Re: [Gimp-gui] Suggestion about the loading window
Hi, On 2017-09-23 14:39, marty wrote: It seems a small percentage are worried about the professionalism of the appearance of Gimp when using it in specific settings. Perhaps one of you could create a cloud directory with alternate splash files and concerned parties could simply overwrite the local splash directory with those contents. Much the same could be done for other aspects like icons if the app file structure follows typical norms. Does licensing forbid this? I doubt it, but don't know off hand. Licensing doesn't forbid this, quite the opposite. And we have code to allow this. For splash screens for instance, the link I gave earlier actually explains how you can already use any custom splashscreen on your installation: https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/ GIMP also allows anyone to install their own themes and icons, and have done so for years (just search the web for custom themes for GIMP, you have tons of these). Only thing is that there is not much of a central place for these. There used to be the registry but it's down now because of spam and lack of maintainance. One of my project has been for years to create a "plug-in management" system, so that people can search for any kind of resource, be it plug-ins, extensions, brushes, themes, icons, patterns, scripts… and install, uninstall and update them in a single click directly from GIMP itself (and resource creators would have a place to upload their creation). For the records, if I were to be able to work full-time on GIMP and Free Software (which is kind of a failed attempt for now), this would definitely be done by now. So I encourage anyone who want to see these kind of projects happen in GIMP to contribute to our crowdfunding (see below the Patreon and Tipeee links for ZeMarmot project). :-) Jehan Rgds, Marty G On 09/23/2017 08:04 AM, gregory grey wrote: Some stuff in https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/ [1] is just atrocious. Pretending you don't see that yourself is just insulting. You do realize that "fun" and "7 years old level of aesthetics" is not the same? One of the things I dig about Darktable is that I can show it to PS/LR users without being laughed at. It's the icons story all over again. On Sep 23, 2017 2:37 AM, "Jehan"wrote: Hi, On 2017-09-22 16:29, Fulvio Massimo Mariani wrote: Hello. For the record, I had to manually accept your email because you are not subscribed to the mailing list. If you want further emails to be directly sent to the list subscriber (and not bother admins who have to manually accept emails), please consider subscribing: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list [2] My name is Fulvio. I’ve been a Gimp fan since a lot of time ago (I’m a graphic designer and I do not how to use Photoshop, consider this). I just downloaded the 2.9 version of the software and checked the new features and UI. All looks nice (and font loading is now much faster), but please, and this is the purpose of the post, consider to use a neat, minimal Logo opening. The actual loading window is not at the level of the software and its specs. Look for a designer to draw and compose a minimal/material Design for your app loading screen, because of the perception of the app starts from this screen (the actual loading window is not goo, really). I assume you mean the splash image? What don't you like in it? That it is not serious enough? Though in theory I don't really disagree that some kind of fancy "simple/minimal" design can be nice, I don't believe this to be that important. We had by the past people wanting to make GIMP a "product", something "professional looking" and whatnot. And this one experience I am thinking about was not a pleasant experience to me, at all. In the end, I appreciate that some people can have some fun while making GIMP (especially since it's done on most parts as voluntary work) rather than making boring corporate images. As long as the software itself is actually good, professional and does well what it is supposed to do, does it really matter that the splash image is usually a fun image contributed by various artists? This is even more true for 2.9 which is a dev version (therefore allows even more fun), but even stable versions used to have more or less interesting/funny designs: https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/ [1] This being said, as I said, our splash screens are indeed contributed by various artists and we definitely welcome more contributions there. If you want to propose a splash for a next dev version, please be our guest. Next splash could be yours. :-) Yet know that it won't stop us from also accepting other funky splash images when they will be contributed as well. Have a nice day. I just wanted to suggest something) Thanks for this. This mailing list is indeed the right venue to propose a splash screen for a further version. We look forward to any contribution from you or any artist (painter, designer, photograph…)
[Gimp-gui] R: Suggestion about the loading window
Hello Jehan, thanks for the answer. I could not register because of the system said my email was not secure (???). Anyway. I’d like to specify that i wrote only because of I’m a proud fan of Gimp and making the splash screen (yes, is what i meant) a little bit cooler and fashion in a minalistic way was not a way make critics to the GIMP/GNU philosophy. I said this only because of the whole 2.9 looked to me cool (black and gray), minimal and really professional, so I thought a minimal splash screen would be the natural consequence of such a chosen style for the 2.9 (dev and stable version?). @Gregory, I’m not so severe like you, but a sleek UI is nice, both to use and to present to clients, I agree with this. May be I’ll be back whit a proposal. Thanks for the consideration and aswers at all. Fulvio. Inviato da Posta per Windows 10 Da: gregory grey Inviato: sabato 23 settembre 2017 14:04 A: Jehan Cc: gimp-gui-list@gnome.org; Fulvio Massimo Mariani Oggetto: Re: [Gimp-gui] Suggestion about the loading window Some stuff in https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/ is just atrocious. Pretending you don't see that yourself is just insulting. You do realize that "fun" and "7 years old level of aesthetics" is not the same? One of the things I dig about Darktable is that I can show it to PS/LR users without being laughed at. It's the icons story all over again. On Sep 23, 2017 2:37 AM, "Jehan"wrote: Hi, On 2017-09-22 16:29, Fulvio Massimo Mariani wrote: Hello. For the record, I had to manually accept your email because you are not subscribed to the mailing list. If you want further emails to be directly sent to the list subscriber (and not bother admins who have to manually accept emails), please consider subscribing: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list My name is Fulvio. I’ve been a Gimp fan since a lot of time ago (I’m a graphic designer and I do not how to use Photoshop, consider this). I just downloaded the 2.9 version of the software and checked the new features and UI. All looks nice (and font loading is now much faster), but please, and this is the purpose of the post, consider to use a neat, minimal Logo opening. The actual loading window is not at the level of the software and its specs. Look for a designer to draw and compose a minimal/material Design for your app loading screen, because of the perception of the app starts from this screen (the actual loading window is not goo, really). I assume you mean the splash image? What don't you like in it? That it is not serious enough? Though in theory I don't really disagree that some kind of fancy "simple/minimal" design can be nice, I don't believe this to be that important. We had by the past people wanting to make GIMP a "product", something "professional looking" and whatnot. And this one experience I am thinking about was not a pleasant experience to me, at all. In the end, I appreciate that some people can have some fun while making GIMP (especially since it's done on most parts as voluntary work) rather than making boring corporate images. As long as the software itself is actually good, professional and does well what it is supposed to do, does it really matter that the splash image is usually a fun image contributed by various artists? This is even more true for 2.9 which is a dev version (therefore allows even more fun), but even stable versions used to have more or less interesting/funny designs: https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/ This being said, as I said, our splash screens are indeed contributed by various artists and we definitely welcome more contributions there. If you want to propose a splash for a next dev version, please be our guest. Next splash could be yours. :-) Yet know that it won't stop us from also accepting other funky splash images when they will be contributed as well. Have a nice day. I just wanted to suggest something) Thanks for this. This mailing list is indeed the right venue to propose a splash screen for a further version. We look forward to any contribution from you or any artist (painter, designer, photograph…) who has an idea for a nice splash screen. :-) Jehan Inviato da Posta [1] per Windows 10 Links: -- [1] https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 ___ gimp-gui-list mailing list gimp-gui-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list -- ZeMarmot open animation film http://film.zemarmot.net Patreon: https://patreon.com/zemarmot Tipeee: https://www.tipeee.com/zemarmot ___ gimp-gui-list mailing list gimp-gui-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list ___ gimp-gui-list mailing list gimp-gui-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list
Re: [Gimp-gui] Suggestion about the loading window
Am Samstag, 23. September 2017, 14:04:58 CEST schrieb gregory grey: > Some stuff in https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/ is just atrocious. > Pretending you don't see that yourself is just insulting. You do realize > that "fun" and "7 years old level of aesthetics" is not the same? One of > the things I dig about Darktable is that I can show it to PS/LR users > without being laughed at. Unless it's April 1st. [...] Tobias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ gimp-gui-list mailing list gimp-gui-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list