Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting contributors via OpenHatch

2014-06-01 Thread Ed .

Are you saying you think that's well-publicised?

Are you saying you think keen people who can program will generally be able 
to follow this, because it's a simple cook-book recipe to build from git?


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From: Ofnuts

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On 29/05/14 22:27, Ed . wrote:
There aren't any formal barriers to contributing to GIMP. There are 
definitely some formidable (ha!) barriers in the practical sense. Until we 
provide a clear step-by-step guide (on say Debian) to getting GIMP 
compiled from git, only the most highly-motivated and 
already-knowledgeable people will be *able* to contribute.




http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building

No?
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting contributors via OpenHatch

2014-06-01 Thread Elle Stone
Here's some probably too long/too detailed instructions for building 
GIMP from git:


http://ninedegreesbelow.com/photography/build-gimp-in-prefix.html

If the article might be useful with modifications, I can release the 
text under whatever license is appropriate.



Calligra/Krita has very detailed build instructions that might make a 
good general guide for writing a how-to for building BABL/GEGL/GIMP:


http://community.kde.org/Calligra/Building


Elle






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Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting contributors via OpenHatch

2014-06-01 Thread Gez
El dom, 01-06-2014 a las 21:49 +0200, Ofnuts escribió:
 If you include in it the page from LightningIsMyName that it links to, 
 definitely...
 
 Call me cynical, but someone that needs really more detailed 
 instructions will likely not have the programming background to be a 
 useful Gimp developer. Of course I expect potential Gimp contributors to 
 be somewhat already-knowledgeable, at least in the basics of Linux 
 application development.  Lines have to be drawn somewhere...

+1
I'm not a coder, just a user and I could manage to build GIMP from git
without too much hassle.

Some things may be not exactly obvious, but I want to believe that
somebody who intends to contribute in a software project will be at
least equiped to compile the thing from sources.

If that's supposed to be an entry barrier, I think it's a good one.

Gez

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting contributors via OpenHatch

2014-06-01 Thread Ofnuts

On 02/06/14 00:41, Gez wrote:

El dom, 01-06-2014 a las 21:49 +0200, Ofnuts escribió:

If you include in it the page from LightningIsMyName that it links to,
definitely...

Call me cynical, but someone that needs really more detailed
instructions will likely not have the programming background to be a
useful Gimp developer. Of course I expect potential Gimp contributors to
be somewhat already-knowledgeable, at least in the basics of Linux
application development.  Lines have to be drawn somewhere...

+1
I'm not a coder, just a user and I could manage to build GIMP from git
without too much hassle.

Some things may be not exactly obvious, but I want to believe that
somebody who intends to contribute in a software project will be at
least equiped to compile the thing from sources.

If that's supposed to be an entry barrier, I think it's a good one.

Gez


I don't think it's an explicitly laid down barrier. But after all the 
maintenance manual of my bike assumes that you know how to operate a 
torque wrench and what SAE 20W50 means. If you don't you better keep 
your hands off the engine :)

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting contributors via OpenHatch

2014-06-01 Thread scl



On  1.6.2014 at 9:49 PM Ofnuts wrote:

If you include in it the page from LightningIsMyName that it links to,
definitely...

Call me cynical, but someone that needs really more detailed
instructions will likely not have the programming background to be a
useful Gimp developer. Of course I expect potential Gimp contributors to
be somewhat already-knowledgeable, at least in the basics of Linux
application development.


I would not reduce it to only Linux development:
We have a big lack of Windows developers or they have not enough
time, so Windows developers are very welcome, too.

And: contributions are not only coding. For example user support,
bug reporting and triaging, documentation, translation, contributing
high-quality assets, test and constructive user feedback/domain
guidance, website maintenance are also contributions and they don't
need knowledge of Linux application development.

Kind regards,

Sven

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