[Gimp-developer] tool presets

2011-09-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
Hi,

We currently have the new Tool Presets dockable dialog that has zero
factory preset. Maybe we should should opulate it a bit? Some cropping
presets for popular photo paper formats, DVD and whatnot? Steal some
presets for painting tools from G-P-S?

Oh, and will those be translatable?

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Re: [Gimp-developer] tool presets

2011-09-04 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 07:38 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We currently have the new Tool Presets dockable dialog that has zero
 factory preset. Maybe we should should opulate it a bit? 

Can you bind presets to keystrokes? If not, I don't think it's worth it.

A minimum of three clicks to choose a preset (assuming the dialogue is
docked but not on top) means it'll only be a win for fairly specific
settings, and those are more likely to depend on the user/task/project.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] tool presets

2011-09-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/9/5 Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 We currently have the new Tool Presets dockable dialog that has zero
 factory preset. Maybe we should should opulate it a bit? Some cropping
 presets for popular photo paper formats, DVD and whatnot? Steal some
 presets for painting tools from G-P-S?

This is not something that blocks a 2.8 release and we badly badly
need to make a release. This should wait until after 2.8.

 / Martin


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Re: [Gimp-developer] tool presets

2011-09-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/9/5 Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote:

 This is not something that blocks a 2.8 release and we badly badly
 need to make a release. This should wait until after 2.8.

 How does it prevent you from releasing 2.8?

Any feature we add at this point will delay the 2.8 release because
someone needs to actually write the code, test the feature, fix bugs,
take feedback into account etc. Even if we get a patch from the
outside, a core developer basically needs to do all of the above
except writing the initial code. With limited resources, we have to
prioritize. And releasing 2.8 has higher priority than having default
tool presets. We can always add those later. And with the shorter
development cycles we aim for, it's not a big deal if a feature makes
it into x.y or x.(y + 2).

 / Martin


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Re: [Gimp-developer] tool presets

2011-09-04 Thread Alexia Death
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 We currently have the new Tool Presets dockable dialog that has zero
 factory preset. Maybe we should should opulate it a bit?
I agree. It should have at least something in it.

 Some cropping
 presets for popular photo paper formats, DVD and whatnot? Steal some
 presets for painting tools from G-P-S?
We shoudn't probably offer straight up GPS tools, because people a
likely to install gps themselves. But a few examples should be
included I guess.

 Oh, and will those be translatable?
Resources are not translatable by nature as far as I know. ..


On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote:
 Can you bind presets to keystrokes? If not, I don't think it's worth it.
You cant, but I cant see how thats relevant. The old tool presets
always required 2 clicks, same for bringing up the dockable and
selecting a preset. Now, I personally just keep the preset selector on
top most of the time with tag active for currently relevant tool set.
Tool presets pay off when you need to use the same tool with very
different settings. Paint tools are an obvious case, but Im sure there
are others. I personally have presets for the common cut 2:3 + rule of
thrids guides. Its easyer to use the preset when ever I need it than
to go and configure it.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any feature we add at this point will delay the 2.8 release because
 someone needs to actually write the code, test the feature, fix bugs,
 take feedback into account etc.

Since when does adding default resources counts as a feature or
involves significant amount of coding and risk of breakage? I would
agree if this was a coding task. It is not. If it was, there would be
something very wrong with the setup. We sort of promised our users
better resources with this release but nobody has take it up... The
very least we could do is to provide some defaults for the new things
so people know what it does.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] tool presets

2011-09-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote:

 Any feature we add at this point will delay the 2.8 release because
 someone needs to actually write the code, test the feature, fix bugs,
 take feedback into account etc.

Are we still talking about a single resource file and a patch to
Makefile.am to make this resource file installable? What sort of risk
does it impose on release of 2.8?

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