[Gimp-developer] Gimp Programmer Requirement
To Whom It May Concern, I have subscribed for access to your mail list for developers although I am not sure that I am accessing the developers correctly. Please forgive me if I have done this incorrectly. Why I subscribed is that I am in need of a programmer that could help me to integrate some of the functionality of Gimp into an application that I have responsibility for. Of course this would be a paid opportunity for the individual(s) with whom I would contract. Could you possibly help steer me in the right direction for reaching someone that could help me with this project? I would really appreciate any help that you can offer. Thanks! Phil Phillip Gilliam, President / CEO Pennington, Paul and Gilliam Inc 727-692-5151 p...@ppg7.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Pennington, Paul and Gilliam Inc, 610 S. Florida Ave., Tarpon Springs, Florida 34689, www.ppg7.com ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Search Action dialog feature
Jehan, thank you for making this step. with some effort from me (moderating) and some from you (making clarifying choices) we will have this thing shaped. it will just take an email exchange. allow me to summarise what you said: The action search tool allows to search for and run commands in a natural way (with natural language text). It is for searching tools, plugins and filters in GIMP when one knows they exist but can't find anymore. (you see I removed everything that is not in GIMP context, they do not mean anything. context is _everything_ in interaction design) the statement above is not precise enough. so I am going to ask some questions to get us there: 1) you say “action search tool.” is it not menu item search tool? an _action_ search would search the toolbox tools, the layer stack and all dockable dialogs too (the latter being super useful). 2) you say “natural language text,” the definition of which is very wooly. similar as with ‘Text-based Intent driven Tool’ it promises way too much (e.g. user types in “blown highlights” and TITo responds with “burn tool”). you need to be very precise in defining how sophisticated you want to be here (want to be, not describing the actual bit you do right now). there are more questions, but these only make sense when you have answered the two above. thanks, --ps founder + principal interaction architect man + machine interface works http://blog.mmiworks.net: on interaction architecture ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Search Action dialog feature
Hi, On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Michael Natterer mi...@gimp.org wrote: On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 00:10 +0100, peter sikking wrote: 1) you say “action search tool.” is it not menu item search tool? an _action_ search would search the toolbox tools, the layer stack and all dockable dialogs too (the latter being super useful). action is meant as technical term here. A menu item is a view on an internal action, and they include: - all menu items - all tools - all menu-invokable dialogs - some esoteric stuff which we'd probably filter out to avoid confusion Indeed. 2) you say “natural language text,” the definition of which is very wooly. similar as with ‘Text-based Intent driven Tool’ it promises way too much (e.g. user types in “blown highlights” and TITo responds with “burn tool”). you need to be very precise in defining how sophisticated you want to be here (want to be, not describing the actual bit you do right now). Please let's forget about the name TITO, it was a bad choice to begin with. Yes! Please all, stop saying tito, especially if that confuses you. TITO does not exist. This is an action search. This is about searching whatever text is associated with the action: - its name (as in technical name e.g. file-open) - its label (e.g. Open...) - its tooltip (e.g. Open a file blah foo) - with a little effort all those things both in the english original and the translated local language Exactly! I don't think we search the technical name in the current implementation though (usually words in the name as also in the label and/or tooltip; also the technical name may not be appropriate and won't be localized), but this can easily be done if someone really thinks it may be needed. In any case, we search the label and the tooltip. And localization already works. So if you have a French GIMP, you won't search for blur but for flou. There is no too much intelligence, and I don't think there will be, because that may mean too much work. There is still some minimum processing and that works already quite good. I only said natural language because the user can search with words of one's chosen language, not technicalities: no shortcut, no menu, no action name, just words. I did not mean any advanced natural language processing technics. So you can't get the burn tool with “blown highlights” because such words are not in our description of the tool. But if you search darken or lighten or even darken light, the search will answer with the burn tool. This is for initially finding the action, and this is the current state of affairs. Currently we are only talking about invoking the found action and should probably restrict the discussion to that, or it will get out of hand (like, let's not go into passing whatever parameters in that search entry) I agree. However, what we IMO could talk about is having a little help button/icon in each row of the search results, for the case where searching foo gives you some results, and you'd rather look them up in help before applying them to your image. That's an interesting proposition, indeed. Jehan P.S.: for Sven, I am on the road and have random internet access, so I can't really meet on IRC meetings with certaincy. Email is the way to go for now. :-) regards, --mitch ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
