[Gimp-user] GIMP and Tablets ...endless story, I expect.

2012-02-16 Thread gerard82
Hello,

I have an Aiptek6000U tablet, for which I finally got the kernel driver
working. evtest reports what seems to be correct.


Event: time 1329324589.249332, -- Report Sync 
Event: time 1329324589.265320, type 3 (Absolute), code 0 (X), value 155
Event: time 1329324589.265326, type 3 (Absolute), code 1 (Y), value 19
Event: time 1329324589.265328, type 3 (Absolute), code 24 (Pressure),
value 511
Event: time 1329324589.265332, type 1 (Key), code 331 (Stylus), value 1
Event: time 1329324589.265334, -- Report Sync 
Event: time 1329324589.313317, type 3 (Absolute), code 0 (X), value 154
Event: time 1329324589.313325, type 3 (Absolute), code 1 (Y), value 22
Event: time 1329324589.313328, -- Report Sync 
Event: time 1329324589.321342, type 3 (Absolute), code 1 (Y), value 23
Event: time 1329324589.321352, -- Report Sync 
Event: time 1329324589.345308, type 3 (Absolute), code 1 (Y), value 24
Event: time 1329324589.345317, -- Report Sync 
Event: time 1329324589.465290, type 3 (Absolute), code 24 (Pressure),
value 240
Event: time 1329324589.465300, -- Report Sync 
Event: time 1329324589.473289, type 3 (Absolute), code 24 (Pressure),
value 233
Event: time 1329324589.473297, -- Report Sync 
Event: time 1329324589.481287, type 3 (Absolute), code 24 (Pressure),
value 222
Event: time 1329324589.481296, type 1 (Key), code 331 (Stylus), value 0
Event: time 1329324589.481299, type 3 (Absolute), code 40 (Misc), value 33
Event: time 1329324589.481301, -- Report Sync 


X11 is configured as follows:


Section InputClass
  Identifier pen
  MatchProduct Aiptek|AIPTEK|aiptek
  MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event*
  Driver aiptek
  Option USB on
  Option Type stylus
  Option Mode absolute
  Option zMin 0
  Option zMax 511
EndSection


However, I had a hard time to get GIMP to do what I want. I configured
the tablet through Edit-Preferences-Input Devices-Configure Extended
Input devices-Device: Aiptek, Mode: Screen, Axes: X-1, Y-2, Pressure-3.
Xtilt-none, Ytilt-none. Moving the Stylus cursor and pressure works. Now
to the big BUT:

To have the stylus drawing I have to press the lower button on it. This
works *sometimes*. And there is no way to stop drawing again. Plus,
switching tools is not possible, GIMP doesn't react to the keyboard
while the stylus is in use.

What I'm doing wrong? How is it supposed to work?

Kind regards

   Jan


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gerard82 (via gimpusers.com)
If you use KDE as a desktop you might wanna try kde-misc/wacomtablet.
Despite it's name it supports quite a few graphic tablets and some Aiptek 
models among them.
Gerard.
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[Gimp-user] Web development question?

2012-02-16 Thread Daniel Smith
Hey all. I would hope this might get some responses...

I just today saved my first png file.
In doing so Gimp came up with a choice box, as to parameters you can choose
or not:

Interlacing (Adam7) (whatever that is)
Save background color
Save gamma
Save layer offset
Save resolution
Save creation time

Can anyone tell me which of these options they use?
What does Adam7 mean?

I am looking to create some web pages with drupal.
Can anyone tell me their process they use to do
a similar goal? (With drupal or WP, etc.) What I'm thinking
is that certain of the settings are compatible or not with
the blogging engine or not? do you use png or jpeg?, etc.

Just wondering. Trying to get up to speed.

Thanks so much.

Dan
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Re: [Gimp-user] Web development question?

2012-02-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Daniel Smith opened...@gmail.com wrote:

 What does Adam7 mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam7_algorithm

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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Re: [Gimp-user] Web development question?

2012-02-16 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:
 Others may know uses for png that I am not aware of, but so far I
 have found no use for it in web design.

PNG is quite useful for some effects.  Say I wanted a div element to
have a gradient background - I could create a new image that's 1px
wide by the height of my div, add a gradient, export as PNG.  Then the
css would be something like:

div { background: url(/path/to/png/file) repeat-x }

..and all divs would have a gradient background, using one tiny file
(and even IE6 will comply). Quite useful for things like faux drop
shadows, rounded corners, etc. too (but newer CSS techniques are
arguably better/easier).

My general rule is: photograph - JPEG, icon/effect -PNG.  As with
every rule, there are exceptions ;)

Anyhoo, there are tons of uses for PNG in web design.  Check out a
Joomla template sometime - most of those do a crazy amount of styling
using PNG files.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Web development question?

2012-02-16 Thread Stefan Maerz
Very useful information. I'm in the habit of just pressing enter twice 
to export. :)


I've always wondered what this stuff does, so this has been an 
interesting read.


-Stefan Maerz
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Re: [Gimp-user] Web development question?

2012-02-16 Thread Xiella Harksell
On 17 February 2012 09:55, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:
 PNG is a lossless format, so unless you are saving a lot of giant
 images and run short of time, there is no reason to dial back the
 compression from the default 9.

 On 02/16/2012 03:18 PM, Daniel Smith wrote:

  I am looking to create some web pages with drupal.
  Can anyone tell me their process they use to do
  a similar goal? (With drupal or WP, etc.) What I'm thinking
  is that certain of the settings are compatible or not with
  the blogging engine or not? do you use png or jpeg?, etc.

 I usually use jpg format for nearly all web images, because
 comparable images saved in png normally have larger file sizes.  The
 most potentially interesting feature of png is that it saves
 transparency, and *nearly* all web browsers now in use understand
 how to display png images with transparent areas.  If you need a
 transparent background, and you need higher resolution or better
 scalability than the gif format provides, png might be your answer.
 Others may know uses for png that I am not aware of, but so far I
 have found no use for it in web design.

 In re transparency, most of the time you will not need it.  If you
 load the page under construction in a web browser and use the
 eyedropperin the GIMP foreground/background color tool, you can set
 the exact value to make an opaque part of your image match the page
 background exactly.


As a point of difference :)

I find myself tending to save the majority of my images (in terms of
developing the site - stripes, decorations, non-content stuff) as
PNGs.

Firstly, I make most of my images from scratch using minimal numbers
of colours to minimise load time anyway so the PNG is almost
invariably a lighter weight option.  For larger pieces such as
banners, photos, avatars, artwork, anything with lots of different
colours, I would probably use JPG.

On the transparency front, I find PNG a huge benefit over GIF.  The
obvious example is for logos/decorative images - GIFs do not have
alpha transparency, a major issue for any shape other than a
rectangle.  Another benefit to using PNGs in websites is being able to
make interesting and lightweight blocks of colour combinations using
repeat-xy backgrounds of semi-transparent images.  eg a 1px black
image at 20% transparency, etc.  I think the last time I saved
anything in GIF was for a favicon...

Xiella
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Re: [Gimp-user] Web development question?

2012-02-16 Thread Frank Gore
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Xiella Harksell xie...@gmail.com wrote:
 As a point of difference :)

 I find myself tending to save the majority of my images (in terms of
 developing the site - stripes, decorations, non-content stuff) as
 PNGs.

You're not the only one, the vast majority of professional web
designers use PNGs as a flexible way of displaying images in browsers.
The last browser I know of that didn't support PNG files properly was
IE6... and can we count how many years old that is?

--
Frank Gore
THE place to talk photography!
www.FriendlyPhotoZone.com
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Re: [Gimp-user] Web development question?

2012-02-16 Thread Steve Kinney
On 02/16/2012 05:25 PM, Burnie West wrote:
 On 02/16/2012 01:54 PM, Frank Gore wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Xiella
 Harksellxie...@gmail.com  wrote:
 As a point of difference :)

 I find myself tending to save the majority of my images (in
 terms of
 developing the site - stripes, decorations, non-content stuff) as
 PNGs.
 You're not the only one, the vast majority of professional web
 designers use PNGs as a flexible way of displaying images in
 browsers.
 The last browser I know of that didn't support PNG files properly
 was
 IE6... and can we count how many years old that is?

Usage is down to something around 5% on most sites I have seen
recent statistics for.  Considering the security aspect, it's really
not doing anyone a favor to support IE6 any more...  But the moment
I stop writing alternate style sheets for it, I just know my next
client will be running it in Win2k and asking me why the pages are
all broken and stuff.  :o)

 There is  a minor but sound reason for using png rather than jpg
 in many of
 these cases - the fact that png is lossless. It does result in
 somewhat larger
 files, but if the specific image wants to be compressed to an
 indexed-mode jpg
 for file size reasons, a png background is I believe somewhat less
 likely to
 create artifacts - or so it seems to me.

I did not know that jpg had an indexed mode.  I knew I would be
getting some interesting feedback when I posted that answer.

I have been doing this junk for so long that I developed an
automatic habit of anti-aliasing transparent gif images by hand as
per my earlier comments.  And yes, it is time to abandon that and
just use png images.  Yay!

:o)

Steve



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Re: [Gimp-user] Web development question?

2012-02-16 Thread Burnie West

On 02/16/2012 03:20 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:

On 02/16/2012 05:25 PM, Burnie West wrote:

On 02/16/2012 01:54 PM, Frank Gore wrote:

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Xiella
Harksellxie...@gmail.com   wrote:

As a point of difference :)

I find myself tending to save the majority of my images (in
terms of
developing the site - stripes, decorations, non-content stuff) as
PNGs.

You're not the only one, the vast majority of professional web
designers use PNGs as a flexible way of displaying images in
browsers.
The last browser I know of that didn't support PNG files properly
was
IE6... and can we count how many years old that is?

Usage is down to something around 5% on most sites I have seen
recent statistics for.  Considering the security aspect, it's really
not doing anyone a favor to support IE6 any more...  But the moment
I stop writing alternate style sheets for it, I just know my next
client will be running it in Win2k and asking me why the pages are
all broken and stuff.  :o)


There is  a minor but sound reason for using png rather than jpg
in many of
these cases - the fact that png is lossless. It does result in
somewhat larger
files, but if the specific image wants to be compressed to an
indexed-mode jpg
for file size reasons, a png background is I believe somewhat less
likely to
create artifacts - or so it seems to me.

I did not know that jpg had an indexed mode.  I knew I would be
getting some interesting feedback when I posted that answer.

I didn't mean to imply that jpg has an indexed mode. It just seems to me if
one exports a GIMP image in indexed mode to jpg the file comes out smaller.
Haven't run extensive tests on that, though.

GIMP actually transforms back to RGB before going to jpg (asking if that's
what you want first). So YMMV.

I have been doing this junk for so long that I developed an
automatic habit of anti-aliasing transparent gif images by hand as
per my earlier comments.  And yes, it is time to abandon that and
just use png images.  Yay!

:o)

Steve



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