Re: [Gimp-developer] Testers requested for our new Mac OS X DMG release!,

2016-01-09 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:11 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

> 1. Negotiate a release date between mitch (GIMP maintainer), pippin
> (GEGL/babl maintainer), Jernej (Win builds), and Kris (OSX builds).

Also, I think whoever is in charge of the user manual these days
should have a say here, but the problem is that I have no idea who
that person is (Julien?), and I don't think this person is ever on IRC
where most communication is taking place. It would be _amazing_ to
have stakeholders connected to the release procedure and tuned to
actual gimp development.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Testers requested for our new Mac OS X DMG release!,

2016-01-09 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Kristian Rietveld wrote:

>> - @GIMP team: I remember that at the time I was more active
>> new versions came out of a sudden when Mitch had time to
>> bump a release and the releases were made later. This has the
>> effect that users who read the announcement have to wait
>> again and thus are disappointed after a long period of waiting
>> for a release.
>> How about reorganizing the process of release builds and
>> version announcements by
>> 1. negotiating a release date internally,
>> 2. completing the release docs (NEWS, 
>> http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=Release%3A&namespace=0)
>> 3. bumping the version number,
>> 4. making and testing the builds and
>> 5. as last step announcing the release?
>
> More coordinated releases would be a good thing to have IMHO. Releasing 
> Windows & Mac binaries and perhaps Debian/Ubuntu and Fedora packages at the 
> same time as a new tarball release would be great.

Was thinking of exact same thing lately :) But I'd take it further than that.

Not only we have lagging Win/Mac/Linux builds, we also have lagging
user manual releases.

For instance, gimp-help 2.8.0 was released as a tarball in June 2012,
a month after GIMP 2.8.0 release. The installers for Windows only
appeared in August, and we don't even have official OSX builds of the
user manual at all (the ones by Simone are outdated and only available
for a few languages).

Hence I'd like to propose the following change to the release policy,
using Sven's proposal as a basis:

1. Negotiate a release date between mitch (GIMP maintainer), pippin
(GEGL/babl maintainer), Jernej (Win builds), and Kris (OSX builds).

2. Finalize a list of changes that should be covered in the user
manual and in the docs for developers.

3. Announce a strings freeze at least a month before releasing to give
translators and docs writers do their job.

4. Complete all release related docs.

5. Bump version number for both GEGL/babl, GIMP, and gimp-help.

6. Make and test all builds for all supported systems.

7. Update the 'testing' branch of the website (download links,
announcements), update docs.gimp.org, check everything.

8. Merge all changes from the 'testing' branch into the 'master' branch of wgo.

9. Announce.

To specifically aid #2, since December, there's a changelog targeted
at user manual writers:

http://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Release:2.10_changelog

Needless to say, it's WIP, but it's getting there.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-developer] qpc mapping

2016-01-09 Thread Michael Schumacher
Am 02.01.2016 um 15:33 schrieb Ben Thurston:
> I posted a few days ago about a formula for conformal mapping, I have a
> python program listed at the bottom that does it to an arbitrary image and
> control points... I didn't see any responses to the last post so I don't
> know if anyone found it interesting or not...

There have been replies on the list to some of your previous messages,
but no reaction to those from you, as far as I can tell.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] qpc mapping

2016-01-09 Thread Liam R. E. Quin
On Sat, 2016-01-02 at 09:33 -0500, Ben Thurston wrote:
> I posted a few days ago about a formula for conformal mapping, I have
> a
> python program listed at the bottom that does it to an arbitrary
> image and
> control points... I didn't see any responses to the last post so I
> don't
> know if anyone found it interesting or not...

It might just not be the best time of the year to get people's
attention, as there are a lot of holidays in December/January.


> http://benpaulthurstonblog.blogspot.com/2015/12/parameterized-
> quadratic-conformal.html

Hmm, wonder if I could use this to get a page curl effect.

I suggest making an entry in the GIMP plugin registry for it.

Liam

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Testers requested for our new Mac OS X DMG release!,

2016-01-09 Thread Sven Claussner

Hi,


On  4.1.2016 at 9:23 AM Kristian Rietveld wrote:



On 31 Dec 2015, at 14:13, scl  wrote:



And the steps after that are to automate the process


This reminds me of my attempts to integrate an OS X build slave
into the Jenkins continuous build environment. Sam Gleske or
Tobias Vogel might be able to tell you more about the current state.


We’ve been in contact with Tobias indeed.


And to which result?



- @GIMP team: I remember that at the time I was more active
new versions came out of a sudden when Mitch had time to
bump a release and the releases were made later. This has the
effect that users who read the announcement have to wait
again and thus are disappointed after a long period of waiting
for a release.
How about reorganizing the process of release builds and
version announcements by
1. negotiating a release date internally,
2. completing the release docs (NEWS, 
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=Release%3A&namespace=0)
3. bumping the version number,
4. making and testing the builds and
5. as last step announcing the release?


More coordinated releases would be a good thing to have IMHO. Releasing Windows 
& Mac binaries and perhaps Debian/Ubuntu and Fedora packages at the same time 
as a new tarball release would be great.



Lately I heard of AppImages, self-contained application packages like
apps or dmg, but for Linux.
For the Ubuntu part I think all it takes is to contact "Otto 
Kesselgulasch", the maintainer of the GIMP PPA on Ubuntu.

Perhaps staying in touch with the package maintainers of other
distros could be helpful.

Greetings

Sven




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