Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Branko Vukelic 
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Greg A.  wrote:
> Spent many hours of experimenting, using the guidance you gents have given
> and I've learned much.  Greatest feature of GIMP is edit, and the ability to
> go back to before whatever I've done. I used this a lot!!! But, I have
> accomplished what I hoped. Honestly, I'm not sure how I got to the point I'm
> at but I can figure it out again.  But your suggestions were invaluable and
> very much appreciated. I don't like people who download an ap then don't take
> time to read and learn but instead simply 'use' the hard earned expertise of
> others. I'll be making a donation to the developers of GIMP, as it's a
> tremendously powerful piece of software. I'm sure I'll be back with question
> in the future but for now simply, Thank You.

I suppose it won't hurt to post this link:

http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/

;)

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[Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Greg A. 

Spent many hours of experimenting, using the guidance you gents have given
and I've learned much.  Greatest feature of GIMP is edit, and the ability to
go back to before whatever I've done. I used this a lot!!! But, I have
accomplished what I hoped. Honestly, I'm not sure how I got to the point I'm
at but I can figure it out again.  But your suggestions were invaluable and
very much appreciated. I don't like people who download an ap then don't take
time to read and learn but instead simply 'use' the hard earned expertise of
others. I'll be making a donation to the developers of GIMP, as it's a
tremendously powerful piece of software. I'm sure I'll be back with question
in the future but for now simply, Thank You.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Branko Vukelic 
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Noel Stoutenburg  wrote:
> Sorry, I don't think "transform" will change the size; what you need to
> do, instead, is to select the layer you want to change, and from the
> layers menu, select "scale layer".

Sorry, I meant "transform" as a description for the shortcut "T". It's
actually a scale tool.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg 
Branko Vukelic wrote:

> Select the singer layer in layers palette, and press Shift+T
> (transform). You'll be able to scale it either by typing in the
> dimensions or using the handles.

Sorry, I don't think "transform" will change the size; what you need to 
do, instead, is to select the layer you want to change, and from the 
layers menu, select "scale layer".

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Branko Vukelic 
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Greg A.  wrote:
> Branko, you're absolutely correct.  I can see where the pic of the singer
> extends way beyond the frame to the right and on the bottom, but I can't
> figure out how to resize that pic to fit the frame?

Select the singer layer in layers palette, and press Shift+T
(transform). You'll be able to scale it either by typing in the
dimensions or using the handles.


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[Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Greg A. 
>On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Greg A.  wrote:
>>
>> I looked at Bing on stage, and that's where I want to go but then make
Bing
>> transparent so the background shows through. I appreciate your offer, if
you
>> want to give me an email address I'll send you a 2 layer pic. In my pic
you
>> can reverse the layers to see both but one is pure white whereas it's
actually
>> a pic of the singer.  If you don't want to post your email, just send it
to
>> oneonthee...@yahoo.com.
>
>It's pure white most likely because the singer pic is huge compared to
>the background image. So, when you pasted it into the background pic,
>only the white part is showing, but the new layer is extending past
>the image edge and hidden...
>
>
>

Branko, you're absolutely correct.  I can see where the pic of the singer
extends way beyond the frame to the right and on the bottom, but I can't
figure out how to resize that pic to fit the frame?

I'm not dumb but I sure feel like it right now.  And I'm suppose to be
working but am doing this band stuff cause it's more fun

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Branko Vukelic 
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Greg A.  wrote:
>
> I looked at Bing on stage, and that's where I want to go but then make Bing
> transparent so the background shows through. I appreciate your offer, if you
> want to give me an email address I'll send you a 2 layer pic. In my pic you
> can reverse the layers to see both but one is pure white whereas it's actually
> a pic of the singer.  If you don't want to post your email, just send it to
> oneonthee...@yahoo.com.

It's pure white most likely because the singer pic is huge compared to
the background image. So, when you pasted it into the background pic,
only the white part is showing, but the new layer is extending past
the image edge and hidden...


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[Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Greg A. 

I looked at Bing on stage, and that's where I want to go but then make Bing
transparent so the background shows through. I appreciate your offer, if you
want to give me an email address I'll send you a 2 layer pic. In my pic you
can reverse the layers to see both but one is pure white whereas it's actually
a pic of the singer.  If you don't want to post your email, just send it to
oneonthee...@yahoo.com.

Thanks again,

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Branko Vukelic 
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Greg A.  wrote:
> This is frustrating.  GIMP seems quite simple but obviously first discovery
> isn't intuitive. I successfully copied and layered two photos, I verify by
> reversing the layers, all good. I think I found opacity in the toolbar but I
> change it and there's no difference. I'm thinkin I'm sooo close but am just
> still missing something.  A bit more help I think, and I'll owe a bit of
> whatever you choose to alter your mood :-)

If the lead singer is on white background, and you want the background
image to show where the singer image is white, you might want to cut
the singer out of the white. I've written a tutorial on that here:

http://www.brankovukelic.com/post/526945497/effective-background-extraciton-gimp


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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg 
Greg A. wrote:

> I think I found opacity in the toolbar but I
> change it and there's no difference.

Opacity is not in the toolbar; it's in the layers dialog, accessible by 
the keyboard shortcut CTRL+L, or by selecting the "layers" item in the 
through the windows "Dockable dialogs" menu item in the menu bar of an 
image, or an empty composition window.

If you can manage to  manipulate layer visibility, opacity is the slider 
above that. In Chapter 14 of the on-line documentation (at 
, 
figure 14.1 shows where the "opacity" slider is located; the label is 
third from the top, below "layers" and "Mode".

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[Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Greg A. 
I think I'm using Gimp 2.6. I see a 2.6.9 out there maybe? Maybe a have a
version just a bit older than what you're giving me instructions for?

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[Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Greg A. 
This is frustrating.  GIMP seems quite simple but obviously first discovery
isn't intuitive. I successfully copied and layered two photos, I verify by
reversing the layers, all good. I think I found opacity in the toolbar but I
change it and there's no difference. I'm thinkin I'm sooo close but am just
still missing something.  A bit more help I think, and I'll owe a bit of
whatever you choose to alter your mood :-)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Chris Mohler 
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Greg A.  wrote:
> It maybe seems like the overlay is HUGE
> compared to the background but I can't seem to be able to resize.

That's my guess too.  Try Image->Scale image on the singer's pic and
scale it down to roughly the same size as the background pic.  Then do
your select, copy, paste as layer.

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[Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Greg A. 
Man, you're gonna think I'm a complete dumbass. If I can get this to work
once, I know I'll be ok. It appears I've copied the singer's pic onto the
background but I can't get past the white screen?  I can choose reverse layers
and my background is layer 1 but layer 2 is a complete white screen. I can't
seem to find the opacity commands? Maybe I'll experiment with 2 pix that I
know are the same size and resolution? It maybe seems like the overlay is HUGE
compared to the background but I can't seem to be able to resize. Like I said,
once I get it to work, then I can play with detail. Can't tell ya how much I
appreciate the help..

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Chris Mohler 
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Greg A.  wrote:
> I use the fuzzy select tool to highlight only the person
> in the picture, then do select all, edit, copy.

OK - so what you want to do here is fuzzy select, then copy.  Skip the
select all, or you will have to repeat the fuzzy select step after you
paste.

In other words: when you make a selection (as with the fuzzy select
tool) and copy, only the selected area is copied to the clipboard.
Make sense?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Chris Mohler 
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Greg A.  wrote:
> I follow your instructions and get a 2 layer picture but all I can see is a
> white page?

Use the layers dialog to switch layers, toggle visibility, adjust
opacity, etc.  A decent tutorial from a quick search:
http://www.tankedup-imaging.com/gimp/layers.html

The manual: http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-image-combining.html

> I can't get to the 1st layer (background). The two photos are
> different sizes and resolutions if that makes any difference.

I'd make sure the image you are pasting is smaller than or equal size
to the one you're pasting into - at least for now.  Once you get the
hang of working with layers, it won't be a big deal: if you paste a
larger image onto a smaller one, you can use the scale tool to reduce
it afterward.  But for now I suggest experimenting with similar-sized
images until you feel comfortable with the layers dialog.

HTH,
Chris
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2010-06-30 Thread Greg A. 
I just wanted to add, the photo for the top layer is our group lead singer so
there's some white space around some of the picture that needs to be deleted. 
Before I select all, I use the fuzzy select tool to highlight only the person
in the picture, then do select all, edit, copy.

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2010-06-30 Thread Greg A. 
Thanks Chris, appreciate the help.  Makes sense but I'm still having trouble.
I follow your instructions and get a 2 layer picture but all I can see is a
white page?  I can't get to the 1st layer (background). The two photos are
different sizes and resolutions if that makes any difference. It seems I'm
just missing like one step or something??? Thanks again Chris...

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg 
Greg A. wrote:

While I concur with what Chris wrote, I don't see where he mentioned 
that the transparency setting controlled by the slider in the layers 
dialog box labeled "opacity". Had I responded first, my answer would 
have been the same, but the sentence

> Delete/fade/edit/whatever you need to on the top layer.

would have said

"in the image as the layer, adjust the opacity slider to the desired 
value; if you need more intensity in the overlaid image, you can adjust 
the opacity of the background, or add additional copies of the overlayed 
image."

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Chris Mohler 
In overlay image: select->all, edit->copy.

In background image: edit->paste as new layer.

You now have an image with two layers.  Delete/fade/edit/whatever you
need to on the top layer.

HTH,
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[Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

2010-06-30 Thread Greg A. 
I'm creating a CD cover and would like to overlay a transparent photo over a
really nice background photo. I've read extensively through the manual and
have viewed tutorials so I know this can be done. I printed and tried to
follow the "How to change background of an image" without success. I've truly
tried to figure this out myself as I know too many people don't even try, they
just post for help. So, if I might ask, would someone provide the step by step
to accompish what I'm trying? I can open the two images, use fuzzy select on
the white area on the photo but then can't get it on a new layer to overlay,
and I don't know how to make the image transparent. Sorry to be asking for
help but sincerely appreciate anyone taking time to assist.  Thank you...

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