Re: [Gimp-developer] Due diligence: Permission for usage of GIMP

2015-06-23 Thread C R
Branding guidelines are as much about what NOT to do as it is what to do.
Notice that official project usage and regular public usage are different
sections of the design document for Libre Office. It's beneficial to
separate projects associated with GIMP development from other sub-sections
that may or may not be affiliated with GIMP.

Thus, it's not a dictation of what to do to copy the GIMP project website,
but rather preserve the brand so it is not diluded by, say 1000 different
wilbur fan art graphics, which is what you see when you do a Google image
search for GIMP logo. I think there's benefit in providing some official
graphics and pre-made banners for things that link back to the official
GIMP website, and special versions of the graphic for things tied directly
to the GIMP project, and other graphics for general public use to spread
awareness of GIMP.

Thoughts?

It's a good deal of work though, so if people aren't on board with it,
please do let me know now. :)

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Michael Schumacher schum...@gmx.de wrote:



 On 06/23/2015 04:04 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote:

  Over in the LibreOffice project the design and marketing team made
  the LibreOffice Branding Guidelines [1].  It goes over everything from
 what
  the official spelling of the name, acceptable abbreviations, how the logo
  is to look with exact measurements, what colors are to be used with it,
 and
  the official fonts. I think this would be a great starting point for
  creating a design document.

 Some people already mistake gimpforums.com for an official resource
 because it resembles the www.gimp.org site rather closely.

 I really wouldn't like to encourage or dictate that any site should use
 the same colors, fonts and measurements.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Due diligence: Permission for usage of GIMP

2015-06-23 Thread Michael Schumacher


On 06/23/2015 04:04 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote:

 Over in the LibreOffice project the design and marketing team made
 the LibreOffice Branding Guidelines [1].  It goes over everything from what
 the official spelling of the name, acceptable abbreviations, how the logo
 is to look with exact measurements, what colors are to be used with it, and
 the official fonts. I think this would be a great starting point for
 creating a design document.

Some people already mistake gimpforums.com for an official resource
because it resembles the www.gimp.org site rather closely.

I really wouldn't like to encourage or dictate that any site should use
the same colors, fonts and measurements.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Due diligence: Permission for usage of GIMP

2015-06-23 Thread C R
Yes, this is precisely what I have in mind. I will use my own materials as
a start, then we can sub in official ones later (if they indeed exist).
Additionally, we can make a repository of the construction files used so
(when/if) we decide to rebrand/recolour later, it will be a simple matter
to update the brand guidelines. Thanks for the link, Andrew.
On 23 Jun 2015 3:05 am, Andrew Pullins android2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Over in the LibreOffice project the design and marketing team made
 the LibreOffice Branding Guidelines [1].  It goes over everything from what
 the official spelling of the name, acceptable abbreviations, how the logo
 is to look with exact measurements, what colors are to be used with it, and
 the official fonts. I think this would be a great starting point for
 creating a design document.

 When I was creating my Flat GIMP Icon Theme I wanted to get the orange to
 be as close to what I call GIMP orange as I could. The first go around I
 just color picked the sites header, but in the second I actually looked
 through the CSS and got the hex color code.  I think that it would be very
 beneficial to release a document like this so that people know how to best
 advertise GIMP while keeping to its branding.  Some People still call it
 The GIMP out of habit.

 [1]
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding

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 On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 6:23 PM, C R caj...@gmail.com wrote:

 All the more reason to offer a press kit of materials that are clearly
 okay
 for people and companies to use to promote GIMP. It's ambiguous otherwise
 because while the GIMP software is copyleft, the branding and materials
 may
 not be, and it's a pain for companies to pick out what's okay to use, and
 for what purpose. We need to make that clear. I'll submit a patch for a
 press kit section of the website in the coming week and we can gather
 opinions from the GIMP team about what to include and exclude. This is
 free
 and important advertising for the project. We should make it easy to share
 and promote GIMP as a tool for everyone to enjoy for business and personal
 use.
 On 22 Jun 2015 1:42 pm, Bill Skaggs weska...@gmail.com wrote:

  Actually there is nobody who has the right to give special permission.
 The
  GIMP software and manual are both released under very specific copyright
  conditions.  The GIMP web site is copyrighted by The GIMP Team.  The
  members of the team are listed at http://www.gimp.org/team.html, but
 there
  is no statement that any particular person has the right to release the
  material under altered conditions.  In short, the licenses and copyright
  law give you certain rights, and nobody in the GIMP project has the
 power
  to alter those rights.
 
  Bill
 
 
  On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Apollo D. Sharpe, Sr. 
  adsharp...@ironrookcomputing.com wrote:
 
   On 6/21/2015 7:57 PM, Gez wrote:
  
   I don't think that requires permission.
   Using application screenshots is a fair use (as long as they don't
   depict anything objectionable or illegal, I think). Linking back to
 the
   official site gimp.org is a good thing too, you're sending your
 users
   to the place where the actual project lives and where its official
 docs
   can be found.
  
   As C R just said, I'm also curious about the details of your project.
   Just out of curiosity :-)
  
   I didn't think that it'd be a problem, however, companies can never be
  too
   careful. We are primarily a high performance computer hardware
 company.
   We're trying to push PC-BSD, in an effort to show that the BSDs aren't
   second or third class systems  can perform as well as any other
   system...or better! At this point, the Linux users have their venues
 for
   consumer hardware. The major players have experiemented with it  then
   there're companies like System 76 out there. Now, PC-BSD has a systems
  ally
   for consumer. Powerful enough for a system's admin, but comfortable
  enough
   for your parents!
  
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