[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] more GIMP foundation stuff

2004-04-29 Thread Daniel Rogers
Daniel Rogers wrote:

So, I noticed the resounding silence surrounding this thread.  Is anyone 
still interested in a foundation?  I went into this foundation thing 
thinking I had support from the community.  I cannot do this all by 
myself.  The Foundation is about getting involved.  If noone wishes to 
get involved, then there is nothing left I can do.

Here are the things left to do.

Within a week I need to get the parts in red of the draft bylaws fleshed
out at at least the majority satisfiaction of the community.  In
addition to the red parts, the membership section needs to be writtin.
The week is gone, obviously, but this still needs to be done.  I just 
lose legal support for a while after a few days, which is ok.  I just 
slows things down a bit.  Do these issues interest anyone in particular?

I need to appoint an initial board, whose job will be to set up a
membership system, start collecting members, and allow those members to
vote in a non-interim board (any takers?)
To be a little more clear: I need volunteers to be an initial board of 
directors.

I need to send in the corporate paperwork to the IRS (with the filing
fee) and wait a few months for the IRS to send some questions answer
those questions, and wait a few more months to get our non-profit status
approved.
Instead of all this though, I've been talking to Tim Ney about having
the GNOME Foundation take a more active role in supporting the GIMP.  If
GNOME was willing to do this, this would probably be a good option for
us.  Gnome already has the infrastruction and ability to act as a
non-profit, as well as plenty of corporate suppport.  What do people
think of this plan?
Again, to be a little more clear.  GNOME would like to support us more 
than just in name.  All we (e.g. more than just me) have to do is say 
yes.  It is unclear, at this point, how exactly GNOME would be involved 
with The GIMP, but those details could be worked out.  Does this 
interest anyone?  Is anyone outright opposed (and why)?

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[Gimp-user] Re: [Gegl-developer] Re: [Gimp-developer] more GIMP foundation stuff

2004-04-29 Thread Michael Schumacher
Daniel Rogers wrote:

Daniel Rogers wrote:

So, I noticed the resounding silence surrounding this thread.  Is anyone 
still interested in a foundation?  I went into this foundation thing 
thinking I had support from the community.  I cannot do this all by 
myself.  The Foundation is about getting involved.  If noone wishes to 
get involved, then there is nothing left I can do.
Well, I started to read the bylaws and was overwhelmed a bit. Being 
totally unfamiliar with stuff like this, I found it a bit too much to 
read, comprehend and evaluate in one week... maybe this happened to 
others as well?

I need to appoint an initial board, whose job will be to set up a
membership system, start collecting members, and allow those members to
vote in a non-interim board (any takers?)

To be a little more clear: I need volunteers to be an initial board of 
directors.
Might be an important question: does one have to live in the US to be 
able to become a director? (and/or president, secreatary, treasurer, ...)

Michael

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Re: [Gimp-user] Some questions about Gimp.

2004-04-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Nonexistent Entity [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Adobe OpenType is a new font standard developed jointly with MS,
   that has Type1 extra features and quality and is replacing
   TrueType.

Pango supports OpenType rather well and GIMP uses Pango for font
rendering so I wonder why it doesn't work for you.


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Re: [Gimp-user] dynamic text glow, what happened to them?

2004-04-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Linux GIMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have been using GIMP 2.0 for a while now with my Gentoo box (in case
 that factors in) and I'm wondering what happened to the dynamic text and
 glow filters?  I used the bejezus out of those things now they seem to
 be gone.  I have looked about, thinking maybe they moved, but no such
 luck.  What is the story?

The new text tool replaces the GDynText plug-in and it even attempts
to do a reasonable job at importing GIMP-1.2 GDynText layers.


Sven

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: dynamic text glow, what happened to them?

2004-04-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Linux GIMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hmm, then maybe I'm missing it, but how do I change the font size using
 the text tool in 2.0?  I found how to change the fonts  colour, but not
 font size.  Also I would say that the text tool is not near as good when
 it comes to justifying text.  It only does centered text unlike dynamic
 text which would do left, centered or right.

It's all in the text tool options and it does justification also.


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[Gimp-user] Re: Re: more GIMP foundation stuff

2004-04-29 Thread Daniel Rogers
Michael Schumacher wrote:
Daniel Rogers wrote:

Daniel Rogers wrote:

So, I noticed the resounding silence surrounding this thread.  Is 
anyone still interested in a foundation?  I went into this foundation 
thing thinking I had support from the community.  I cannot do this all 
by myself.  The Foundation is about getting involved.  If noone wishes 
to get involved, then there is nothing left I can do.


Well, I started to read the bylaws and was overwhelmed a bit. Being 
totally unfamiliar with stuff like this, I found it a bit too much to 
read, comprehend and evaluate in one week... maybe this happened to 
others as well?
Ah, well.  . .err, um. Fair enough.  I forget that I've been stewing in 
this stuff for month.  Most of this is boiler plate and echos the laws 
that we are required to follow anyway.  If anyone is overwhelmed by any 
bit of it, it is just fine to discuss what you want in normal person terms.



I need to appoint an initial board, whose job will be to set up a
membership system, start collecting members, and allow those members to
vote in a non-interim board (any takers?)
 

To be a little more clear: I need volunteers to be an initial board of 
directors.


Might be an important question: does one have to live in the US to be 
able to become a director? (and/or president, secreatary, treasurer, ...)
No.  As I think I mentioned before you don't need to live in the US or 
even have to be 18 (though you have a hard time entering contracts if 
you are less then 18 so 18 is a practical requirement).  It gets 
complicated if TGF tries to employ non-us people (though it can be 
done), however the directors should probably not be compensated anyway.

And to clarify:  there are two structures that must exist in a 
corporation.  There is the board of the directors, which make general 
descsions, are voted in by the members, can enter contracts, hire 
people, and delagate tasks to others.  The number of directors as well 
as the amount of directors that qualify as a quorum and the percentage 
that qualifies as a majority can all be set in the bylaws.

The second structure is the officers.  These are the people like the 
president, tresurer, and secratary.  The duties of these officers are 
set in the bylaws.  The president usually is respnosible for hiring and 
the day to day activities of the corporation.  The tresurer is in charge 
of the finances.  The secretary records the minutes of the board 
meetings.  The board members can be officers and are generally appointed 
by the board.  The president or the secretary can not be same person as 
the tresurer.

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[Gimp-user] bylaws discussion part 1: objectives

2004-04-29 Thread Daniel Rogers
Ok,

So I think the best way to approach this is to break the bylaws in to 
the relevent bits and encourage discussion on a single small topic at a 
time.

So, the first part that needs to be discussed are the objectives.

These are, in their way, rather important.  The objectives are what 
define the purpose of TGF as a charitable organization.  These is the 
section that the IRS looks at to determine if we even can be classified 
as a charitable organization.  There are two ways to approach this.  One 
is to determine our objectives and then, when writing to the IRS, 
explain how the objectives fit into the charitable and educational purposes.

This is pretty easy as long as we declare charitable purposes.  Phrases 
like, Support the Free Software product, The GIMP and a charitable 
service available to the public.  Educate the public about the existance 
and usage of The GIMP.  Promote and support projects that support The 
GIMP. 

We should use the words, public, charitable, educate, support 
The IRS likes those words.  They should be vague enough to not hinder 
our ability to do work.

In short, what would people like TGF to do for them or for people in 
general?

Remember, in order to be a non-profit, we need to do actions that 
support the public, not just ourselves, which I can't imagine anyone 
here having a problem with.

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