Re: [Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-06-03 Thread Robert Abel
Hi,

I just wanted to butt in here:

On 29.05.2012 19:02, gfxuser wrote:
 Could your Windows regionale and language settings be wrong and cause
 this mixture? I read of a similar problem with Portuguese and English
 (see
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimponosx/forums/forum/761056/topic/3454274)
 and the reason were wrong system settings.
The thread indicates a problem with Gimp and specifically with the
locale fallback logic, not a configuration error.

It is not an error to just specify a language without a region. The
locale fallback should *never* produce a language mix with a third
language (German in the thread). It should use the default fallback
language, which should be English (probably US English).

Portuguese (BR) should fall back to Portuguese, which in turn falls back
to default.

So either the GIMP translations for Portuguese regions were never
properly made -- so there in fact is *no* Portuguese version and just
Portuguese regional versions, which is a *mistake* -- or the fallback
mechanism is simply misbehaving on MacOS.

You should check the latest version of Gimp and see if this error still
occurs, then file a bug report.

Regards,

Robert Abel
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-06-01 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On 31 May 2012 19:19, Partha Bagchi parth...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno gwid...@mpc.com.br wrote:

 Last I checked, there is no native PyGTK+ for Windows 64bit, due to
 the fact the binary signatures used by GCC in win 64 (used in gobject,
 gtk+) and visualstudio (used for Python) are different.



   js

 Not true. This was one of the reasons that I started my own builds. In
 my build, Python is 64-bit.

 Partha

I am glad to know that --
so it is a matter of configuring the Windows builds.


  js
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-05-31 Thread Kevin Cozens

On 12-05-29 11:55 AM, Jernej Simončič wrote:

Neither - PyGimp on Windows is always 32-bit, so I suspect it's
looking for translations relatively to the 32-bit DLL directory.


If a person wants to compile GIMP for 64-bit why is pygimp still only 
32-bit? Known compatability issues? No one has gotten around to testing 
64-bit? Or could it be as simple as no one has bothered to update the build 
method for pygimp?


It seems odd to me to mix 32-bit and 64-bit in parts of a program that all 
come out of the same source tree.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-05-31 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On 31 May 2012 12:53, Kevin Cozens ke...@ve3syb.ca wrote:
 On 12-05-29 11:55 AM, Jernej Simončič wrote:

 Neither - PyGimp on Windows is always 32-bit, so I suspect it's
 looking for translations relatively to the 32-bit DLL directory.


 If a person wants to compile GIMP for 64-bit why is pygimp still only
 32-bit? Known compatability issues? No one has gotten around to testing
 64-bit? Or could it be as simple as no one has bothered to update the build
 method for pygimp?

 It seems odd to me to mix 32-bit and 64-bit in parts of a program that all
 come out of the same source tree.


Last I checked, there is no native PyGTK+ for Windows 64bit, due to
the fact the binary signatures used by GCC in win 64 (used in gobject,
gtk+) and visualstudio (used for Python) are different.

I do not use Windows, and have no idea if this has changed. Since
pyGIMP works as an off-process plug-in, if it works, it is the way to
go, because there would not be a feasible work-around.

I intend to research and update pygimp to use gobject introspection
during gimp 2.9 - maybe that can allow for  a 64bit version of it on
Windows.

(It is important to note that such problems do not happen under Linux
- and that there are other problems due to not using gobject
introspection under mac os x)

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[Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-05-29 Thread Anke Lange

Hello list,

I have come across some differences in the translation of Gimp into 
German. For example:


The palettes kontex-menue, on the linux, everything is in German. On 
windows, there is still some english.


On the gradient-dialog, on Windows you can open a new picture, on Linux 
the translation is correkt.


These are just little thinks, but I ask myself, if there are two 
different languagepacks for linux and for windows and if I could help 
with this somehow.


Anke



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Re: [Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-05-29 Thread Anke Lange

Sorry, there was one wrong link

Am 29.05.2012 13:38, schrieb Anke Lange:

Hello Michael

I've got some screenshots:

http://ws.kreativ-workshops.net/gimp2-8/screens-windows/farbverlaeufe.jpg
http://ws.kreativ-workshops.net/gimp2-8/screens-windows/kontexmenuePalette.jpg 



That is part of Gimp 2.8 isn't it?

I knwo, that the person I've got the screenshots from does run a kind 
of brushmanager called gurmp (?) Could it be possible, that it does 
have an effect on gimp-translations?


Anke 


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-05-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 13:25:21, Michael Schumacher wrote:

 I don't see any English menu entries in 2.8.0 on Windows, except
 for third-party scripts and plug-ins - and that is expected.

There's a problem with Python scripts on 64bit Windows currently -
they always appear in English.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-05-29 Thread Michael Schumacher
 Von: Jernej Simončič jer...@ena.si

 On Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 13:25:21, Michael Schumacher wrote:
 
  I don't see any English menu entries in 2.8.0 on Windows, except
  for third-party scripts and plug-ins - and that is expected.
 
 There's a problem with Python scripts on 64bit Windows currently -
 they always appear in English.

Some of these scripts seem to include untranslated strings.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-05-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 14:47:53, Michael Schumacher wrote:

 Some of these scripts seem to include untranslated strings.

It happens even with those that have translations.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-05-29 Thread Kevin Cozens

On 12-05-29 08:13 AM, Jernej Simončič wrote:

There's a problem with Python scripts on 64bit Windows currently -
they always appear in English.


Is that due to a bug in pygimp or in some 64-bit version of a library (ie. 
gettext) used by pygimp?


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Different Languagepacks Linux/Windows?

2012-05-29 Thread gfxuser

Anke Lange wrote:


I have come across some differences in the translation of Gimp into 
German. For example:


The palettes kontex-menue, on the linux, everything is in German. On 
windows, there is still some english.

Hi Anke,

I just tried with 2.8 on Windows and everything is in German.

On the gradient-dialog, on Windows you can open a new picture, on 
Linux the translation is correkt.

You're right. This is confusing for two reasons:
1. 'open' and 'new' are two different things. 'New' means to create 
something not yet existing, while 'open' expects anything that's already 
there.
2. Hovering over the second icon in the button bar at the dialogs bottom 
I read 'Ein neues Bild erstellen'.  First, it's very unexpected to 
create a new _image_ from a _gradient_ dialog, second it opens the 
gradient editor dialog. So, it should be 'Einen neuen Farbverlauf 
erstellen'. The en_us translation is right: 'Create a new gradient'. 
This simply seems to be an error in German translation.


Could your Windows regionale and language settings be wrong and cause 
this mixture? I read of a similar problem with Portuguese and English 
(see 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimponosx/forums/forum/761056/topic/3454274) 
and the reason were wrong system settings.


Trying to reproduce this behaviour I found another confusing item: in 
the gradient context menu there is an item 'Save as CSS...' in the 
German translation. Selecting it opened an English dialog for the 
underlying Python script (I have a 32-bit Windows). I guess both still 
need to be translated. Shall I report a bug for this?


Best regards,

grafxuser
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