Re: [Gimp-developer] Sourceforge downloads
If we could clarify what is happening and if the GNOME foundation can indeed help, this would be good. Looking at the sidebar on the Summary page there is this notice: Hey, this isn't a SourceForge project! Check out the SourceForge Open Source Mirror Directory for more information. It also appears that the account the project page belongs to is sf-editor1, and a lot of well known projects are listed on the user page: http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor1/ I'm also noticing VLC on that list, which abandoned SF as well if memory serves me right. The box in the sidebar links to http://sourceforge.net/mirror/ and explains that they are mirroring popular open-source projects which are not already on SF or no longer maintained. The last section claims they want to hear if you don't want your project mirrored on our site and points to the email address: communityt...@sourceforge.net Then again, all they are saying is that they are willing to listen, not necessarily that they will do anything about it... I wasn't already subscribed to this mailing-list, so bear with me if I messed up the addresses or missed some replies which were not yet shown on the archive page. Sebastian Wahl ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Sourceforge downloads
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Michael Schumacher schum...@gmx.de wrote: On 05/27/2015 10:02 PM, Pat David wrote: https://sourceforge.net/blog/gimp-win-project-wasnt-hijacked-just-abandoned/ SF claims abandonment of the project, and no response from the maintainer. Of course, they may not consider a request to CD the delivery of the project as a response... Over all that, let's not forget the wrapper installers. Which seem to have been removed silently now - and are not being mentioned at all in their blog post. The phrasing they use in the post is «Mirrored projects[those that they take over] are sometimes used to deliver easy-to-decline third-party offers,». What should happen is this: 1. take back control of the http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-win/ project page, 2. decommission the project (remove files, text, documents, etc). It looks like SourceForge is too desperate to monetize since they have lost their edge to github. There is no future to Sourceforge. Simos ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Sourceforge downloads
This makes it all the more important to update the Windows download page on GIMP.org to provide easy download. I will submit patches this week based on our previous discussions, now that I have all the text (thanks Michael). I think providing easy access through our GIMP.org site will hasten SF to its timely grave. Possibly without the need for litigation. On 28 May 2015 07:49, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Michael Schumacher schum...@gmx.de wrote: On 05/27/2015 10:02 PM, Pat David wrote: https://sourceforge.net/blog/gimp-win-project-wasnt-hijacked-just-abandoned/ SF claims abandonment of the project, and no response from the maintainer. Of course, they may not consider a request to CD the delivery of the project as a response... Over all that, let's not forget the wrapper installers. Which seem to have been removed silently now - and are not being mentioned at all in their blog post. The phrasing they use in the post is «Mirrored projects[those that they take over] are sometimes used to deliver easy-to-decline third-party offers,». What should happen is this: 1. take back control of the http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-win/ project page, 2. decommission the project (remove files, text, documents, etc). It looks like SourceForge is too desperate to monetize since they have lost their edge to github. There is no future to Sourceforge. Simos ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Sourceforge downloads
On 27 May 2015 at 09:49, Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com wrote: It also appears that the account the project page belongs to is sf-editor1, and a lot of well known projects are listed on the user page: http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor1/ As I openned the profile for that page to check the list projects it said GIMP for Windows: last upodated 4 minutes ago - and the downlaod file thre nw feature today's date. Maybe due to our contacts they have just changed the kind and nature of the malware shipped with the installer. js -- ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Sourceforge downloads
https://sourceforge.net/blog/gimp-win-project-wasnt-hijacked-just-abandoned/ SF claims abandonment of the project, and no response from the maintainer. Of course, they may not consider a request to CD the delivery of the project as a response... On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:46 AM Sebastian Wahl spiller...@gmail.com wrote: Even if they give us back the control of the account and say oups sorry, our bad, that was a mistake, I vote for GIMP to first stop using Sourceforge at all (and too bad for broken links), do as much noise as possible for other projects to leave it and stop using it, and maybe more. I agree, if it hadn't been because they unbeknown to us had updated the installer, the links would be pointing to an old version anyway. I think it is better to have broken links and force people do a quick google search, than having users install old versions with fewer features and more bugs. And are you now? I received it because I am in direct Cc, but others have not apparently (according to IRC). Your message is probably in moderation. I did get a mail saying it was currently in moderation. I have subscribed, but I sent it from a different email address by accident. Sebastian Wahl ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Sourceforge downloads
On 05/27/2015 10:02 PM, Pat David wrote: https://sourceforge.net/blog/gimp-win-project-wasnt-hijacked-just-abandoned/ SF claims abandonment of the project, and no response from the maintainer. Of course, they may not consider a request to CD the delivery of the project as a response... Over all that, let's not forget the wrapper installers. Which seem to have been removed silently now - and are not being mentioned at all in their blog post. -- Regards, Michael GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
[Gimp-developer] Sourceforge downloads
The Sourceforge gimp-win downloads are now pointing to a 730K downloader: http://i.imgur.com/ImWKmHN.png Should this site be closed down entirely (assuming it is still under the control of someone related to Gimp development)? There are still plenty of links pointing to it, and it would be better for them to be invalid instead of pointing to this crap? ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Sourceforge downloads
Hi, On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno gwid...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 May 2015 at 12:08, Jernej Simončič jer...@ena.si wrote: On Tuesday, May 26, 2015, 8:40:08, Ofnuts wrote: Should this site be closed down entirely (assuming it is still under the control of someone related to Gimp development)? There are still plenty of links pointing to it, and it would be better for them to be invalid instead of pointing to this crap? SourceForge has taken the gimp-win project control away from me (apparently due to inactivity, although they haven't done anything like that with a few other inactive projects I'm a member of), and so far they haven't responded to the message I sent them to cease the distribution of the installer. Eek! Wow. I'm seeing a few 2.8.14 downloads (a tar.bz2 and a .exe) in there, from September of 2014, hence *after* we said we would not use Sourceforge anymore and have all the installers on our servers (and bittorrent). Are we saying that while taking over the account, Sourceforge created its own archives of GIMP for Windows? That is quite a nasty scenario- we have the former project host to have apropriated itself of being the target of download links to actively distribute malware with GIMP brand. I think that if some (not many) communication attempts go unresponded this is an issue where we should tap on Gnome Foundation and check whether there are legal resources we can lay hand on to get them to stop it Yes if that is what I understand, this is clearly an impersonation of the official GIMP team. The GPL license allows anyone to do forks of GIMP, or do alternative packages. But that does not give them the right to pretend to be the official upstream (which is clearly what is happening). And if they install something else, they are also using the brand name of GIMP to install other stuff (malwares? adware?), which is clearly not acceptable either. If we could clarify what is happening and if the GNOME foundation can indeed help, this would be good. Jehan js -- -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ To err is human, but it feels terrific. -- Mae West's Observation ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Sourceforge downloads
On 26 May 2015 at 12:08, Jernej Simončič jer...@ena.si wrote: On Tuesday, May 26, 2015, 8:40:08, Ofnuts wrote: Should this site be closed down entirely (assuming it is still under the control of someone related to Gimp development)? There are still plenty of links pointing to it, and it would be better for them to be invalid instead of pointing to this crap? SourceForge has taken the gimp-win project control away from me (apparently due to inactivity, although they haven't done anything like that with a few other inactive projects I'm a member of), and so far they haven't responded to the message I sent them to cease the distribution of the installer. Eek! That is quite a nasty scenario- we have the former project host to have apropriated itself of being the target of download links to actively distribute malware with GIMP brand. I think that if some (not many) communication attempts go unresponded this is an issue where we should tap on Gnome Foundation and check whether there are legal resources we can lay hand on to get them to stop it js -- -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ To err is human, but it feels terrific. -- Mae West's Observation ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
