Re: [Gimp-gui] Suggestion about the loading window

[Ofnuts]

On 09/22/17 16:29, Fulvio Massimo Mariani wrote:


Hello.

My name is Fulvio.

I’ve been a Gimp fan since a lot of time ago (I’m a graphic designer 
and I do not how to use Photoshop, consider this).


I just downloaded the 2.9 version of the software and checked the new 
features and UI.


All looks nice (and font loading is now much faster), but please, and 
this is the purpose of the post, consider to use a neat, minimal Logo 
opening. The actual loading window is not at the level of the software 
and its specs. Look for a designer to draw and compose a 
minimal/material Design for your app loading screen, because of the 
perception of the app starts from this screen (the actual loading 
window is not goo, really).





Since no-one mentioned it yet:

In "gimp --help":

        -s, --no-splash Do not show a splash screen



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Re: [Gimp-gui] Suggestion about the loading window

[Jehan]

Hi,

On 2017-09-23 14:39, marty wrote:

It seems a small percentage are worried about the professionalism of
the appearance of Gimp when using it in specific settings.  Perhaps
one of you could create a cloud directory with alternate splash files
and concerned parties could simply overwrite the local splash
directory with those contents.  Much the same could be done for other
aspects like icons if the app file structure follows typical norms.
Does licensing forbid this?  I doubt it, but don't know off hand.


Licensing doesn't forbid this, quite the opposite.

And we have code to allow this. For splash screens for instance, the 
link I gave earlier actually explains how you can already use any custom 
splashscreen on your installation: https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/


GIMP also allows anyone to install their own themes and icons, and have 
done so for years (just search the web for custom themes for GIMP, you 
have tons of these).


Only thing is that there is not much of a central place for these. There 
used to be the registry but it's down now because of spam and lack of 
maintainance. One of my project has been for years to create a "plug-in 
management" system, so that people can search for any kind of resource, 
be it plug-ins, extensions, brushes, themes, icons, patterns, scripts… 
and install, uninstall and update them in a single click directly from 
GIMP itself (and resource creators would have a place to upload their 
creation).


For the records, if I were to be able to work full-time on GIMP and Free 
Software (which is kind of a failed attempt for now), this would 
definitely be done by now. So I encourage anyone who want to see these 
kind of projects happen in GIMP to contribute to our crowdfunding (see 
below the Patreon and Tipeee links for ZeMarmot project). :-)


Jehan


Rgds,

Marty G

On 09/23/2017 08:04 AM, gregory grey wrote:


Some stuff in https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/ [1] is just
atrocious. Pretending you don't see that yourself is just insulting.
You do realize that "fun" and "7 years old level of aesthetics" is
not the same? One of the things I dig about Darktable is that I can
show it to PS/LR users without being laughed at. It's the icons
story all over again.

On Sep 23, 2017 2:37 AM, "Jehan"  wrote:
Hi,

On 2017-09-22 16:29, Fulvio Massimo Mariani wrote:
Hello.

For the record, I had to manually accept your email because you are
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directly sent to the list subscriber (and not bother admins who have
to manually accept emails), please consider subscribing:
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list [2]

My name is Fulvio.

I’ve been a Gimp fan since a lot of time ago (I’m a graphic
designer and I do not how to use Photoshop, consider this).

I just downloaded the 2.9 version of the software and checked the
new
features and UI.

All looks nice (and font loading is now much faster), but please,
and
this is the purpose of the post, consider to use a neat, minimal
Logo
opening. The actual loading window is not at the level of the
software
and its specs. Look for a designer to draw and compose a
minimal/material Design for your app loading screen, because of the
perception of the app starts from this screen (the actual loading
window is not goo, really).

I assume you mean the splash image? What don't you like in it? That
it is not serious enough?

Though in theory I don't really disagree that some kind of fancy
"simple/minimal" design can be nice, I don't believe this to be that
important. We had by the past people wanting to make GIMP a
"product", something "professional looking" and whatnot. And this
one experience I am thinking about was not a pleasant experience to
me, at all. In the end, I appreciate that some people can have some
fun while making GIMP (especially since it's done on most parts as
voluntary work) rather than making boring corporate images. As long
as the software itself is actually good, professional and does well
what it is supposed to do, does it really matter that the splash
image is usually a fun image contributed by various artists?
This is even more true for 2.9 which is a dev version (therefore
allows even more fun), but even stable versions used to have more or
less interesting/funny designs: https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/
[1]

This being said, as I said, our splash screens are indeed
contributed by various artists and we definitely welcome more
contributions there. If you want to propose a splash for a next dev
version, please be our guest. Next splash could be yours. :-)
Yet know that it won't stop us from also accepting other funky
splash images when they will be contributed as well.

Have a nice day.

I just wanted to suggest something)

Thanks for this. This mailing list is indeed the right venue to
propose a splash screen for a further version.
We look forward to any contribution from you or any artist
(painter, designer, photograph…) 

Re: [Gimp-gui] Suggestion about the loading window

[Tobias Ellinghaus]

Am Samstag, 23. September 2017, 14:04:58 CEST schrieb gregory grey:
> Some stuff in https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/  is just atrocious.
> Pretending you don't see that yourself is just insulting. You do realize
> that "fun" and "7 years old level of aesthetics" is not the same? One of
> the things I dig about Darktable is that I can show it to PS/LR users
> without being laughed at. 

Unless it's April 1st.

[...]

Tobias

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Re: [Gimp-gui] Suggestion about the loading window

[Jehan]

Hi,

On 2017-09-22 16:29, Fulvio Massimo Mariani wrote:

Hello.


For the record, I had to manually accept your email because you are not 
subscribed to the mailing list. If you want further emails to be 
directly sent to the list subscriber (and not bother admins who have to 
manually accept emails), please consider subscribing: 
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list



My name is Fulvio.

I’ve been a Gimp fan since a lot of time ago (I’m a graphic
designer and I do not how to use Photoshop, consider this).

I just downloaded the 2.9 version of the software and checked the new
features and UI.

All looks nice (and font loading is now much faster), but please, and
this is the purpose of the post, consider to use a neat, minimal Logo
opening. The actual loading window is not at the level of the software
and its specs. Look for a designer to draw and compose a
minimal/material Design for your app loading screen, because of the
perception of the app starts from this screen (the actual loading
window is not goo, really).


I assume you mean the splash image? What don't you like in it? That it 
is not serious enough?


Though in theory I don't really disagree that some kind of fancy 
"simple/minimal" design can be nice, I don't believe this to be that 
important. We had by the past people wanting to make GIMP a "product", 
something "professional looking" and whatnot. And this one experience I 
am thinking about was not a pleasant experience to me, at all. In the 
end, I appreciate that some people can have some fun while making GIMP 
(especially since it's done on most parts as voluntary work) rather than 
making boring corporate images. As long as the software itself is 
actually good, professional and does well what it is supposed to do, 
does it really matter that the splash image is usually a fun image 
contributed by various artists?
This is even more true for 2.9 which is a dev version (therefore allows 
even more fun), but even stable versions used to have more or less 
interesting/funny designs: https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/


This being said, as I said, our splash screens are indeed contributed by 
various artists and we definitely welcome more contributions there. If 
you want to propose a splash for a next dev version, please be our 
guest. Next splash could be yours. :-)
Yet know that it won't stop us from also accepting other funky splash 
images when they will be contributed as well.



Have a nice day.

I just wanted to suggest something)


Thanks for this. This mailing list is indeed the right venue to propose 
a splash screen for a further version.
We look forward to any contribution from you or any artist (painter, 
designer, photograph…) who has an idea for a nice splash screen. :-)


Jehan


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