[Gimp-user] Font size

2006-05-28 Thread Paul Bloch
So I've noticed that although there are different palettes for when you're placing text (text field, font selector) I can't find anyway to edit the size of the text! The help file also doesn't even seem to mention any real methods for altering your text except in the text field. Can someone give me a hint? This is total newbie stuff but I'm a seasoned photoshop user and this is starting to feel a bit ridiculous.
Thanks,Paul
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp bundled with Computer Arts

2006-05-28 Thread Paul Bloch
I think you're riht that they haven't reviewed Gimp in about a year, although say still seem to include it on their CDs from time to time. I think it would be interesting though to actually communicate with them and perhaps structure something that would inspire developers perhaps. It seems to me that Gimp is in a tough place as perhaps it's been around long enough that many people may not think to contribute to it compared to a newer project. I don't know if you'd agree with that statement, it's just a thought. So what could do it? What could push Gimp and other open source apps over the edge with both users and developers?
I have an idea...but I'll build the suspense. ;)On 5/28/06, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2006, Julian Oliver wrote: ..on Wed, May 24, 2006 at 09:34:25PM +0100, Alan Horkan wrote:
   On Tue, 23 May 2006, Paul Bloch wrote:Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 23:55:17 -0400   From: Paul Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: GIMPUser Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu   Subject: [Gimp-user] Gimp bundled with Computer Arts  
   Hello,   So I don't know if everyone already knows this but I've seen Gimp bundled   with Computer Arts magazine's (computerarts.co.uk
) CD a few times now.For   those of you who don't know Computer Arts is a very popular design magazine   with awesome tutorials. Has anybody heard back from them or designers that
   have used the software? I'm willing to follow up and ask them about it.It   would be great to hear from a large base of pro designers about Gimp.   Pro designers you mispelled pro developers with patches or lots of
  sponsorship money:P   I'd be very surprised if readers of Computer Arts magazine had any new  comments that haven't already been discussed on the mailing list or
  discussed.   Did they include any kind of a review?Based on their past comments I'd  expect lots of criticism for not being more like photoshop.Generally  they do complain about programs for not copying or doing better than the
  market leaders.   They probably also neglected to mention features like PSPI which allows  Photoshop plugins to be used, and didn't mention the photoshop style  keybindings which can be found in psmenurc.
 Along with valid criticisms, like that of Gimp's focus model under, which (by default) continues to frustrate those that both have and haven't had experience with Photoshop. You know, where clicking on your
 maximised image instantly 'hides' the most critical component of application functionality, the Tools panel itself. I wouldn't be so hasty as to arrogantly flip-off criticisms from Computer Arts magazine.
If you are accusing me of being hasty or arrogant then you would betotally wrong.Read my comments more closely.Then read my comments overthe past few years including regular suggestions things should more
closely follow photoshop.Point is most things that can be said have been said already, and I doubtComputer Arts have anything much to add since they last reviewed Gimp 2.xbetween 12-18 months ago.It would be great if the original comment had
included some detail of whatever review/criticsm the magazine provided. If they are including the Gimp on their Magazine CD, then all the better for us.Well yes and no.More developers is what is really needed.More users
are unlikely to say much that hasn't been said already (although some ofis worth repeating) and if they have comments and criticisms it would behelpful if they would comment on the mailing list and file bug reports or
feature requests. Furthermore their criticisms are important whether you like them or not.I largely agree with a lot of their criticisms and have been trying topass on the sentiment on various occasions.Their failure to publicise
features their readers would appreciate is only partly their fault, andfor example I would very much like for it to be possible to select thepsmenurc from within the preferences dialog and it would be great if PSPI
could be included by default (but licensing issues might prevent that). They have influence on the propogation of the Gimp amongst users otherwise unaware of it's presence altogether, free software hundreds of
 people have worked on.The importance of open standards was discussed in another thread, in inthat case more users helps reinforce a standard.The other perceivedbenefit of more users is more contributors but that doesn't seem to have
work out with the development team staying about the same size for manyyears (hopefully the summer of code students will stick around after theyare finished their projects).--Alan___
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[Gimp-user] Gimp bundled with Computer Arts

2006-05-23 Thread Paul Bloch
Hello,So I don't know if everyone already knows this but I've seen Gimp bundled with Computer Arts magazine's (computerarts.co.uk) CD a few times now. For those of you who don't know Computer Arts is a very popular design magazine with awesome tutorials. Has anybody heard back from them or designers that have used the software? I'm willing to follow up and ask them about it. It would be great to hear from a large base of pro designers about Gimp.
-Paul
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Re: [Gimp-user] Mosaic of Images

2006-05-17 Thread Paul Bloch
Actually, I think there is a way to make a mosaic although I've never tried it. Funny that you asked this question because I was looking it up yesterday. There's an image mosaic plug-in for Gimp. Check out: 
http://www.kirchgessner.net/photo-mosaic.html . Let me know if you're successful at all.Cheers,PaulOn 5/17/06, Vytautas P. 
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 HI list, Is possible to make a new image based in a group of images without using copy and paste ?No___Gimp-user mailing list
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[Gimp-user] Gimp development

2006-03-01 Thread Paul Bloch
Hello,I'm an occasional Gimp user and prefessional graphic designer. I was wondering where and how do I get involved with user-interface development. I have several ideas that I think would better the experience. I'm planning on writing a longer article about usability for 
osnews.com and part of that is talking about Gimp. However I didn't want any criticism I make to suggest I have any hostility torwards the community or the project. And considering people's sentiment's torwards Gimpshop, I think it'd be best if I go about this the right way, by speaking to the development team and community first.
Thanks,Paulopenartist.net
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-01 Thread Paul Bloch
Hi,
I'm also just jumping in to this conversation. To be honest when I heard about Gimpshop I got excited about using Gimp again. I've downloaded it and have used it and having the familiar menus made it far easier for me to use the program. I think that there is a larger question that needs to be posed: What kind of beta testing is done by professional designers? I met a beta tester for Adobe, she's a professor at the School of Visual Art in NYC, andit was quite interesting to hear her talk about some of her experiences and how she talks to Photoshop developers. The relationship is pretty simple: developers cater to the needs of designers. To take an example that would also apply to Gimp, when showing us different methods she came across a tool that didn't allow you to preview the effect and she simply said,This is pretty useless, you can't see what you're doing. So there is a functional and productive criticism. Designing is a visual process obviously, if I can't see the effect, be it transforming or using a filter, it makes my job a whole lot harder and consumes more of my time via guessing, undoing, and reapplying the filter. It's like drawing with a blindfold. Anyway to make a long story slightly longer I think part of moving forward for Gimp would be to start to beta test with real professional designers, the ones who's work you admire. 


I think that Gimp's market potential isn't as an adobe REPLACEMENT, not at this point anyway, it is more of a SUBSTITUTE (there is a difference). I think it would serve better as filling the niche for those people who don't actually own a legit copy of photoshop. If peoplediscover they don't have to break the law because there is an adequate substitute that performs similarly to photoshop people will use Gimp in droves. And to add to that what Gimp can allow for is a program that can fully cater to the experience of a user. 


I think it would be awesome if you could specify gimp to hide tools that wouldn't be used by the user ie. my 4 year old niece. Maybe there could be different skins or profilesdependent on the anticipated use of the user. You could set the programmer to beginner and it would resemble MS Paint. Anyway, these are all ideas. I think the main thing is to think creatively about who Gimp's audience actually is. Right now, in all honesty, it isn't a pro designer. GImp isn't something that people in my office could use everyday. In fact, using it once they'd probably never touch it again. 


It's funny because I just signed up on this email list because I wanted to talk about this subject! As it so happens I've written a critique of some of the features from a designers/usability perspective. Where would be a good place to post it?


All the best,
Paul
openartist.net
wie.org (senior designer for the magazine)


PS: Gimp has the potential to rival Adobe Photoshop, perhaps not in features or in the number of pro users, but in the number of lay users (unregistered pirates).

PPS: I also just thought of the the use that students could have for GImp. Teachers could recommend it as a free photoshop-like alternative for finishing homework in the event they don't have a copy of it themselves. DRM techcology is going to keep getting better so it will be harder for students to obtain illegal copies in the future.


PPPS: Does anyone ever talk about how GImp literally means lame? From a branding perspective that's the worstname you could ever use. Your brand and logo is your chance to make that good first impression and rather boldly you tell potential users that you're handicapped before they even find out for themselves!

On 3/1/06, Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ross Brown wrote: If Gimp is to become a replacement for Photoshop then, whether it appears to be good practice or not, it has to accommodate its
 potential users and work as they are used to working (in the short term at least). I'm sure there are many people who will argue - and possible quite rightly - that the Gimp is not a Photoshop replacement
 but, for many, many people, it is and as more people make the move from Photoshop, surely the Gimp's relevancy, exposure and quality can only improve.I think you make a great point but I don't think improvements in Gimp's
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