Re: [Gimp-developer] Minor enhancements in the export dialog

2012-11-25 Thread Alexia Death
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Guillermo Espertino (Gez)
 wrote:
> And this is kept between sessions, but the PNG extension is always used in
> the filename. If you change the extension to JPG, for instance, when you
> close and re-open GIMP it will go back to PNG (using the default "use
> extension" option, but it won't remember the last extension used).

I cant remember since when, but in current git for 2.8, all imported
images default to imported format before all other options.

Current order in git is for format AFAIK:
1. last export of this image
2. imported extension
3. last export of any image
4. png

Original 2.8.0 did not use imported extension at all and it was a
nuisance when working with JPG-s. 2.8.2 had the order slightly
different, 2 and 3 were switched.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Minor enhancements in the export dialog

2012-11-25 Thread Guillermo Espertino (Gez)

El 25/11/12 11:57, Richard Gitschlag escribió:
Now that is strange, because using Windows GIMP 2.8 it seems to be the 
default setting for my Export dialog, even between sessions.


Yes, It's also the default setting in linux, but the problem is that 
people seem to miss that using the extension will save the proper format 
and the think they have to choose the output format manually. That's why 
I propose to make that feature more obvious adding a better description.


And this is kept between sessions, but the PNG extension is always used 
in the filename. If you change the extension to JPG, for instance, when 
you close and re-open GIMP it will go back to PNG (using the default 
"use extension" option, but it won't remember the last extension used).


Gez
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Minor enhancements in the export dialog

2012-11-25 Thread Richard Gitschlag

> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:33:44 -0300
> From: gespert...@gmail.com
> To: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org
> Subject: [Gimp-developer] Minor enhancements in the export dialog
> 
> This is what I noted:
> Several users seem to miss the default "by extension" option in the 
> export dialog. They tend to use the dropdown to select the output 
> format. This is perceived as a tedious extra step "I have to use a 
> different option (export) then I have to find the proper format".
> Once they learn about that feature it is very well received, so probably 
> adding a more obvious description to that option could be useful.
> 

Now that is strange, because using Windows GIMP 2.8 it seems to be the default 
setting for my Export dialog, even between sessions.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Re : Feedback from an ordinary user

2012-11-25 Thread Guillermo Espertino (Gez)

El 25/11/12 10:57, Cristian Secară escribió:


That I know, but I was referring to Alexia's statement about anything
except XCF being destructive. That statement was about file format, or
so I understand.

If I crop something and either save as XCF or export as PNG (or other
lossless format versus the original), of course the cropping action
itself is destructive, but the file format makes no difference *in this
case*. Saving as XCF does not save also the original and an operation
history, for example, so what is the point in saying that export is
always destructive ?

Or maybe there is really something I am unaware of ?

Cristi


Oh, I see. You're right, the cropping operation in this case is 
destructive, independent of the output format. A scaling operation, any 
filter to the image would be destructive too, and the XCF won't store 
the original data.
However, as far as I know, this change (save/export) is one of the first 
steps towards non-destructive editing and in the future GIMP will store 
every action performed as a GEGL operation non-destructively.
When that happens the images you open will be actually "imported" in the 
node tree, and from that point every operation won't be destructive, so 
storing the XCF (or whatever format GIMP uses at that point) will be the 
only non-destructive option, while the rest of the formats will be 
destructive.


That's what I understood from Peter Sikking's blogposts and from 
comments in this list and in the IRC channel. Please let me know if this 
isn't correct.


Gez
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Minor enhancements in the export dialog

2012-11-25 Thread Nicolas Robidoux
Guillermo:

These are the most constructive comments I've read about this issue.

+1

nicolas
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