Jon Davies wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 13:58, Barry Toner wrote: >> Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in >> the >> USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need >> subtitles or audio description. > > This is why I stopped subscribing to this list a couple of years ago - > I've been resubscribed by the old backup, but will be going again. I > want nothing to do with anyone or anything that promotes violation of > the BBC terms of use. See > https://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/terms-of-use/ - particularly 7a, the > bit that says > > a. Don’t mess with our services > > What do we mean by that? This sort of thing: > ...Accessing content from outside the UK that you aren’t allowed to, > or helping others do the same. > > So, please just stop using get-iplayer for this sort of thing. People > have put effort into building get-iplayer to enable fair use within > the UK in circumstances that the BBC's own software doesn't support. > > Yes, I'm angry. I'm angry that people, including you Barry Toner, are > abusing the work others (and to a much lesser extent I) have put into > get-iplayer and the various distribution points for it. > > So I'm pulling the plug on what's left of the Ubuntu repository > (though it was getting no further updates for other reasons), and > pulling the plug on the Raspbian repository. If you don't like this, > tough. Do your own thing. I'm having no part in this any more. > > Jon > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
I find it easier to add the pvr files manually, as follows: Add a text file to the pvr folder with the following content: modes best output V:\BBC iPlayer Recordings subtitles 1 thumb 0 type tv versionlist default pidrecursive 1 pid b007mtf0 The last two lines are the ones that will pick up existing and future available episodes when you run the pvr. You will probably want to change the output path, and opt for different options for other parameters. This can be done for any iplayer series, using the series pid obtained from the "programme website" found by searching the BBC iplayer website. It's very useful for downloading "box sets" that have been made available but don't necessarily show up in the cache. HTH Don - Original Message - From: Barry Toner To: Sent: 04/07/2020 13:50:42 Subject: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef Hi, Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need subtitles or audio description. Is there a syntax that will grab the published episodes, and that will run in the background grabbing each episode of the season as they go up on iPlyaer? Thanks. Barry. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
