Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP is GREAT!
Oh please ... now professionalism is a matter of setting one's status. In my forum, there are A LOT of professional photographers and they use a diverse range of tools and yes, it includes GIMP. Drop your judgement on what is professional and what is amateur ... or show us your gallery of professional work! Then maybe some of your comments could be taken seriously. On Tuesday 14 August 2012 18:59:22 maderios wrote: On 08/14/2012 05:31 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:16 PM, maderiosmader...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alexandre Really ? In 1987, digital photography didn't exist... We (photographers) were using color slides, and the contrast was a big problem... Easier with negative but useless for commercial use. Then, 1990 years, some colleagues began using P$$op for editing and archiving their photos. It was the beginning. Thomas renamed his program Photoshop and worked out a short-term deal with scanner manufacturer Barneyscan to distribute copies of the program with a slide scanner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop#Early_history Your ability to open and read WIkipedia is commendable, but I strongly suggest that you read the full history that I linked to :) Photographers weren't the reason to create Photoshop. It came next. Thanks for the link The first reason was professionnal, not amateur (like Gimp) then, soon, professional photography editing. Recently, amateur people discovered and started using pho$$op. To improve Gimp, developpers should listen to professional people. It's a chance About democracy and Gnu/Linux software developpement: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/08/msg00844.html Regards Maderios ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list -- Fortune cookie for Wednesday, August 15, 2012: Shaw's Principle: Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export
Hi Thanks for this post. This plug-in doesn't work for me (Debian Wheezy) I put it in /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/ chmod 755 Regards Maderios On 08/11/2012 10:39 PM, Akkana Peck wrote: Yet another thread about Save vs. Export this morning. I guess it's time to post this. Early on in the discussions, I posted something saying, basically, I don't like the new model either, but I'm going to work with it for a while and see if I continue to feel that way. But if I do, it's easy enough to write a plug-in that does what you want Save to do, perhaps involving gimp-file-save, and bind it to Ctrl-S. Well, actually I've found it surprisingly easy to adapt to using ctrl-E instead of ctrl-S. It's only a minor irritation that I have to ignore the you have unsaved images when I quit (and that I can no longer use it to tell me whether I *really* have unsaved images). But obviously a lot of people on the mailing lists are having a lot more trouble adapting. So yesterday I looked into the plug-in idea. And found out it was trivial. Aside from registering the plug-in, all you really need are two lines of Python: pdb.gimp_file_save(img, drawable, img.filename, img.filename) pdb.gimp_image_clean_all(img) The first line saves the image back to its current filename. (The gimp-file-save PDB call still handles all types, not just XCF.) The second line marks the image as clean, so you don't see an unsaved image warning when you quit. Since these are both PDB calls, you could also do them in Script-Fu. Of course, I couldn't just stop there -- I wanted it to handle images that didn't have filenames yet. For those, I couldn't use the standard GIMP save-as dialog, because as far as I can tell, there's no way to call that dialog from a plug-in. So it uses the standard GTK save-as dialog, and it starts in whatever directory is most prevalent in your currently open images. The dialog part isn't doable in Script-Fu, I don't think (which is why I used Python). Anyway, the Python plug-in is available here: https://github.com/akkana/gimp-plugins/blob/master/save-export-clean.py It shows up as File-Save/Export clean. Lousy name. Feel free to suggest a better one. Use at your own risk. I haven't tested it much. It WILL OVERWRITE the image file, without any warnings or confirmation dialogs. If you decide you like it, you can bind it to Ctrl-S. Or whatever. Now can we move on and talk about gegl graphs and improving the brush UI? :-) Alexandre Prokoudine writes (in response to the latest save-export thread): By the way, what does it take to make you less sour a more broad-minded and positive thinking? Would a mug of cocoa and a bun do the trick, perhaps? That sounds lovely, Alexandre. I think I'll go make some. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Wilber watch proposal
Hi all Some of you may know, I work at a company called Banu in India. We are starting the Banu Shop with a focus on geeky and hobbyist products. These include clothes and other wearables. Yesterday evening, I had accompanied other staff to the Indian govt. owned watch manufacturer named HMT. This is a popular watch company in India. HMT watches are priced low on purpose, so that the general public can afford them. Almost everyone's dad here owned a HMT watch. ;) Many govt. companies issued HMT watches to their staff as gifts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMT_%28India%29 The reason we were there was because of a line of mechanical watches. Mechanical movements are interesting to some geeky types. HMT have some legacy models still which are based on a 17 jewel wind-up mechanical movement designed by Citizen. The movement is the machine inside the watch shell that keeps time. You can read about the movement here (it's a scratched up piece, but that's the design): http://www.christophlorenz.de/watch/movements/h/hmt/hmt_020.php?l=en It runs at 18000 beats per hour, which is visible to the watch wearer as 5 movements of the second-hand per second. This movement was first licensed to them in the 1960s-70s, and HMT eventually acquired a permanent license for it. They are popular for their reliability, and I assume several hundreds of thousands of people (at least) have worn this movement in this country. You can see some more pictures of the innards of this movement here: http://watchguy.co.uk/review-hmt-sona/ http://watchguy.co.uk/reassembly-hmt-sona/ Wikipedia has some very nice articles on how such a mechanical watch works, if you're interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_watch If you read this article and its linked ones, then you will be able to distinguish some of the parts in the disassembly photos above. :) Based on this movement, there are 3 HMT watches that are very popular among collectors, going by the threads on watchuseek.com's forums: 1. HMT Sona (pictured in the articles above) [~ $22 retail locally] 2. HMT Janata [~ $15 retail locally]: http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f71/651764d1331717103-another-hmt-endorsement-img_8579-copy.jpg 3. HMT Pilot [~ $22 retail locally]: http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii197/hari317/HMT/IMG_3834.jpg You can do a Google image search for more pictures of these watches. Note that the Janata and Pilot models come in several dial variants, but we should consider the designs above. These are very reasonable prices for a mechanical watch of this movement and quality, and I assume (as I mentioned earlier) that they have been priced this way so that they are affordable to the general public in India. When we were there, the manager of the local office told me that they do institutional customizations. This means incorporating a logo into the dial of the watch. There are typically two ways to get it done: 1. Get a customization shop to do it. They open the watch, take out the dial, print on it, put the watch back together for a small fee. 2. Get HMT itself to do it. But the minimum number of watches to order is 100. Advantages are that this service is free, and is of higher quality. And as this happens at the factory itself, the watches are not re-opened. I cannot mention discounts that we receive on the mailing list, but the GIMP development team can know of it. If you have read so far, your grey cells must have formed the image of a Wilber watch by now. Before I start explaining further, let me say that if we do such a Wilber watch, 100% of profits will go into GIMP's account at GNOME. The advantage to Banu Shop is that as it's a new shop, its staff will get oiled in shipping orders around the world. :) I don't think this will be a major revenue maker for GIMP, as we (GIMP) will only make a few hundreds of dollars as profit (unless all million GIMP users buy :P). We'll be able to wear a Wilber watch.. that's the what the other main point of this is. If we want to do this, the main things that we should aim for are: * Runs reliably * Value for money * Low-priced, so that it's affordable to most GIMP users (we should not increase the price artificially to get more money for GIMP, for example) See the images and articles above. Let me know what you think. HMT Sona is not a good model to print on, as its dial is not smooth. We can try HMT Janata or HMT Pilot. I personally favour HMT Pilot as it has a better strap (both are leather), lume on its hands and feels better. It also costs slightly more. HMT Janata is very slim. HMT Pilot is slightly thicker. HMT Sona is about as thin as it gets! Top is HMT Janata, bottom is HMT Pilot: http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii197/hari317/HMT/IMG_3836.jpg All 3 models have the lens effect and the hands are slightly curved like yester-year watches. The '17 jewels' text is just a marketing gimmick (as on all such watches). The jewels are usually nearly worthless. They
