Re: [Gimp-developer] [ANNOUNCE] GIMP 2.10.20, babl 0.1.78, GEGL 0.4.24

2020-06-12 Thread wwp
Hello Øyvind,


On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 19:21:28 +0200 Øyvind Kolås  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM wwp  wrote:
> > Is it normal if all files in babl and gegl sources archives are from
> > epoch origin (Jan 1 1970)?
> >
> > Not sure if it's related, but ninja-build fails when I attempt to build
> > babl or gegl here (CentOS 7, ninja 1.7.2):
> >  ninja: error: manifest 'build.ninja' still dirty after 100 tries
> >
> > A recursive `touch` in the sources tree did solve it.  
> 
> Not sure what is going on, maybe something is odd on your system - I
> haven't heard
> of such an issue before, and the tarballs themselves do seem fine:
> 
> $ tar tvf babl-0.1.78.tar.xz | tail -n3 ; tar tvf gegl-0.4.24.tar.xz | tail 
> -n3
> -rw-r--r-- pippin/pippin950 2020-06-07 19:38 
> babl-0.1.78/tools/introspect.c
> -rw-r--r-- pippin/pippin518 2020-06-07 19:38 babl-0.1.78/tools/meson.build
> -rw-r--r-- pippin/pippin   5941 2020-06-07 19:38
> babl-0.1.78/tools/trc-validator.c
> -rw-r--r-- pippin/pippin   14034 2020-06-07 21:11
> gegl-0.4.24/tools/operation_reference.c
> -rw-r--r-- pippin/pippin   24479 2020-06-07 21:11
> gegl-0.4.24/tools/operations_html.c
> -rwxr-xr-x pippin/pippin2701 2020-06-07 21:11
> gegl-0.4.24/tools/xml_insert.sh

Well.. you're right, it seems that unpacking the archives using `mc`
goes with wrong file dates (using a plain `tar cJf` is fine). This is
the first time I encounter this issue, I'll see w/ the `mc` guys, maybe
something is specific with those babl/gegl archives, maybe it's a bug
on `mc`'s side or whatever.

The ninja error seems quite common when file date is "abnormal", anyway
I could workaround it. Thanks!


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Re: [Gimp-developer] [ANNOUNCE] GIMP 2.10.20, babl 0.1.78, GEGL 0.4.24

2020-06-12 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM wwp  wrote:
> Is it normal if all files in babl and gegl sources archives are from
> epoch origin (Jan 1 1970)?
>
> Not sure if it's related, but ninja-build fails when I attempt to build
> babl or gegl here (CentOS 7, ninja 1.7.2):
>  ninja: error: manifest 'build.ninja' still dirty after 100 tries
>
> A recursive `touch` in the sources tree did solve it.

Not sure what is going on, maybe something is odd on your system - I
haven't heard
of such an issue before, and the tarballs themselves do seem fine:

$ tar tvf babl-0.1.78.tar.xz | tail -n3 ; tar tvf gegl-0.4.24.tar.xz | tail -n3
-rw-r--r-- pippin/pippin950 2020-06-07 19:38 babl-0.1.78/tools/introspect.c
-rw-r--r-- pippin/pippin518 2020-06-07 19:38 babl-0.1.78/tools/meson.build
-rw-r--r-- pippin/pippin   5941 2020-06-07 19:38
babl-0.1.78/tools/trc-validator.c
-rw-r--r-- pippin/pippin   14034 2020-06-07 21:11
gegl-0.4.24/tools/operation_reference.c
-rw-r--r-- pippin/pippin   24479 2020-06-07 21:11
gegl-0.4.24/tools/operations_html.c
-rwxr-xr-x pippin/pippin2701 2020-06-07 21:11
gegl-0.4.24/tools/xml_insert.sh

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Re: [Gimp-developer] [ANNOUNCE] GIMP 2.10.20, babl 0.1.78, GEGL 0.4.24

2020-06-12 Thread Cristian Secară
În data de Fri, 12 Jun 2020 09:47:03 +0200, Michael Schumacher a scris:

> The installer software being used is Innosetup:
> https://jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php
> 
> If you happen to know if and how this can be made to use Unicode, then
> please let us know - I think I asked about that once, and while it may
> seem possible, there were some pitfalls. Jernej might know more about
> this.

Perhaps by just using a year 2020 version ?

Quote from https://jrsoftware.org/isdl.php:

===
Change in default behavior: Starting with Inno Setup 6 there's only one version 
available: Unicode Inno Setup. Unicode Inno Setup has been available for 9 
years but in case you have not yet updated to it: please see the Unicode Inno 
Setup topic in the help file for more information. Basically, unless you're 
using [Code] to make DLL calls with string parameters you shouldn't have to 
make any changes to your script.
===

Cristi

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Re: [Gimp-developer] [ANNOUNCE] GIMP 2.10.20, babl 0.1.78, GEGL 0.4.24

2020-06-12 Thread Michael Schumacher


On 6/12/20 9:18 AM, Cristian Secară wrote:
> În data de Fri, 12 Jun 2020 03:02:08 +0300, Ell via gimp-developer-list a 
> scris:
>
>> Sorry about that.  There are a few characters in the Romanian
>> translation (namely ??, ??, and ??) that can't be converted to the
>> encoding the installer uses (Windows-1250).  If there are some other
>> characters you can use instead that are supported by Windows-1250, we
>> could add the translation.
>
> No, I don't want to alter my language because of an impotent software. It is 
> inadmissible in year 2020 to stick to an 8-bit character encoding, whatever 
> that encoding is. Or perhaps GIMP is supposed to be installed on Windows 
> 95/98/ME too ?

The installer software being used is Innosetup:
https://jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php

If you happen to know if and how this can be made to use Unicode, then
please let us know - I think I asked about that once, and while it may
seem possible, there were some pitfalls. Jernej might know more about this.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] [ANNOUNCE] GIMP 2.10.20, babl 0.1.78, GEGL 0.4.24

2020-06-12 Thread wwp
Hello,


On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 16:51:26 +0300 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-developer-list 
 wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> We've just released GIMP 2.10.20 with usability improvements, new
> features, and bug fixes. Just like always, the release is accompanied
> by new releases of babl and GEGL libraries.
> 
> Here's release notes with screenshots and whatnot :)
> 
> https://www.gimp.org/news/2020/06/11/gimp-2-10-20-released/
> 
> For a full list of changes, please see the respective NEWS files.
> 
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/blob/master/NEWS
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/babl/-/blob/master/NEWS
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gegl/-/blob/master/docs/NEWS.txt

Is it normal if all files in babl and gegl sources archives are from
epoch origin (Jan 1 1970)?

Not sure if it's related, but ninja-build fails when I attempt to build
babl or gegl here (CentOS 7, ninja 1.7.2):
 ninja: error: manifest 'build.ninja' still dirty after 100 tries

A recursive `touch` in the sources tree did solve it.


Regards,

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Re: [Gimp-developer] [ANNOUNCE] GIMP 2.10.20, babl 0.1.78, GEGL 0.4.24

2020-06-12 Thread Cristian Secară
În data de Fri, 12 Jun 2020 03:02:08 +0300, Ell via gimp-developer-list a scris:

> Sorry about that.  There are a few characters in the Romanian
> translation (namely ??, ??, and ??) that can't be converted to the
> encoding the installer uses (Windows-1250).  If there are some other
> characters you can use instead that are supported by Windows-1250, we
> could add the translation.

No, I don't want to alter my language because of an impotent software. It is 
inadmissible in year 2020 to stick to an 8-bit character encoding, whatever 
that encoding is. Or perhaps GIMP is supposed to be installed on Windows 
95/98/ME too ?

(quote from & reply here to the other message)

> Heh, looks like the list isn't crazy about them either :)  It's:
> [...]

No, it's not the list, but just a great company that deserves the fate of 
bankruptcy. By looking at the header of your message, among other things its 
states:
===
Reply-To: Ell 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
===

us-ascii ? That is 7-bit. You cannot write _correctly_ in *any* non-English 
language by using this Yahoo-encoding.

Cristi

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Re: [Gimp-developer] [ANNOUNCE] GIMP 2.10.20, babl 0.1.78, GEGL 0.4.24

2020-06-11 Thread Ell via gimp-developer-list



On 6/12/20 3:02 AM, Ell via gimp-developer-list wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/12/20 2:30 AM, Cristian Secar?? wrote:
>> ??n data de Thu, 11 Jun 2020 16:51:26 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via 
>> gimp-developer-list a scris:
>>
>>> We've just released GIMP 2.10.20 with usability improvements, new
>>> features, and bug fixes. Just like always, the release is accompanied
>>> by new releases of babl and GEGL libraries.
>>
>> Installer for Windows does not offer Romanian language for install process, 
>> in spite of the fact that the installer language file is 100% translated
>> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gimp/gimp-2-10/po-windows-installer/ro/
>>
>> Why ?
> 
> Sorry about that.  There are a few characters in the Romanian
> translation (namely ??, ??, and ??) that can't be converted to the encoding
> the installer uses (Windows-1250).  If there are some other characters
> you can use instead that are supported by Windows-1250, we could add the
> translation.

Heh, looks like the list isn't crazy about them either :)  It's:

U+021A (Latin Capital Letter T with Comma Below)
U+021B (Latin Small Letter T with Comma Below)
U+0219 (Latin Small Letter S with Comma Below)

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Re: [Gimp-developer] [ANNOUNCE] GIMP 2.10.20, babl 0.1.78, GEGL 0.4.24

2020-06-11 Thread Ell via gimp-developer-list



On 6/12/20 2:30 AM, Cristian Secar?? wrote:
> ??n data de Thu, 11 Jun 2020 16:51:26 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via 
> gimp-developer-list a scris:
> 
>> We've just released GIMP 2.10.20 with usability improvements, new
>> features, and bug fixes. Just like always, the release is accompanied
>> by new releases of babl and GEGL libraries.
> 
> Installer for Windows does not offer Romanian language for install process, 
> in spite of the fact that the installer language file is 100% translated
> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gimp/gimp-2-10/po-windows-installer/ro/
> 
> Why ?

Sorry about that.  There are a few characters in the Romanian
translation (namely ??, ??, and ??) that can't be converted to the encoding
the installer uses (Windows-1250).  If there are some other characters
you can use instead that are supported by Windows-1250, we could add the
translation.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] [ANNOUNCE] GIMP 2.10.20, babl 0.1.78, GEGL 0.4.24

2020-06-11 Thread Cristian Secară
În data de Thu, 11 Jun 2020 16:51:26 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via 
gimp-developer-list a scris:

> We've just released GIMP 2.10.20 with usability improvements, new
> features, and bug fixes. Just like always, the release is accompanied
> by new releases of babl and GEGL libraries.

Installer for Windows does not offer Romanian language for install process, in 
spite of the fact that the installer language file is 100% translated
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gimp/gimp-2-10/po-windows-installer/ro/

Why ?

Cristi

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[Gimp-developer] [ANNOUNCE] GIMP 2.10.20, babl 0.1.78, GEGL 0.4.24

2020-06-11 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-developer-list
Hello,

We've just released GIMP 2.10.20 with usability improvements, new
features, and bug fixes. Just like always, the release is accompanied
by new releases of babl and GEGL libraries.

Here's release notes with screenshots and whatnot :)

https://www.gimp.org/news/2020/06/11/gimp-2-10-20-released/

For a full list of changes, please see the respective NEWS files.

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/blob/master/NEWS
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/babl/-/blob/master/NEWS
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gegl/-/blob/master/docs/NEWS.txt

Alex
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