[Gimp-developer] wiki.gimp.org

2003-06-15 Thread Carol Spears
there is a wiki.  please, don't let me make it alone again.

the first thing that i am going to do is put up a FAQ, or a spot for it.

it is moinmoin wiki, and i opted for moin moin because it wasn't as
developed and ready to go as many of them.  it seems to me that perl
works better when it is rewritten in python.  and, people don't complain
so much when asked for python help, and i don't blame them.

also, any minute now, mmmaybe will turn into www.  i don't really care
to hear about how good or bad it is.  i would rather start working on
the new site.  the wiki should be good for this!

please, start making user sections and galleries.  when i got involved
with gimp, it was a small small community, and it was easy (too easy) to
keep an eye on everything.  this just isn't so anymore.

i have been surprised, as a total total user (i really know computers
starting with TheGIMP) how much i showed the developers.  Please show me
here on the wiki, I look at changes *alot*, and help us to build the
wiki itself with your ideas and or better yet plug-ins.  Would be cool
if they were GIMP and wiki plugins also, wikis and blogs lack images,
imo.

also, i am going to slap a creative commons share and share alike
license on there, well, gnu documentation for the gimp-help, of course.
well, just be sure to click on the license when i get it there and tell
me if if will work for you.

i need to be careful about babbling on right now.  please take your
ideas, and your art and your SCREAMS and whatever you have to the gimp
wiki.  i will read it.  

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[Gimp-developer] Debugging?

2003-06-15 Thread Douglas Lewan




Are there any Scheme debuggers that work with GIMP? 

Are there any profilers?

Where's the right place to get documentation for GIMP primitives? I've been
hunting through the C-code.

Thanks.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Debugging?

2003-06-15 Thread Jeff Trefftzs
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 19:35, Douglas Lewan wrote:
 Are there any Scheme debuggers that work with GIMP?  
 
 Are there any profilers?
 
 Where's the right place to get documentation for GIMP primitives?
 I've been hunting through the C-code.

The best place I've found for documentation on the GIMP primitives, at
least with respect to scheme and Perl, is in the PDB browser that should
have come with your GIMP.  I use it heavily when I'm writing script-fus.

Debugging:  you might try firing up the script-fu console in the GIMP
and testing code snippets there.  I've found this to work fairly well. 
My main problem is getting my head back into lisp space ...

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[Gimp-developer] Latest GimpCVS

2003-06-15 Thread Owen
The CVS I downloaded 20030616 (Last Changelog entry was
2003-06-14  Sven Neumann  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   * app/gui/image-menu.c (image_menu_entries): removed duplicate of
Threshold menu entry.
)
compiled and installed OK but stalled on start up

FWIW

13:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/mnt/hdb8/GimpCVS/gimp]#/usr/local/bin/gimp-1.3 
[3] 14024
13:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/mnt/hdb8/GimpCVS/gimp]#/usr/local/lib/gimp/1.3/plug-ins/tool-safe-mode: 
fatal error: Segmentation fault
/usr/local/lib/gimp/1.3/plug-ins/tool-safe-mode (pid:14026): [E]xit, [H]alt, show 
[S]tack trace or [P]roceed: S
bash: S: command not found

[3]+  Stopped /usr/local/bin/gimp-1.3





Removed the plug-in and no other problems

The first changelog entry I can find is 2003-01-05 so maybe it is me




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[Gimp-developer] Re: Debugging?

2003-06-15 Thread Carol Spears
On 2003-06-15 at 2031.16 -0700, Jeff Trefftzs typed this:
 
 Debugging:  you might try firing up the script-fu console in the GIMP
 and testing code snippets there.  I've found this to work fairly well. 
 My main problem is getting my head back into lisp space ...
 
Eeek!

Jeff, just say no!

all three versions of gimp i have used, 1.0 1.2 and 1.3 have a nifty
python plug-in complete with browser and console as well.

today i read two plug-ins for red-eye removal.  the script-fu just
looked like gibberish:
http://cs.uhh.hawaii.edu/~jeschke/photography/articles/gimp/RedEye2/red-eye.scm

this one. this was the saddest thing i ever read.  i never want to read
something this sad again.  please.  it is not the authors fault.  it is
not the fault of the person who ported gimp to it.  nor the gtk guy that
did it.  not the original authors of this scripting language either. i 
don't know why it is so sad.  you have to stop making me try to read this.  
mercy!
http://fmg-www.cs.ucla.edu/fmg-members/geoff/digicam/redeye

i would like to read it written in python.  it is direct and the modular
part is starting to make sense to me.  it makes me angry (okay
frustrated) not sad.  that is better.  please someone write this in
python quick so we can compare before i forget!

carol

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