Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP still maintained by GNU

[Owen Cook]

> 
> GIMP = GNU Image Manipulation Program:
> 


I prefer Pat David's answer. See 
https://www.gimp.org/about/ancient_history.html which I suspect was written by 
Seth Burgess



Owen




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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP still maintained by GNU

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

14 дек. 2016 г. 3:32 пользователь "Rick C. Hodgin" 
написал:


> > Is GIMP still maintained by GNU?
>
> Was it ever?
>

GIMP = GNU Image Manipulation Program:


No kidding! :)

https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/log/?qt=author=gnu.org

https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/log/?qt=author=fsf.org

Maintained by GNU? Your guess is as good as mine :)


> However, GIMP appears to be still a GNU project.


Well? :)


Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP still maintained by GNU

[Pat David]

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> GIMP = GNU Image Manipulation Program:
>
> http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/GIMP
>
> "This is a GNU package: gimp"

It was originally the General Image Manipulation Program...

I think what Alexandre means is that the project is maintained by the GIMP
maintainers, not really GNU/FSF in terms of development of the actual
project.


> > > Or has it more or less broken away from
> > > GNU and just has loose affiliation?
> >
> > Had it been caged?
> >

> Once a software product is GPL'd it's always GPL'd, but that doesn't mean
> it must still proceed as part of the GNU Project.  It can be a spawned
> non-GNU project.  However, GIMP appears to be still a GNU project.

Yes, I'm fairly sure that Alexandre is aware of this.  ;)

Yes, GIMP is still a project associated with GNU.

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On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 6:32 PM Rick C. Hodgin 
wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine <
> alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > > Is GIMP still maintained by GNU?
> >
> > Was it ever?
> >
>
> GIMP = GNU Image Manipulation Program:
>
> http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/GIMP
>
> "This is a GNU package: gimp"
>
>
> > > Or has it more or less broken away from
> > > GNU and just has loose affiliation?
> >
> > Had it been caged?
> >
>
> Once a software product is GPL'd it's always GPL'd, but that doesn't mean
> it must still proceed as part of the GNU Project.  It can be a spawned
> non-GNU project.  However, GIMP appears to be still a GNU project.
>
>
> > Alex
> >
>
> Best regards,
> Rick C. Hodgin
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP still maintained by GNU

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > Is GIMP still maintained by GNU?
>
> Was it ever?
>

GIMP = GNU Image Manipulation Program:

http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/GIMP

"This is a GNU package: gimp"


> > Or has it more or less broken away from
> > GNU and just has loose affiliation?
>
> Had it been caged?
>

Once a software product is GPL'd it's always GPL'd, but that doesn't mean
it must still proceed as part of the GNU Project.  It can be a spawned
non-GNU project.  However, GIMP appears to be still a GNU project.


> Alex
>

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP still maintained by GNU

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> Is GIMP still maintained by GNU?

Was it ever?

> Or has it more or less broken away from
> GNU and just has loose affiliation?

Had it been caged?

Alex
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[Gimp-user] GIMP still maintained by GNU

[Rick C. Hodgin]

Is GIMP still maintained by GNU?  Or has it more or less broken away from
GNU and just has loose affiliation?

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Business Report of GIMP

[Steve Kinney]

On 09/16/2016 02:53 PM, rich2005 wrote:
> 
> As well as Linux, lots and lots of Windows users download (maybe not use so 
> much
> and often repeat downloaders)
> 
> When Gimp was hosted on sourceforge, you could get statistics.
> 
> see:
> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SgdpycZP3TwJ:gimpforums.com/thread-how-many-people-use-gimp+=3=en=clnk=us
> 
> In case that link scrambles the sourceforge traffic for Gimp
> http://i.imgur.com/gvQlvM8.jpg
> 
> I would assume that the level that dropped off when Gimp dropped sourceforge
> continued at gimp.org.

I started using the GIMP when Tor Lillqvist's first Windows ports
appeared, and have used it on Microsoft platforms ever since.  These
days I don't use any Microsoft products - they finally became completely
obsolete in every context that matters to me - but I do know several
people who use the GIMP on Windows 7 and 10.  Considering the huge
Microsoft user base, I would be surprised if GIMP users on Microsoft
platforms don't outnumber users on Linux platforms by a substantial
margin - but as per messages above, that's very hard to determine.

We have a large majority of Linux users posting on the list here, but
that is most likely due to the strong connection between Linux and
technical education / computer literacy.  "Geeks" use mailing lists like
this one, most others don't suspect they exist.

:o)


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[Gimp-user] Moving Fills and Strokes from under Edit (was: Change canvas size fill with option)

[Rick Strong]

I agree. "Select" was my first and preferred choice.

Rick

-Original Message- 
From: Alexandre Prokoudine

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:36 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Change canvas size fill with option

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Rick Strong wrote:

While you are making some "Fill with" changes, how about
removing these from under the menu item "Edit":

Fill with FG color
Fill with BG color
Fill with Pattern

Stroke Selection
Stroke Path

And putting them under one of:
Select; Image; Colors;  or Tools.

Any one would be a much more logical place to find a "Selection Fill" 
tool.


Select _might_ be a good choice. But both Image, Colors, and Tools are
completely irrelevant here.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] Change canvas size fill with option

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Rick Strong wrote:
> While you are making some "Fill with" changes, how about
> removing these from under the menu item "Edit":
>
> Fill with FG color
> Fill with BG color
> Fill with Pattern
>
> Stroke Selection
> Stroke Path
>
> And putting them under one of:
> Select; Image; Colors;  or Tools.
>
> Any one would be a much more logical place to find a "Selection Fill" tool.

Select _might_ be a good choice. But both Image, Colors, and Tools are
completely irrelevant here.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] Change canvas size fill with option

[Rick Strong]

While you are making some "Fill with" changes, how about
removing these from under the menu item "Edit":

Fill with FG color
Fill with BG color
Fill with Pattern

Stroke Selection
Stroke Path

And putting them under one of:
Select; Image; Colors;  or Tools.

Any one would be a much more logical place to find a "Selection Fill" tool.

Thank you,
Rick S.

-Original Message- 
From: Rick C. Hodgin

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:17 AM
To: Alexandre Prokoudine
Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Change canvas size fill with option

Thank you, Alex.  It was the next logical step, yes? :-)

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin


On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:


12 дек. 2016 г. 23:09 пользователь "Rick C. Hodgin" <
rick.c.hod...@gmail.com>
написал:

I'm using GIMP 2.8.18.

I thought a nice feature would be to add "Create a New Image" to resize
canvas options (and specifically the "Fill with:" options -- background
color, foreground color, white, transparency).


Already done in upcoming 2.9.6.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] Change canvas size fill with option

[Rick C. Hodgin]

Thank you, Alex.  It was the next logical step, yes? :-)

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin


On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 12 дек. 2016 г. 23:09 пользователь "Rick C. Hodgin" <
> rick.c.hod...@gmail.com>
> написал:
>
> I'm using GIMP 2.8.18.
>
> I thought a nice feature would be to add "Create a New Image" to resize
> canvas options (and specifically the "Fill with:" options -- background
> color, foreground color, white, transparency).
>
>
> Already done in upcoming 2.9.6.
>
> Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] Conserving layer groups in mockup export

[Ofnuts]

On 13/12/16 10:58, Daniel wrote:

Hey all,

I'm working on creating multi-layer website mockups using layer groups
to organize the elements of each section (header, menu, footer, etc).
The client would like the mockups in PSD format, but the PSD export
function flattens the layer groups, so during the conversion of the PSD
to HTML/CSS the developer won't be able to extract/isolate individual
elements (images/icons/etc) in the layer groups if they want to. I
already looked into exporting a multi-layer TIFF from Gimp, but that is
not currently supported.

I've got access to a copy of Photoshop, but I barely know how to use it
except for recreating the layer groups, so using it for doing the
mockups is not an option.

My idea for a workaround is to not use layer groups in Gimp and just
have all the elements in layers without any hierarchy, then export to
PSD, then in Photoshop open the file and create layer groups and
reorganize the elements as I normally would in Gimp. This solution takes
more time and is less organized during the creation of the mockups in
Gimp since I'll have no layer groups, but it is not the end of the
world, and maybe the only workable solution.

I'd love to know how others work through this type of issue. Anyone have
any suggestions?


If you are just using groups to keep related things together and not for 
specific compositing order,
a possible solution is to use a script in Gimp to un-group everything 
before exporting.

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[Gimp-user] Conserving layer groups in mockup export

[Daniel]

Hey all,

I'm working on creating multi-layer website mockups using layer groups
to organize the elements of each section (header, menu, footer, etc).
The client would like the mockups in PSD format, but the PSD export
function flattens the layer groups, so during the conversion of the PSD
to HTML/CSS the developer won't be able to extract/isolate individual
elements (images/icons/etc) in the layer groups if they want to. I
already looked into exporting a multi-layer TIFF from Gimp, but that is
not currently supported.

I've got access to a copy of Photoshop, but I barely know how to use it
except for recreating the layer groups, so using it for doing the
mockups is not an option.

My idea for a workaround is to not use layer groups in Gimp and just
have all the elements in layers without any hierarchy, then export to
PSD, then in Photoshop open the file and create layer groups and
reorganize the elements as I normally would in Gimp. This solution takes
more time and is less organized during the creation of the mockups in
Gimp since I'll have no layer groups, but it is not the end of the
world, and maybe the only workable solution.

I'd love to know how others work through this type of issue. Anyone have
any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,
Daniel
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Re: [Gimp-user] take email address off mailing list

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Lynn,

please see the links at the footer added by the mailing list, namely:

https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

Go there and follow the instructions to unsubscribe.

Otherwise note that using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_caps is considered
akin to shouting on the Internet and should be avoided.

Sorry to see you go and good luck in the future.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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> HELLO GIMP PEOPLE,
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