[Gimp-user] Re: smart resize

2004-10-25 Thread GSR - FR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-10-15 at 0609.12 +):
  The question is tricky. And I'm very interested in a clear answer. My 
  opinion is that (sometimes) bicubic for reducing smooths the image too much.
 I found this off comp.periphs.scanners:
 http://www.xs4all.nl/~bvdwolf/main/foto/down_sample/down_sample.htm

Another similar pages talking about filtering (demo and/or code) just
in case someone wants to get deeper:

http://www.binbooks.com/books/photo/i/l/57186AF8DE
http://www.antigrain.com/
http://www.path.unimelb.edu.au/~dersch/interpolator/interpolator.html
http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/zoom.html

Basically, there are better methods than current GIMP ones (or some
other common apps, for that matter). Search yourself, not the first
time the issue of best quality (transformations, noise, colour, etc)
appears in GIMP lists.
 
 Though it doesn't tell about 'real-life' performance (PS CS's will
 likely produce 'sharper' looking image), it seems ImageMagick does the
 better thing.

Well, the typical approach to test signal processing systems is to use
some kind of simple input, mostly cos it is easier to compare with
output.

GSR
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: smart resize

2004-10-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

GSR - FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Another similar pages talking about filtering (demo and/or code) just
 in case someone wants to get deeper:

 http://www.binbooks.com/books/photo/i/l/57186AF8DE
 http://www.antigrain.com/
 http://www.path.unimelb.edu.au/~dersch/interpolator/interpolator.html
 http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/zoom.html

Perhaps you could add these links to our Wiki?


Sven

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[Gimp-user] Re: smart resize

2004-10-15 Thread Pasi Savolainen
* Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Barton Bosch wrote:
 Hey Marco, could you tell whether and why using bicubic for enlarging 
 and bilinear for reducing is better than using bicubic for both?  I was 
 under the impression that bicubic was the highest quality algorithm for 
 all resizing operations.
 

 No, I couldn't. I cannot find any reason based on a clear mathematical 
 proof.

 However I'm quite sure that bicubic is not a panacea for all resizing 
 operations. In

 http://www.msjc.edu/m2/gall/resampling-nearestbilinear/resampling.html

   is given an example of better results with Nearest Neighbour instead 
 of bicubic (because of the image nature).

 In

 http://www.mav-magazine.com/Apr1999/resample/

   is described this bilinear/bicubic option of PSP.

 The question is tricky. And I'm very interested in a clear answer. My 
 opinion is that (sometimes) bicubic for reducing smooths the image too much.

I found this off comp.periphs.scanners:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bvdwolf/main/foto/down_sample/down_sample.htm

Though it doesn't tell about 'real-life' performance (PS CS's will
likely produce 'sharper' looking image), it seems ImageMagick does the
better thing.


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