Re: [Gimp-developer] Touchpad gestures for zooming

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Hello Povilas,

Am Di., 1. Dez. 2020 um 23:55 Uhr schrieb Povilas Kanapickas :
>
> I would like to implement touchpad gesture support in GIMP. Perhaps the
> most useful use case is the ability to do pinch gesture to zoom the
> currently opened image in and out. I would like to focus on just this
> use case initially.
>
> Is this something the team sees as an useful feature?
>
Yes, please do so. There is even an open issue for this:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/717

If you implement it I think you should use the master branch, because
it's gtk3 and you can use GtkGestureZoom there:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/commits/master
https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkGestureZoom.html
https://developer.gnome.org/Gestures/

Regards,
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Re: [Gimp-developer] lost gimp files

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Hello c Bella,

I never had this problem, but that doesn't mean it does not exist.

Could you tell us more about your System?
 - Operating system and version?
 - Gimp version?
 - Where is the Gimp from?
 - Do you dad any error massages?
 - Could you show us the empty file?

The more information you can give the better.

Regards,
Tobias

Am Di., 8. Okt. 2019 um 19:55 Uhr schrieb C Bella via gimp-developer-list <
gimp-developer-list@gnome.org>:

> To whom it concerns,
>
> I have been a gimp user for several years. Over the years, I've lost
> numerous days of work because, even after saving my work, gimp loses files.
> It happened to me again just now and I seriously want to break something. I
> just lost three days of work even though I properly saved the file. The
> thumbnail shows my last save but the file opens with no layers.
> This issue - the one of
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Contributing code that detect and change text/shapes in computer screenshot?

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Hi,

perhaps this could be integrated into the foreground selection tool as a
special mode.

Regards,
Tobias

Am So., 1. Sept. 2019 um 18:04 Uhr schrieb Gil Eli via gimp-developer-list <
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> Hello,
>
> I was previously contributed to solve gimp screenshot bug here:
> https://www.gimp.org/news/2018/05/20/gimp-2-10-2-released/
>
> I want to contribute again.
>
> I am the developer of this product
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaMUjMtIz_g
>
> It include some algorithem to detect texts/shapes on the screen.
> In order to work, it needs to scan the pixels and figure out what pixels
> are background and not. then It can remove everything without the
> texts/shapes, and it change the color of the texts to different color.
>
> Now I was able to make use of nvidia cuda to improve the performance.
> My new algorithem that use  nvidia cuda produce even better result. Here is
> an example:
>
> https://i.imagesup.co/images2/4cad91bb5ce384ab7a98715fca41140c415131b1.png
>
> The efficiency is very high. It takes 5ms to produce the result.
>
> It working without relying on any open source project/image processing
> frameworks. Everything is done by me in low level including the idea how to
> do it.
>
> I am wondering how much it can be used for GIMP as part of a feature or as
> a feature.
>
> Do you need the code that can do such thing?
>
> To be clear, I have the knowledge to:
>
>1. Detect any pixel that is text/shape of any language (no OCR needed)
>2. Change the color texts/shapes
>3. Remove the background around texts/shapes
>
>
> I am wondering if this can be used as some tool for GIMP and if so then how
> to get started.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] darktable plugin does not work

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Hi,

then the usual questions:
Gimp version?
Darktable version?
Operating System and Version?
If Linux X11 or Wayland?
Any thing else, that could help.

Regards,
Tobias



Am Di., 9. Apr. 2019 um 08:09 Uhr schrieb Maurizio Paglia via
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> Since some time I cannot open raw files from GIMP.
> darktable is correctly selected as raw plugin from the preference window
> but - when I try to open a .NEF file - darktable starts but its window
> remains black and hangs.
> When dt window is killed GIMP says the Nikon import plugin failed.
> I also launched GIMP from a terminal but cannot see any useful message...
>
> Thanks,
> Maurizio
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Re: [Gimp-developer] AI algorithms in GIMP - Style Transfer

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Hi Davide,

that's cool. The problem I have is that you use Tensorflow and that is
CUDA/nvidia only. I have two notebooks but non with nvidia card. I
think it would be better to have a AI with a CPU fallback.

Regards,
Tobias

Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 17:54 Uhr schrieb Davide Sandona' via
gimp-developer-list :
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I too was interested about the integration of AI algorithms into GIMP.
>
> I created a GIMP plugin that implement the style transfer technique. You
> can see the code in the following repository [1], as well as the
> instructions to get it working. Into this plugin I have integrated two
> different style transfer implementations, and possibly more will follow.
>
> Feel free to take a look at the code and try it. Just keep in mind that it
> is an highly experimental plugin, it is not meant for regular end users.
>
> Let me know if you find any errors that should be fixed.
>
> [1] https://github.com/Davide-sd/GIMP-style-transfer
>
> Davide.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Business usage of GIMP

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Hi Ivan,

from the official FAQ:

Can I use GIMP commercially?
Yes, you can. GIMP is free software, it doesn’t put restrictions on
the kind of work you produce with it.

https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#can-i-use-gimp-commercially

And if you save money with Gimp, feel free to donate some of the saved money:
https://www.gimp.org/donating/


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Tobias

Am Di., 19. Feb. 2019 um 16:04 Uhr schrieb Edgar Iván López via
gimp-developer-list :
>
> Greetings,
>
> My name is Ivan Lopez and I have been using your amazing software for a
> while now.
>
> I have a question, and want to apologize in advance in case this is not the
> correct place to send a message to.
>
> I have recently been working on the company communication area and have
> proposed to my manager that we change from our editing software (MS
> PowerPoint) to GIMP, since we sometimes need to cut and apply corrections
> to some images.
>
> We contacted HQ and it told us there would be no problem changing, but it
> asked for us to contact the software's company for confirmation of usage in
> business environments.
>
> We do not sell ads or things related, the only thing we would use your
> software for is in-company communication of events photos, meetings,
> posters and so on.
>
> I would very much appreciate your response, and wish for you to keep up the
> great work!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ivan Lopez,
> HR Specialist
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gtk4

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Hi,

from where do you have the information it is almost done? Ff I look
into this blog post I don't expect it weeks:
https://blog.gtk.org/2019/02/08/report-from-the-gtk-hackfest-in-brussels/

Regards,
Tobias

Am Mi., 13. Feb. 2019 um 01:25 Uhr schrieb Massimo Fidanza via
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>
> Now that Gtk4 is almost done, Gimp 3 will continue target gtk+3 or will
> switch to Gtk4? If sticking with gtk+3 how difficult will be targeting
> Gtk4?
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Contribute to OSX-specific features and bug fixes

[Tobias Jakobs]

2018-03-28 7:51 GMT+02:00 Carmelo DrRaw :
> Hello everybody,
>
> OSX is my primary platform for work and for development, and I have a fairly 
> good experience in developing GTK applications for OSX. Therefore I can offer 
> some help to solve bugs and do checks of GIMP on Mac.
> I cannot guarantee a very fast feedback all the time, but I will do my best.
>
> There are actually two major things I can offer:
> * try to fix OSX-specific bugs - I can compile GIMP from sources, and I know 
> how to run a debugger…

Here you can find a list with all macOS bugs:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED_status=NEW_status=ASSIGNED_status=REOPENED_status=NEEDINFO=Other_id=299713_sys=Mac%20OS=Importance=GIMP_format=advanced

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Re: [Gimp-developer] The new bug report dialog

[Tobias Jakobs]

Perhaps it would help to add the undo stack to the text in the pop-up dialogue.

Regards,
Tobias

2018-02-20 19:20 GMT+01:00 Elle Stone :
> I just filed four bug reports generated by the new bug report dialog.
>
> The new bug report dialog pops up fairly often, though I haven't filed bugs
> for most of the times it's popped up. Are there some guidelines for using
> this new pop-up dialog?
>
> For example, for the bug I just filed related to solid noise, searching the
> auto-generated text, the word "solid" is on four different lines: lines 101,
> 144, 393, 436. If I didn't know for sure that this particular bug report
> pop-up really was from running the solid noise filter, it's not likely that
> I'd have looked at lines 101, 144, 393, and 436 or known what to put in the
> subject line of the bug report.
>
> In other words, is there a place in the print-out where people can reliably
> look to see what action caused the bug report dialog to pop up, that's
> appropriate to put in the subject line, and perhaps appropriate for
> searching for duplicate bug reports?
>
> And should people file bug reports for *all* such pop-up bug reports? For
> the solid noise bug report, that's reliably repeatable (even though the
> filter seems to work just fine). But for the other three bugs I just filed,
> I had to search through the text to make a guess as to what actually made
> the bug report pop-up appear.
>
> Best,
> Elle
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Proposal: rename Symbolic icon themes to Symbolic-Light and Symbolic-Dark

[Tobias Jakobs]

>
> Even better would be to suport a piece of descriptive text included in
> the theme, but I'm not sure how it would get translated.
>
Even better would be an example icon. Then we don't need to care about
the wording that much.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Darktable plug-in in GIMP - Darktable for Windows?

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hi Sven,

have a look at line 114 from file-darktable.c:
> // TODO: check if darktable is installed
https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/tree/plug-ins/file-darktable/file-darktable.c#n114

It is at least on the ToDo list to not show this import on Windows.

Regards,
Tobias


2016-04-20 6:46 GMT+02:00 Sven Claussner :
> Hi,
>
> sorry if I'm asking the wrong question but I feel I have to.
> Since 18.04.2016 there is a raw importer plug-in in GIMP master
> that calls darktable to do its job. With the same commit
> the GEGL NEF importer was disabled which is a quite clear sign
> of the devs' preferences.
> On the one hand it is great we have proper import for raw
> files in GIMP and darktable is indeed a great application for
> raw processing. On the other hand I see that up to 90% of the PC
> users are Windows users, for instance see these [statistics].
> In the past the darktable devs refused to provide a Windows build
> for understandable reasons of maintenance and even didn't want to
> hear about Partha's Windows build (see the latest discussion about
> this on the darktable dev mailing list in February 2016). The latter
> makes it also very difficult to discuss Windows related bugs
> which will definitely come.
> So, it seems GIMP and Darktable are now trapped - how are
> 90% of the GIMP users supposed to import raw files with an
> application that will probably never support their platform?
> What has led to this decision?
> Did anybody compare the various ways to import raw files
> into GIMP (GEGL, darktable, ufraw, photoflow etc.)?
>
> Greetings
>
> Sven
>
>
> [statistics]
> https://netmarketshare.com/
> http://www.statista.com/statistics/268237/global-market-share-held-by-operating-systems-since-2009/
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC/Outreachy 2016

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hello Romaissa,

I'm not a Gimp developer. But one thing you could try is to ask the
Gnome Photo developer. They use GEGL too. Perhaps they need help.

Regards,
Tobias

2016-03-04 16:09 GMT+01:00 Romaissa Kitouni :
> Greetings!
>
> I am a student from Constantine 2 university, Algeria. I have been a
> Gimp user for nearly ten years, and I got interested, more recently, in
> its development and more generally in open source work. After
> successfully building gimp, I have been going through the code and
> trying to solve some issues, though I can't say I am very successful
> for the time being, as it takes some time for me to understand both the
> object system and the transformation algorithms.
>
> As it is already this time of the year, I have taken a look at
> organizations for Google Summer of Code or Outreachy programs, and it
> seems Gimp isn't a part of it this year.
>
> My question is: would it be acceptable to submit a proposal to work on
> gimp through another related organization (like Gnome project?). If
> yes, which ones? I am aware there has to be mentors available for each
> project, so I thought asking directly would be better.
>
> As I have been lurking in the community for some weeks, it seemed to me
> that the main needs right now are the porting of Gimp
> filters/operations to GEGL, and solving some usability issues. More
> generally, I went through this page a few times http://wiki.gimp.org/wi
> ki/Hacking:GSoC/Future/Ideas, and I would be very grateful to have the
> input of more experimented developers on which ideas are the more
> relevant right now to work on (not necessarily in an internship
> program). Any kind of advices would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks in advance for your inputs!
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Re: [Gimp-developer] New symbolic icon themes

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hi,

you can tell Inkscape the object id to export, have a look into the man page:

https://inkscape.org/de/doc/inkscape-man.html

inkscape --file=scalable.svg --export-png=gimp-tool-pencil.png
--export-id=gimp-tool-pencil

Regards,
Tobias

2016-01-26 14:06 GMT+01:00 Kevin Payne :
> I have taken the the symbolic scalable.svg file and manually extracted all 
> the objects into individual files (if anyone knows how to script Inkscape to 
> do this automatically I'd be very interested)
>
>
> Then using the icon-list.mk file mentioned here: 
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750105#c9 and a Script-Fu script, 
> I've attempted to auto-generate all the icons in the required sizes.
>
>
> This reveals that gimp-frame and gimp-texture icons are missing from 
> scalable.svg.
>
>
> Also, it seems that the icon for "Restore Tool Preset" which used to be 
> GTK_STOCK_REVERT_TO_SAVED has been changed to "preferences-system" and is now 
> being rendered as a missing icon (demonstrated using commit 2cd687a)
>
>
> Kevin
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Re: [Gimp-developer] xdg-app; was: WGO Transition Meeting

[Tobias Jakobs]

2015-11-17 16:43 GMT+01:00 Elle Stone :
> On 11/17/2015 08:44 AM, Elle Stone wrote:
 Would glib and etc also need to be in the mix somehow?
>>>
>>> Yes, I expect that glib, gtk+ etc., and lcms would be in the build as
>>> well. Although you might want talking to someone with more experience
>>> instead.
>>
...
>
> OK, what next?

Hi,

a short search (google) for "build statically linked binary linux" gave me this:

make SHARED=0 CC='gcc -static'
https://www.duksta.org/archives/2009/06/10/building-static/

gcc -o foo main.o -static -lbaz -lbar
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14842268/how-to-create-static-binary-which-runs-on-every-distro

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Tobias
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Re: [Gimp-developer] A new curious guy is coming

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hi Ilphrin,

glad you want to help! It is no problem, that English is not your first
language. Most of the Gimp developer are not native English speaker.

There is an Wiki page, that may help you with getting started:
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Main_Page

And there are some easy tasks marked in the bugzilla with the GNOME-love
tag:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=keywords%3Agnome-love+product%3A%22GIMP%22+

I would suggest that you:
1. Find something that you are interested in.
2. Try to compile the latest developer version from git.
3. Talk about your planned solution (IRC or this Mailing list)
4. Code (Try to fix something small to get into the code.)
5. Add a Git-Patch to a bug in bugzilla.

Regards,
Tobias

2015-07-04 22:24 GMT+02:00 Kevin Pellet ilph...@autistici.org:

 Hi all,

 I am Kevin (aka Ilphrin, I prefer Ilphrin), I am a 19 years old student
 in IT (at Epitech in France). I really love free softwares, and as I
 know the C language, I thought it could be great to give my humble
 assistance to help developing Gimp. I use Gimp since 5 years now, but
 just to do some fixes on photos or colorizing some line arts. I do not
 have an advanced knowledge on Gimp as a user, but I love learning new
 things so I often search a new way to do something with Gimp (and other
 softwares).

 I would code for Gimp, but as I don't really know where to start, I
 thought it would be better if I would be subscribed to this mailing list
 to introduce myself. By the way, I'm not exactly bilingual so if there
 is some strange things I write, remember that English is not my first
 language :-) (but I should not make so many mistakes).

 Have a nice day/night!

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 --
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[Gimp-developer] Siggraph 2014

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hello,

the Siggraph has this year (again) some nice papers. Especially the paper
Image completion using planar structure guidance [1] looks like a nice
challenge for the GSoC next year.
What do you thing, should we add it to the list of GSoC ideas in the wiki?

Regards
Tobias

[1]
http://www.siggraph.org/learn/open-access-s2014-conference-proceedings#Image%20Tricks
[2] http://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Hacking:GSoC/Future/Ideas
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Does anyone want to administer GIMP's continuous integration server (Jenkins)?

[Tobias Jakobs]

2014-08-13 20:44 GMT+02:00 scl scl.gp...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 we have a continuous integration system (Jenkins based) that we use to
 check that our commits to GIMP, GEGL, babl, etc.  build ok and tests
 run properly.
 As I'm leaving the project asap it needs a new maintainer.
 If nobody steps up, then it will have to be abandoned.


What happened, why do you want to leave the project?

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Fwd: Gimp Registry Future

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hi,

Richard Hughes wrote a specification to add meta-information to plugins:
http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2014/06/11/application-addons-in-gnome-software/

I think this could be useful for Gimp plugins and the Gimp Registry.

Regards
Tobias



2014-04-13 21:57 GMT+02:00 scl scl.gp...@gmail.com:

 On  9.4.2014 at 5:42 PM Ingo Lütkebohle wrote:

 If anybody could put up a wiki page for that, that'd be great. Does The
 GIMP have a wiki?


 Hi,

 I've just created that page, see
 http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Plugin_registry

 Kind regards,

 Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows symlink

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hi,

Hartmut already reported it to bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730206

Regards
Tobias



2014-05-16 13:42 GMT+02:00 Partha Bagchi parth...@gmail.com:

 In the tests.c file, we use symlink( (link_target, link_name);

 However, symlink does not exist on Windows mingw.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Fwd: Gimp Registry Future

[Tobias Jakobs]

2014-04-09 13:04 GMT+02:00 SorinN nemes.so...@gmail.com:

 Can be taken - but a web(designer/developer) need good specs before
 starting this task.

 There are plenty of CMS'es on the wild - most of them with many ready-made
 modules Joomla / Word Press/ CMSMS - they are the easy to implement (and
 not hard to modify).

 Drupal is solid and well documented for peoples who need to develop plugins
 on their own - especially security things...


I think, if Ingo is talking about plugins, he is talking about Gimp plugins
and not about plugins in CMS systems.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Fwd: Gimp Registry Future

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hi!

2014-04-09 14:14 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Prokoudine 
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com:

 On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Ingo Lütkebohle wrote:
  Alexander,
 
  the Registry currently has support for uploading binary plugins, so those
  could be downloaded over the interface as well.
 

 It's a wee bit more complicated. Think of e.g. security concerns.
 Sure, you can sit down and analyze the code of every submitted plugin,
 but this solution is not scalable, and a scalable solution (as in
 automated check for exploits) is likely to be expensive.


But this is not a new problem. If you at the moment download anything from
the registry and install it, it could destroy your system. This should not
stop us from improving it.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on Steam

[Tobias Jakobs]

2014-03-07 2:06 GMT+01:00 Simon Budig si...@budig.de:

 As for pushing: I did not use that word in my mail. However, it is
 easy to imagine that gimp availability on steam might convince people to
 create an account, if only for the oh-so-convenient auto-updates. And
 immediately we are in the situation I use as the base for my
 considerations.


Simon is right, auto-updates are nice. I think GIMP should implement an
auto-update function for Windows. Perhaps the code for this can be copied
from Firefox.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC update

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hi,

is it only GIMP or GEGL too?
Do we have enough manpower and money to start a GimpSummerOfCode?


Regards
Tobias



2014-02-24 19:41 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Prokoudine 
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 Our organization application has been rejected.

 Let's get cracking nevertheless :)

 Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Feature Request: FULL SCREEN (preview) mode for layer.

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hi


2014-02-25 20:41 GMT+01:00 stp s...@gmx.ch:

 f11 is not really a fullscreen.


 I mean a fullscreen like e.g. in irfanview (for windows), ENTER. ENTER -
 it
 displays the picture using the whole screen.


You can configure the fullscreen in Gimp. If you hit F11 in Gimp and then
disable everything in the View menu, this will be saved for the
fullscreen mode.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Hello GIMP developers, I am a student who is willing to join GSoC 2014

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hello Robroo,

the first step is always to be able to build the latest Gimp version from
GIT[1]. Then as a starter project you could port filters to GEGL[2], or fix
one of the bugs with the Gnome Love keyword[3].

And here you can find a nice developer FAQ:
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Developer_FAQ#What_should_I_know_when_starting_with_open_source_development.3F

Btw, the fastest way to get feedback is to use the Gimp IRC channel.

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[1] http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux
[2] http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Porting_filters_to_GEGL
[3]
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=keywords%3Agnome-love+product%3A%22GIMP%22+


2014/1/23 Robroo Somkiadcharoen robroo...@gmail.com

 Hello GIMP developers,

  My name is Robroo Somkiadcharoen. I am Thai and currently studying in
 Computer engineering major at Mahidol University International College as a
 second year student. I use Java as my primary language and C as a
 secondary. I have tried and used GIMP for many times when I'm on UNIX
 systems and It was wonderful. However, I am willing to participate in GSoC
 2014 for the first time. I would like to find out whether I am eligible for
 the program or not. Would you please suggest me recommended project ideas
 at my level to work with GIMP.

 Regards,
 Robroo Somkiadcharoen

 PS. I'm not sure about how my message got eaten maybe because of a smiley
 emoticon from Gmail app on Android. I am sorry for inconvenience.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Search Action dialog feature

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hello Peter!

2014/1/14 peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net

 Srihari Sriraman wrote:

  Have we had a chance to look into this?

 OK, I have looked at that spec.

... (removed lines about the stomach)



 the problem with TITo is that as it stands now it is a
 conflicted mix of two intentions:

 1) a help system via text search to learn using GIMP

 2) a command-line system for operating GIMP


Can you tell us which feature is 1) and which is 2)?


 some note:

 - yes, for me 1) maps to ‘give these guys a break’ and 2) to
  ‘completely misguided’ sort term _and_ long term;
 - if you are serious about “Text-based Intent driven Tool”
  then you have to build a synonym list for all keywords,
  in all localisations; else you are just bluffing;


Why? All command lines I use (Windows Start searchbox, Gnome 3 searchbox,
Firefox Actionbar, the Terminal, a searchbox in the ERP-System at work)
work nice without a synonym list for keywords. I think a synonym list could
even be annoying, because it could give me too much search results.


 - with different people working on it, I suspect they have
  different intentions, or are conflicted internally themselves;


Can you give us some examples?


 - since TITo is right now a random mix of 1) and 2), it is
  really not working for either intentions; things implemented for
  1) get in the way of 2) (and vice versa);


Can you give us some examples? (I'm repeating myself.)


 ... (removed more lines)



 some more things that are very important:

 - even if TITo response time is instant, keyword formulation -
   typing in a text based interface is not exactly fast;
   please drop the ‘its fast’ argument;


Sorry, but all command line text based interfaces I use are feeling fast to
me. Why do you expect it to be different in GIMP?


 - I read in the bug report that peple are contemplating changing
   labels of menu items to help TITo to perform better;
   that is the most dangerous thing I have heard in a long while;


Here I'm 100% with you.


 - if anyone is serious about solving how to help serious GIMP
   users with faster use of plugins and other sprawling stuff,
   let me know; it can be designed...


 I'm not a programmer, but I'm interested in the solution you would provide.


Regards,
Tobias
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Search Action dialog feature

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hello Peter,

thank you for this mail. It answers all my questions and I think it is very
productive. Perhaps even both 1) and 2) can be implemented as two separate
systems.

Regards
Tobias

2014/1/15 peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net

 Burnie West wrote:

  On 01/14/2014 03:13 PM, Chris Mohler wrote:
  Staying with the same example, then English menu entry is 'Chromium
  Web Browser'.  When switching to Spanish or Chinese, the 'Chromium'
  remains the same while 'Web Browser' is translated.
  I read peter's objection to the requirement that the entire language
 translation process would be impacted, making maintenance nearly impossible.

 I actually did not say that. I do not see it that way.

 and instead of going into the smaller points that are being raised
 in the replies to my previous post, I am going concentrate on
 the main point.


 Structuring the design process is ‘half the work’ in my daily
 practice and in order to enable the TITo situation to turn
 from negative to positive, I will contribute this:


 1) the people who are really driving this (Srihari Sriraman and
  Jehan Pagès I believe) have to take a hard choice; is TITo

 a) a help system via text search to learn using GIMP

 b) a command-line system for operating GIMP

 these things are mutually exclusive (too long to explain, but see below...)
 and that is why there is no fudging possible. Make the choice
 and write it at the top of the spec page (“TITo is ...”)

 2) remove from the spec (and the code) everything that belongs
  to what you chose TITo _not_ to be (not to worry, I will point
  out what will have to go).

 examples:

 if you chose TITo to be a) (a help system) then things that
 belong to b) have to go. this include the 2-char command thing
 and the f-recency prioritisation (or, you will need to change that
 for learning situations so much that you would not recognise it
 anymore).

 if you chose TITo to be b) (a command-line system) then things
 that belong to a) have to go. this includes verbose explanations
 when showing the actions that match the query string.

 3) now you have to design TITo, for the goal you set.

 examples:

 if you chose TITo to be a) (a help system) then you must build
 a bridge to the docs.gimp.org (in the right localisation); there
 are many ways to do this. as I said before, if you are serious
 about “Text-based Intent driven Tool” then you have to build a
 synonym list for all GIMP command keywords, in all localisations;
 since this is open source, I recommend you design a system where
 users playfully add synonyms themselves to their own localisation
 (which is then shared across the GIMP community).
 also you need to concentrate on teaching users where they find
 the thing they have queried in the UI (show it, not say it),
 instead of invoking it.

 if you chose TITo to be b) (a command-line system) then
 you need to design a super-fast input method, maybe permanently
 available if users chose so. and you need to design a command
 language (a difficult job I would not like to take on, even if
 they paid me double); the current 2-char lets-see-if-we-get-lucky
 is simply not going to cut it.

 4) we review the spec, and adjust until you have something that
 realises you stated goal.

 5) implement. you can do this before, during or after you
 write your spec. the spec however is authoritative, and at
 the moment that you want TITo to be included in a GIMP
 release, that implementation most match the spec. no fudging
 with less or more features.

 when you have successfully taken steps 1–5 you can get
 TITo into the standard GIMP release. if you decline, or
 are unable, to complete any steps, then as far as I am
 concerned TITo will not get into the standard GIMP release.

 in that case you better think of how TITo can be distributed
 as a user-installable add-on. in that case you can also
 make TITo whatever you want (it is a free world), because
 it no longer reflects on the GIMP project how it turns out.

 --ps

 founder + principal interaction architect
 man + machine interface works

 http://blog.mmiworks.net: on interaction architecture



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Re: [Gimp-developer] Zernike Research Plug in - Multiple Aberrations on Image

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hello Mustafa,

I don't think, that anybody will write the plugin for you. That's not
because no body is interested, but the developers are busy working on
the next Gimp version. If you have programming questions feel free to
ask them here or even better via IRC.

Here you can find information, that can help you to start writing a plugin:
http://developer.gimp.org/writing-a-plug-in/1/index.html  (Perhaps a
little bit outdated.)
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Users:Beginner_Developer%27s_FAQ
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Plugins

Regards
Tobias

2013/8/28 Mustafa Umut Sarac mustafaumutsa...@gmail.com:
 I am new to programming but I must write an research plug in to select
 multiple zernike aberrations and see them on one image , one by one and
 stacked. I am not after correction but want to understand lenses.

 Can you write me a plug in for single zernike polynomial and let me start
 from there.

 I will write for complete zernike polynomials and share for free.

 Best wishes,

 Mustafa Umut Sarac
 Istanbul
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Carlos Zubieta's GSoC Status

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hi Carlos,

nice to read your update! I'd like to see updates here on the mailing
list from other GSoC students too.

Regards
Tobias


2013/7/14 Carlos Zubieta czubieta@gmail.com:
 Hi everyone,

 This is a report of my gsoc work's status until now.

 -Already ported
 Color-to-alpha
 Weighted-blend
 Contrast-curve (Partial)
 Box-max
 Box-min

 -Working on
 Porting gegl-random (sort of) to GPU using Random123 [1]
 Porting dot
 Porting color-rotate

 -Next to port (Once I finish the random module since all this ops use
 random numbers)
 Color-reduction
 Noise-rgb
 Noise-hurl
 Noise-slur
 Noise-cie-lch

 I've been working locally but I'm going to push all my work to the
 corresponding branch this week (I'm still a little n00b with git :P).

 If anyone have suggestions/questions don't hesitate to email me.

 Cheers,
 Carlos Z.

 [1] http://www.deshawresearch.com/resources_random123.html

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[Gimp-developer] Xamarin-gtk-theme module for Gimp

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hi,

I've just seen, that Xamarin has released Xamarin Studio[2] with an
xamarin-gtk-theme[1] module, that lats it look more native on MacOS X. I
don't have a Mac, but perhaps it's a good idea to use it to improve Gimp on
MacOS.

Regards
Tobias

[1] https://github.com/mono/xamarin-gtk-theme
[2]
http://blogs.gnome.org/kris/2013/02/25/xamarin-studio-about-the-work-done-under-the-hood/
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Re: [Gimp-developer] lcms high bit depth update: getting closer, but undo doesn't work

[Tobias Jakobs]

 On 11/24/12, Elle Stone l.elle.st...@gmail.com wrote:

 Turns out it wasn't the babl files after all, and it wasn't any Gimp
 code, either. I didn't write the gegl iterators correctly (thank you
 Mike Henning for writing the patch and showing how the iterators
 should be written!).



Hello Ellen,

with all this changes and the recent work in git it looks very promising.
Thank you and every one from the Gimp Team who help for this work. Could
you perhaps give us short status update about what is now working and what
is still missing?

Kindest regards,
Tobias
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Update on my Gimp color management coding efforts

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hello Elle!

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Elle Stone l.elle.st...@gmail.com wrote:

 I apologize for the long delay in posting an update. Alas, the only
 enlightenment I have found during that long delay is that to make
 further progress I will need help from someone well-versed in
 Gimp/Babl/Gegl/Cairo code.


I think that is an good idea and I can see four ways to get this happen:

1. Linux Color Management Hackfest 2012 in Brno, Czech Republic
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/OpenIcc/Events/Hackfest/2012
There you could meet Øyvind Kolås (Pippin)

2. Libre Graphics Meeting 2013 in Madrid, Spain
http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2012/2012/06/lgm-2013-dates-and-venue/
This is the best place to meed more then one Gimp Developer.

3. Fly to a developer.
Afaik most Developers are in Europe.

4. Invite an Developer to your place.

My last information is, that the Gimp project has money to sponsor the
flights so don't hesitate to ask.

Kindest regards,
Tobias
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Work with a MEDION Graphic tray

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hello,

does it work with other graphic programs and only Gimp is an exception
or is it a general problem?

German:
funktioniert es mit anderen Programmen und nur Gimp ist eine Ausnahme
oder is es ein generelles Problem?

Regards,
Tobias

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Jakob Neumann esel...@arcor.de wrote:
 Hello!
 My English is not the best, so I'll write my Question in German and in
 English.
 I hope anyone of your team can speak German...

 English:
 I've got a problem with my MEDION graphic tray (MSN:5503 9347).
 I want to draw in grayscale with my Windows 7 computer.
 In Windows XP it was no problem, but I cant do that under Windows 7.
 I think that it's the driver, wich supports the graphic tray
 as a mouse instead of a graphic tray.
 I have asked MEDION already, but they said, I have to
 ask the software producers.
 Thank you for your help!
 Jakob Neumann

 German:
 Ich habe ein Problem mit meinem MEDION Grafiktablett (MSN:5503 9347).
 Ich möchte gern unter Windows 7, so wie es damals unter XP kein Problem war,
 in Graustufen zeichnen.
 Leider bekomme ich das unter Windows 7 nicht mehr hin.
 Ich vermute mal, dass es am Treiber leigt, welcher das Grafiktablett
 scheinbar als Maus, und nicht als Grafiktablett erkennt.
 Ich habe mich schon an MEDION gewandt, habe aber nur
 gesagt bekommen, ich soll mich an Softwarehersteller wenden.
 Vielen Dank für Ihre Hilfe!
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Re: [Gimp-developer] 2GB limit on Resource Consumption: Tile cache size

[Tobias Jakobs]

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Elle Stone l.elle.st...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...

 The warning says that the type for the tile cache size is gint,
 which means 2GB really is the limit. At least on my system. To check
 the maximum that gint can hold on my system, I added in a printf
 statement in the lcms plug-in code that I'm working on, to print out
 G_MAXINT, which turns out to be 2GB. See
 http://developer.gnome.org/glib/stable/glib-Basic-Types.html#G-MAXINT:CAPS.

 As anything greater than 2GB exceeds the limit of what gint can
 hold, I don't see how setting anything greater than 2GB through
 Preferences actually gets you more than 2GB.

For me, as a not C developer, it looks like this should be changet to
guint or even better guint64. But lets wait what Mitch things about
this.

Regards
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Re: [Gimp-developer] New Participant

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hello Raul,

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Raul Gallegos raul@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everybody, i am just a new participant of the list and wanted to say
 hello to all of u :) . I am a posgraduate student in Sao Paulo University
 in the Computer Science Department, i have a B.S. in Computer Science as
 well, and am very passionate in Computer Graphics and Visualization.

 I am here to help and get involved, so please take me into account [?]. If
 anyone want me to help in some area, please let me know.


I have collected some links that could help you to get started with Gimp:

First off all, there is an Beginner Developer's FAQ:
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Users:Beginner_Developer%27s_FAQ

Then there is the roadmap where you can see the bigger plan:
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Roadmap

3. There is a List of Gimp filters, that needs to be ported to GEGL (Nice
work to get into the code.):
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Porting_filters_to_GEGL

4. Some bugs in Bugzilla (Gimps bug tracking system) have the GNOME-love
tag. This are easy tasks for beginners.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=keywords%3Agnome-love+product%3A%22GIMP%22+

Look at all this. If you find some thing that you are interested in talk
about your plans via IRC or this Mailinglist.

Happy hacking,
Tobias
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Re: [Gimp-developer] McGimp 2.8 - Mac Native Version

[Tobias Jakobs]

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Partha Bagchi parth...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mitch,

 Thanks! for fixing the bug with rounded rectangle select and friends!!
 I have been testing Gimp 2.8 with this fix and so far no issues.

Nice, that sounds like we need an 2.8.1 release. :)

Regards,
Tobias
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Work for new contributors (news from 2012-05-04)

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hello Conley,

there is an Wiki page, that may help you with getting started:
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Main_Page

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Conley Moorhous
conleymoorh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would like to start contributing to GIMP. I was going to start with an old
 enhancement request on bugzilla, but I don't know my way around the source
 code yet. Someone on irc suggested I check the news on gimp.org from
 2012-05-04, about porting little things.

 So, how can I help?

There are some easy tasks marked in the bugzilla with the GNOME-love tag:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=keywords%3Agnome-love+product%3A%22GIMP%22+

I would suggest that you:
1. Find something that you are interested in.
2. Talk about your planned solution (IRC or this Mailing list)
3. Code
4. Add a Git-Patch to a bug in bugzilla.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] wilber in the toolbar

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hi Alexandre

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:

 ... is there a reason we add a Wilber logo to the
 top of the toolbar?

AFAIK, the Wilber is a hint, that you can drag and drop files in this
window, to open this image. This makes the UI consistent with the No
Image Window.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] new heal tool in gimp 2.8

[Tobias Jakobs]

I think the better way is to fix the tool and send a patch.

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:01, Miroslav Talasek
miroslav.tala...@seznam.czwrote:

 and can i do it configurable ? and send u patch ?



 On 04/27/2012 10:54 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Miroslav Talasek wrote:

 Any results ?
 and could u tell me why we change healing algo ?

 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/**show_bug.cgi?id=630028https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630028

 And no, it's not configurable.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Fwd: gimp 2.8rc heal tool

[Tobias Jakobs]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 04:43, mikehenn...@eclipse.net wrote:

 I played around with the healing brush a bit after seeing this, and I
 noticed that if the brush (destination, where you're painting) is even
 partially off canvas it doesn't heal, which is somewhat annoying.

 It might be a separate issue from what Miroslav is reporting, but it might
 explain some odd issues.

 There is already an bugreport for this problem, have a look at bug 568098:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=568098

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp.org IE10 Compatibility (Microsoft) (Ref# 679773)

[Tobias Jakobs]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 08:10, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.com wrote:

 The w3c markup validation service also has various complaints about
 http://gimp.org. See:


 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.gimp.orgcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0

 Is the web contents available in a git repo?

 Yes, you can find it here:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp-web/

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Re: [Gimp-developer] How to add our code into GIMP's GIT

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hello and welcome to the Gimp,

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:17, Zhang Peixuan zhangpeixuan...@gmail.com wrote:
  We are very willing and very much hope to be able to add our code for
 GIMP.

I'm just curious, who is we.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] An important tool missing in GIMP

[Tobias Jakobs]

Hello,

can you explain, what a Shape Tool is and what you need it exactly for?

Regards,
Tobias

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 09:33, Muhammad Younis myou...@gmx.com wrote:
 Hello!

 I've been using GIMP for sometime now. And I would like to thank all the
 developers for making such wonderful software and distributing it for free.
 But I wanted to point developers' attention to an important tool that is
 missing in GIMP. It is the Shape Tool. It's a really useful tool in making
 designs. So it would be great if you can kindly develop this tool and
 include it in the next release of GIMP.

 Thank you
 Regards
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