Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-11 Thread Partha Bagchi
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote:

  Hi Partha,

 Thanks for that... it installed ok but I feel like I'm about to go through
 a why-oh-why moment (not your fault).

 So I installed it, it comes up in English, so I go the the UI option
 where, hooray, I find a Language option. Immediately followed by a groan
 because it offers me System Language and English.

 What is a person supposed to do if they're on a locale which Apple doesn't
 support? Like 99% of the world's languages...

 And I'm also dismayed that in spite of my many emails to the list where I
 tried to make triple sure that all was going smoothly for .14, we've hit
 this stumbling block.

 Really not happy right now. I've googled around a bit but I *really* can't
 promote this to people and tell them to mess around with shell scripts.

This shouldn't happen and there is no need to mess with any script. I will
check into it.


 But perhaps I'm wrong and there IS an easy way of changing this... fingers
 crossed I guess... go on, someone surprise me?

Yes, the fix is quite easy if there is a problem.


 Michael

 11/09/2014 01:05, sgrìobh Partha Bagchi:

 You can download a build from my page www.partha.com. Should work from
 Snow Leopard all the way to Yosemite.

  If you do, let me know if you have issues.



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Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-11 Thread Michael Bauer

Hi Michael

Thanks. On my slightly older MacBook (which has a version of OSX which 
does not support gd at all) I have the same problem, only [System 
language] and [English] are on offer. I borrowed a friend's newer Mac 
where you can set gd as the locale (though it doesn't actually change 
the UI language), GIMP does now come up in Gaelic. However, I went to 
check the Settings and oddly enough (in Gaelic), it offers me [System 
language] and [Gaelic (en-US)].


Two questions, why - since there IS a manual UI language selection menu 
- are there only 2 locales on offer, default and English? Surely the mo, 
po or whatever format files GIMP uses to provide the UI are not *that* 
large that they cannot be included? And why is Gaelic shown as [Gaelic 
(en-US)]?


Minor bug possibly? The toolbars are not visible when the program starts 
but when I hit the yellow button to minimize the GIMP window, it 
minimizes and (automatically) maximizes again but this time with the 
toolbars on top. Everything else seems to be working but I'll play with 
it a bit more.


Michael

11/09/2014 01:59, sgrìobh Michael Schumacher:

We got a preview of a 2.8.14 dmg available 
athttp://download.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.8/osx/staging/

Made by Sven Claussner, and could use some testing.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-11 Thread Partha Bagchi
Michael B.,

I am confused. Which version of OSX do you have? My version supports Snow
Leopard to Yosemite.

I just checked and here is a screenshot from 2.8.14 (I am running Yosemite):

http://www.partha.com/images/screenshots/Gimp-2.8.14-Language-screenshot.jpg

Can you send me a screenshot or tell me how it looks on your system? Also,
it's possible your system does not have the iso-codes necessary for the
language display. If so, we can easily (I think) fix this.

If you are using my version, you can also leave me a message on my website
or also post on gimpchat.com.

Thanks,
Partha


On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote:

 Hi Michael

 Thanks. On my slightly older MacBook (which has a version of OSX which
 does not support gd at all) I have the same problem, only [System language]
 and [English] are on offer. I borrowed a friend's newer Mac where you can
 set gd as the locale (though it doesn't actually change the UI language),
 GIMP does now come up in Gaelic. However, I went to check the Settings and
 oddly enough (in Gaelic), it offers me [System language] and [Gaelic
 (en-US)].

 Two questions, why - since there IS a manual UI language selection menu -
 are there only 2 locales on offer, default and English? Surely the mo, po
 or whatever format files GIMP uses to provide the UI are not *that* large
 that they cannot be included? And why is Gaelic shown as [Gaelic (en-US)]?

 Minor bug possibly? The toolbars are not visible when the program starts
 but when I hit the yellow button to minimize the GIMP window, it minimizes
 and (automatically) maximizes again but this time with the toolbars on top.
 Everything else seems to be working but I'll play with it a bit more.

 Michael

 11/09/2014 01:59, sgrìobh Michael Schumacher:

 We got a preview of a 2.8.14 dmg available athttp://download.gimp.org/
 pub/gimp/v2.8/osx/staging/

 Made by Sven Claussner, and could use some testing.



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Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-11 Thread Michael Bauer


11/09/2014 11:35, sgrìobh Partha Bagchi:

Michael B.,

I am confused. Which version of OSX do you have? My version supports 
Snow Leopard to Yosemite.

My older machine is on Leopard, the newer one is running Mavericks


I just checked and here is a screenshot from 2.8.14 (I am running 
Yosemite):


http://www..partha.com/images/screenshots/Gimp-2.8.14-Language-screenshot.jpg 
http://www.partha.com/images/screenshots/Gimp-2.8.14-Language-screenshot.jpg
I'm not seeing that on either, I haven't got the Leopard machine here 
but I essentially see the same on Leopard as I'm seeing on Mavericks:

http://www.akerbeltz.org/sealach/UI.png


Can you send me a screenshot or tell me how it looks on your system? 
Also, it's possible your system does not have the iso-codes necessary 
for the language display. If so, we can easily (I think) fix this.
I doubt that any OSX (even Leopard) would struggle with displaying de or 
fr .. but where would I check that?


If you are using my version, you can also leave me a message on my 
website or also post on gimpchat.com http://gimpchat.com.
The screenshot is from the version Michael S posted the link for but the 
end result is pretty much the same. To sum up:

Mavericks:
Partha's dmg: UI in English, only System Language and English offered in 
dropdown, even with gd selected as OSX locale
Michael S's dmg: UI in Gaelic, only System Language and [Gàidhlig 
(en-US)] offered in dropdown, with gd selected as OSX locale


Leopard:
Partha's dmg: UI in English, only System Language and English offered in 
dropdown, gd cannot be selected as OSX locale

Michael S's dmg: Not tried

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Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-11 Thread scl



On  11.9.2014 at 12:50 PM Michael Bauer wrote:

The screenshot is from the version Michael S posted the link for but the
end result is pretty much the same. To sum up:
Mavericks:
Partha's dmg: UI in English, only System Language and English offered in
dropdown, even with gd selected as OSX locale
Michael S's dmg: UI in Gaelic, only System Language and [Gàidhlig
(en-US)] offered in dropdown, with gd selected as OSX locale



That's strange. I tested my build (= the one Michael Schumacher referred to)
on Mavericks and see a long list of languages in the language selector,
not only these both. With Partha's build I see indeed only two items.
Also, what language is your primary language in the OS X system settings
(I mean, what's it's native name so I could reproduce some issues)?
Are more people experiencing this effect?

Kind regards

Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-11 Thread Michael Henning
Gimp relies on the pkg-isocodes data files to generate the language
list correctly.

Patha: Please build and ship pkg-isocodes with your gimp binaries.
That should fix this issue.

Sources are available here: http://pkg-isocodes.alioth.debian.org/

If you already do ship pkg-isocodes (I didn't check), then this is an
issue with finding those files.

  -- drawoc

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:33 AM, scl scl.gp...@gmail.com wrote:


 On  11.9.2014 at 12:50 PM Michael Bauer wrote:

 The screenshot is from the version Michael S posted the link for but the
 end result is pretty much the same. To sum up:
 Mavericks:
 Partha's dmg: UI in English, only System Language and English offered in
 dropdown, even with gd selected as OSX locale
 Michael S's dmg: UI in Gaelic, only System Language and [Gàidhlig
 (en-US)] offered in dropdown, with gd selected as OSX locale


 That's strange. I tested my build (= the one Michael Schumacher referred to)
 on Mavericks and see a long list of languages in the language selector,
 not only these both. With Partha's build I see indeed only two items.
 Also, what language is your primary language in the OS X system settings
 (I mean, what's it's native name so I could reproduce some issues)?
 Are more people experiencing this effect?

 Kind regards

 Sven

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Re: [Gimp-developer] OSX

2014-09-11 Thread Partha Bagchi
I do package them with Windows where I think it's needed.

Didn't have the need before on Macs. I will add them to the Mac version as
well in case they are missing from a user's machine.

Thanks,
Partha


On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Michael Henning dra...@darkrefraction.com
 wrote:

 Gimp relies on the pkg-isocodes data files to generate the language
 list correctly.

 Patha: Please build and ship pkg-isocodes with your gimp binaries.
 That should fix this issue.

 Sources are available here: http://pkg-isocodes.alioth.debian.org/

 If you already do ship pkg-isocodes (I didn't check), then this is an
 issue with finding those files.

   -- drawoc

 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:33 AM, scl scl.gp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  On  11.9.2014 at 12:50 PM Michael Bauer wrote:
 
  The screenshot is from the version Michael S posted the link for but the
  end result is pretty much the same. To sum up:
  Mavericks:
  Partha's dmg: UI in English, only System Language and English offered in
  dropdown, even with gd selected as OSX locale
  Michael S's dmg: UI in Gaelic, only System Language and [Gàidhlig
  (en-US)] offered in dropdown, with gd selected as OSX locale
 
 
  That's strange. I tested my build (= the one Michael Schumacher referred
 to)
  on Mavericks and see a long list of languages in the language selector,
  not only these both. With Partha's build I see indeed only two items.
  Also, what language is your primary language in the OS X system settings
  (I mean, what's it's native name so I could reproduce some issues)?
  Are more people experiencing this effect?
 
  Kind regards
 
  Sven
 
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