Re: [Gimp-user] changing the brush sizes

[Ross Martinek]

Thanks, Steve. They probably don’t fit my work, but the insight to your setup 
is quite valuable. The brushes in GIMP are probably it’s most confusing aspect, 
especially to relative tyros, or those switching from APS.

Ross


> On Dec 14, 2016, at 3:21 PM, Steve Kinney  wrote:
> 
> On 12/13/2016 03:33 PM, mehjg wrote:
>> I want to be able to edit my brushes and save them, using the appropriate 
>> dialog
>> box, but no matter what I do, the size doesn't change. I can change the
>> hardness, angle, aspect ratio, etc., but the size just won't change, whether
>> using the bracket keys or the radius slider. I'm not using a mouse and I 
>> don't
>> want to try using the track pad's scroll function to change the size of the
>> brush because I use it to scroll. Any suggestions?
>> Thanks,
>> Matthew
> 
> I have a comprehensive (for me) solution to the Brush Size (and
> Hardness) Question.
> 
> First, note that there are two major classes of GIMP brush:  GBR brush
> files are bitmaps, fixed in size and hardness.  VBR brush files are
> vectors, with variable size and hardness that can be changed "on the
> fly" with keyboard + mouse commands while using the brushes.
> 
> Here's a set of VBR brushes I made; they cover over 90% of my own uses
> for brush tools in the GIMP; I named them to assure that they appear at
> the top of the list in the Brushes dialog:
> 
> http://pilobilus.net/xfer/Variable-Brushes.zip
> 
> Drop them into your /brushes folder, and viola.
> 
> Preview:
> 
> http://pilobilus.net/xfer/brushes.png
> 
> The oval ones are good for getting into tight spaces.
> 
> Now about that "change size and hardness on the fly" part:
> 
> Go to Edit > Preferences > Input Controllers and double click on Main
> Mouse Wheel to bring up the configuration dialog. Picture worth thousand
> words (or at least a hundred or so):
> 
> http://pilobilus.net/img/mouse-scale-brush.jpg
> 
> I also configure the GIMP to make the current brush "softer" or "harder"
> - that is, more or less fuzzy around the edge - in response to holding
> down Ctrl + Shift + Alt and scrolling the mouse wheel up and down.
> Controlling brush size and hardness with the mouse wheel is way more
> efficient than constantly switching between brushes. These settings can
> be found in the same menu as above.
> 
> These brushes and settings save enough stress and hassle in one editing
> project to way more than justify the time and effort it takes to
> configure them.  Then you have them "forever" or at least as long as
> your present GIMP installation is in place.
> 
> :o)
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] changing the brush sizes

[Steve Kinney]

On 12/13/2016 03:33 PM, mehjg wrote:
> I want to be able to edit my brushes and save them, using the appropriate 
> dialog
> box, but no matter what I do, the size doesn't change. I can change the
> hardness, angle, aspect ratio, etc., but the size just won't change, whether
> using the bracket keys or the radius slider. I'm not using a mouse and I don't
> want to try using the track pad's scroll function to change the size of the
> brush because I use it to scroll. Any suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Matthew

I have a comprehensive (for me) solution to the Brush Size (and
Hardness) Question.

First, note that there are two major classes of GIMP brush:  GBR brush
files are bitmaps, fixed in size and hardness.  VBR brush files are
vectors, with variable size and hardness that can be changed "on the
fly" with keyboard + mouse commands while using the brushes.

Here's a set of VBR brushes I made; they cover over 90% of my own uses
for brush tools in the GIMP; I named them to assure that they appear at
the top of the list in the Brushes dialog:

http://pilobilus.net/xfer/Variable-Brushes.zip

Drop them into your /brushes folder, and viola.

Preview:

http://pilobilus.net/xfer/brushes.png

The oval ones are good for getting into tight spaces.

Now about that "change size and hardness on the fly" part:

Go to Edit > Preferences > Input Controllers and double click on Main
Mouse Wheel to bring up the configuration dialog. Picture worth thousand
words (or at least a hundred or so):

http://pilobilus.net/img/mouse-scale-brush.jpg

I also configure the GIMP to make the current brush "softer" or "harder"
- that is, more or less fuzzy around the edge - in response to holding
down Ctrl + Shift + Alt and scrolling the mouse wheel up and down.
Controlling brush size and hardness with the mouse wheel is way more
efficient than constantly switching between brushes. These settings can
be found in the same menu as above.

These brushes and settings save enough stress and hassle in one editing
project to way more than justify the time and effort it takes to
configure them.  Then you have them "forever" or at least as long as
your present GIMP installation is in place.

:o)



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Re: [Gimp-user] changing the brush sizes

[Ofnuts]

On 13/12/16 21:33, mehjg wrote:

I want to be able to edit my brushes and save them, using the appropriate dialog
box, but no matter what I do, the size doesn't change. I can change the
hardness, angle, aspect ratio, etc., but the size just won't change, whether
using the bracket keys or the radius slider. I'm not using a mouse and I don't
want to try using the track pad's scroll function to change the size of the
brush because I use it to scroll. Any suggestions?
You can save the whole combo of brush size, opacity, fade, etc, by 
saving the Tool options for the Paintbrush (or the Pencil, Eraser, 
Smudge...).


You can also create a brush at a given size so you wouldn't restore a 
size but just the brush with the right size from the Brush palette.

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Re: [Gimp-user] changing the brush sizes

[Judy Wilson]

On 12/13/2016 02:33 PM, mehjg wrote:

I want to be able to edit my brushes and save them, using the appropriate dialog
box, but no matter what I do, the size doesn't change. I can change the
hardness, angle, aspect ratio, etc., but the size just won't change, whether
using the bracket keys or the radius slider. I'm not using a mouse and I don't
want to try using the track pad's scroll function to change the size of the
brush because I use it to scroll. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Matthew

Hi Jim,

from he textual description of a youtube video I found out while
having your same problem:

"GIMP has a very good at working with realistic paint brushes, but the
default installation lacks a very useful shortcut. If you have worked
with the Paint Brush or Pencil tool, you may have noticed that
changing the size of the brush isn't easy. You have to fiddle around
with the Size/Scale slider in the tool options on the left. This is a
lot of guess work, because it doesn't show a preview size when you are
dragging the slider. Have no fear, there is an easier way. Configure
the mouse wheel to increase and decrease the brush size when you
scroll up or down.

-Click "Edit"?"Preferences"
-Under the "Input Devices" section, click "Input Controllers"
-In the "Active Controllers" column, double-click "Main Mouse Wheel"
-A new window to configure the controller will pop up. Make sure the
second check box, "Enable this Controller" is checked, or else this
won't work
-Find the "Scroll Up" event, (it should be at the top). Double-click
it or click "Edit" at the bottom.
-Click on the "Tools" section and type "increase" in the search field
-Scroll down and click on the action "Increase Brush Size". The name
is "tools-paint-brush-size-increase­ot;. (In some versions of GIMP
it was "Increase Brush Scale")
-Close the window, then edit the "Scroll Down" event
-This time type "Decrease" in the search bar and locate the "Decrease
Brush Size" action. (Name is "tools-paint-brush-size-decrease­ot;)
-Close the action window, input controller window and click OK in the
"Preferences" window

Now you can simply scroll the mouse wheel to vary the brush size."

Hope it helps,
To me, it works perfectly! ;)

Cheers,


When I have a tool open like the paint brush, clone, or something 
similar, if my cursor is in the image, I simple tap the [ to make it 
smaller or the ] to make it larger. I do this all the time and I love 
it. I may try to above, might be even easier.


Judy Wilson



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Re: [Gimp-user] changing the brush sizes

[Richard]

I'm not sure I'm understanding this correctly, but in current GIMPs the actual 
size of a brush is controlled through the Tool Options of the active painting 
tool - the size shown in the Brush Editor is merely the default size for said 
brush.


-- Stratadrake
strata_ran...@hotmail.com

Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.



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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:33 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
Subject: [Gimp-user] changing the brush sizes

I want to be able to edit my brushes and save them, using the appropriate dialog
box, but no matter what I do, the size doesn't change. I can change the
hardness, angle, aspect ratio, etc., but the size just won't change, whether
using the bracket keys or the radius slider. I'm not using a mouse and I don't
want to try using the track pad's scroll function to change the size of the
brush because I use it to scroll. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Matthew
>Hi Jim,
>
>from he textual description of a youtube video I found out while
>having your same problem:
>
>"GIMP has a very good at working with realistic paint brushes, but the
>default installation lacks a very useful shortcut. If you have worked
>with the Paint Brush or Pencil tool, you may have noticed that
>changing the size of the brush isn't easy. You have to fiddle around
>with the Size/Scale slider in the tool options on the left. This is a
>lot of guess work, because it doesn't show a preview size when you are
>dragging the slider. Have no fear, there is an easier way. Configure
>the mouse wheel to increase and decrease the brush size when you
>scroll up or down.
>
>-Click "Edit"?"Preferences"
>-Under the "Input Devices" section, click "Input Controllers"
>-In the "Active Controllers" column, double-click "Main Mouse Wheel"
>-A new window to configure the controller will pop up. Make sure the
>second check box, "Enable this Controller" is checked, or else this
>won't work
>-Find the "Scroll Up" event, (it should be at the top). Double-click
>it or click "Edit" at the bottom.
>-Click on the "Tools" section and type "increase" in the search field
>-Scroll down and click on the action "Increase Brush Size". The name
>is "tools-paint-brush-size-increase­ot;. (In some versions of GIMP
>it was "Increase Brush Scale")
>-Close the window, then edit the "Scroll Down" event
>-This time type "Decrease" in the search bar and locate the "Decrease
>Brush Size" action. (Name is "tools-paint-brush-size-decrease­ot;)
>-Close the action window, input controller window and click OK in the
>"Preferences" window
>
>Now you can simply scroll the mouse wheel to vary the brush size."
>
>Hope it helps,
>To me, it works perfectly! ;)
>
>Cheers,

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[Gimp-user] Question Regarding Transparent Layers

[Experimentalist]

Thanks Rich!  

This helps because yesterday was the first day I used GIMP.  I normally do
things in PhotoShop  but when someone doesn't have PhotoShop, I direct them to
GIMP.

So I know virtually nothing about using it.

It's good for me to learn as much as I can.  I find your response extremely
helpful.

Cheers!

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[Gimp-user] Question Regarding Transparent Layers

[rich2005]

Unless you are standing behind the user, never certain what is going on...

>she clicks out of the logo (clicks somewhere on the jewelry image in
>order to remove the selection tool from around the logo) the formerly
>transparent background appears.
>
>Any ideas?
>
However, that bit is not correct. Which tool is active? Gimp does not have a
neutral tool, there is always one in use, although some such as the measure tool
are harmless.

Assuming a straight copy - paste, either via  menu or ctrl-c, ctrl-v, there is a
Floating Selection, to remove the 'crawling ants' anchor that. Layer -> Anchor
Layer, ctrl-h, or the layer dock. see: attachment. While it is still 'floating'
it can be moved with the move tool.

A better way is copy, then paste-as-a-new-layer, Edit -> Paste-as -> New Layer.
Initially top left corner of the canvas, use the move tool any-time to move into
position. see: attachment Make sure you click on a solid part of layer or enable
move active layer.

rich: www.gimp-forum.net

Attachments:
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/365/original/anchor.jpg
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/366/original/layer.jpg

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[Gimp-user] Basic image editing

[rich2005]

>Thank you for the help. I need copy a lot of elements from original
>image to new image in template: should I paste every element as new
>layer?

As with everything, it depends, but at least one layer, separate from the
background layers.

For logos and small graphics in a fixed position could go on a single layer.

The advantage of using separate layers is individual elements can be adjusted,
moved, scaled, rotated without disturbing anything else.

Text is best kept as a text layer. If you try and copy-paste from another image
it will end up rasterized. Always best to try and recreate.

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[Gimp-user] changing the brush sizes

[mehjg]

I want to be able to edit my brushes and save them, using the appropriate dialog
box, but no matter what I do, the size doesn't change. I can change the
hardness, angle, aspect ratio, etc., but the size just won't change, whether
using the bracket keys or the radius slider. I'm not using a mouse and I don't
want to try using the track pad's scroll function to change the size of the
brush because I use it to scroll. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Matthew
>Hi Jim,
>
>from he textual description of a youtube video I found out while
>having your same problem:
>
>"GIMP has a very good at working with realistic paint brushes, but the
>default installation lacks a very useful shortcut. If you have worked
>with the Paint Brush or Pencil tool, you may have noticed that
>changing the size of the brush isn't easy. You have to fiddle around
>with the Size/Scale slider in the tool options on the left. This is a
>lot of guess work, because it doesn't show a preview size when you are
>dragging the slider. Have no fear, there is an easier way. Configure
>the mouse wheel to increase and decrease the brush size when you
>scroll up or down.
>
>-Click "Edit"?"Preferences"
>-Under the "Input Devices" section, click "Input Controllers"
>-In the "Active Controllers" column, double-click "Main Mouse Wheel"
>-A new window to configure the controller will pop up. Make sure the
>second check box, "Enable this Controller" is checked, or else this
>won't work
>-Find the "Scroll Up" event, (it should be at the top). Double-click
>it or click "Edit" at the bottom.
>-Click on the "Tools" section and type "increase" in the search field
>-Scroll down and click on the action "Increase Brush Size". The name
>is "tools-paint-brush-size-increase­ot;. (In some versions of GIMP
>it was "Increase Brush Scale")
>-Close the window, then edit the "Scroll Down" event
>-This time type "Decrease" in the search bar and locate the "Decrease
>Brush Size" action. (Name is "tools-paint-brush-size-decrease­ot;)
>-Close the action window, input controller window and click OK in the
>"Preferences" window
>
>Now you can simply scroll the mouse wheel to vary the brush size."
>
>Hope it helps,
>To me, it works perfectly! ;)
>
>Cheers,

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[Gimp-user] Basic image editing

[kvasar]

>Oh dear, this is what happens with no planning. Good in one way, your
>image has a resolution of 600ppi, a little over-the-top but better
>than too low a value. For sending to a printer 300 ppi is suitable
>unless they ask for more. Leave it as 600 ppi and see what happens.
>
>always a but...
>
>You will be better off starting from scratch using all the tools that
>Gimp provides, layers, layer-mask, gimp guides, selections. Trying to
>modify the existing image will end up, less than wonderful.
>
>The patterns are standard Gimp, sky and pine, however the sky pattern
>does not extend outside the 'safe area' and the other colours and
>pattern do.
>
>Attached, is a scaled up to 600 ppi template with the image recreated.
>If you turn on the guides, View menu -> Show Guides, you will see,
>plenty of them. Get in the habit of using them. These only exist in
>Gimp, they are not printed.
>
>For adding text, put your text layers under mask layer, there is one
>there already as an indicator.
>
>When complete and ready for printing, turn off the visibility of the
>top layer. That will leave only the crop marks used by the printer.
>Rounded corners are part of the printing process, cut out by the
>printing company.
>
>rich: www.gimp-forum.net

Thank you for the help. I need copy a lot of elements from original image to new
image in template: should I paste every element as new layer?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Conserving layer groups in mockup export

[D Stickney]

Le 13/12/2016 à 11:46, Ofnuts a écrit :
> On 13/12/16 10:58, Daniel wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm working on creating multi-layer website mockups using layer groups
>> to organize the elements of each section (header, menu, footer, etc).
>> The client would like the mockups in PSD format, but the PSD export
>> function flattens the layer groups, so during the conversion of the PSD
>> to HTML/CSS the developer won't be able to extract/isolate individual
>> elements (images/icons/etc) in the layer groups if they want to. I
>> already looked into exporting a multi-layer TIFF from Gimp, but that is
>> not currently supported.
>>
>> I've got access to a copy of Photoshop, but I barely know how to use it
>> except for recreating the layer groups, so using it for doing the
>> mockups is not an option.
>>
>> My idea for a workaround is to not use layer groups in Gimp and just
>> have all the elements in layers without any hierarchy, then export to
>> PSD, then in Photoshop open the file and create layer groups and
>> reorganize the elements as I normally would in Gimp. This solution takes
>> more time and is less organized during the creation of the mockups in
>> Gimp since I'll have no layer groups, but it is not the end of the
>> world, and maybe the only workable solution.
>>
>> I'd love to know how others work through this type of issue. Anyone have
>> any suggestions?
>
> If you are just using groups to keep related things together and not
> for specific compositing order,
> a possible solution is to use a script in Gimp to un-group everything
> before exporting. 
Thanks for your reply. If possible I'd like the file I export from Gimp
to open in Photoshop with all the layer groups intact. No one else has
done this or needed to do this? This would be easy if the TIFF export
supported layer groups because I could just open the TIFF in PS
directly. This seems like the optimal solution for me.

If it is confirmed that there is no way to do that today, I'll fall back
to the manual recreation. In that case I totally agree that doing an
un-group just before exporting to PSD will allow me to work with the
layer groups in Gimp, which I prefer. I see there is a plugin which
ungroups layer groups which I could use.

Daniel
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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: Conserving layer groups in mockup export

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
> Can you check if ther eis a Phtoshop opensource plugin to read "ora" files ?

There is none.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: Conserving layer groups in mockup export

[Joao S. O. Bueno]

Can you check if ther eis a Phtoshop opensource plugin to read "ora" files ?

These do support layer-groups, and would bread correctly. Even if the
Photoshop plug-in is dephased/faulty, it would be an easier fix for
this situation.



On 14 December 2016 at 12:35, Daniel  wrote:
> Le 13/12/2016 à 11:46, Ofnuts a écrit :
>> On 13/12/16 10:58, Daniel wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I'm working on creating multi-layer website mockups using layer groups
>>> to organize the elements of each section (header, menu, footer, etc).
>>> The client would like the mockups in PSD format, but the PSD export
>>> function flattens the layer groups, so during the conversion of the PSD
>>> to HTML/CSS the developer won't be able to extract/isolate individual
>>> elements (images/icons/etc) in the layer groups if they want to. I
>>> already looked into exporting a multi-layer TIFF from Gimp, but that is
>>> not currently supported.
>>>
>>> I've got access to a copy of Photoshop, but I barely know how to use it
>>> except for recreating the layer groups, so using it for doing the
>>> mockups is not an option.
>>>
>>> My idea for a workaround is to not use layer groups in Gimp and just
>>> have all the elements in layers without any hierarchy, then export to
>>> PSD, then in Photoshop open the file and create layer groups and
>>> reorganize the elements as I normally would in Gimp. This solution takes
>>> more time and is less organized during the creation of the mockups in
>>> Gimp since I'll have no layer groups, but it is not the end of the
>>> world, and maybe the only workable solution.
>>>
>>> I'd love to know how others work through this type of issue. Anyone have
>>> any suggestions?
>>
>> If you are just using groups to keep related things together and not
>> for specific compositing order,
>> a possible solution is to use a script in Gimp to un-group everything
>> before exporting.
> Thanks for your reply. If possible I'd like the file I export from Gimp
> to open in Photoshop with all the layer groups intact. No one else has
> done this or needed to do this? This would be easy if the TIFF export
> supported layer groups because I could just open the TIFF in PS
> directly. This seems like the optimal solution for me.
>
> If it is confirmed that there is no way to do that today, I'll fall back
> to the manual recreation. In that case I totally agree that doing an
> un-group just before exporting to PSD will allow me to work with the
> layer groups in Gimp, which I prefer. I see there is a plugin which
> ungroups layer groups which I could use.
>
> Daniel
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[Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: Conserving layer groups in mockup export

[Daniel]

Le 13/12/2016 à 11:46, Ofnuts a écrit :
> On 13/12/16 10:58, Daniel wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm working on creating multi-layer website mockups using layer groups
>> to organize the elements of each section (header, menu, footer, etc).
>> The client would like the mockups in PSD format, but the PSD export
>> function flattens the layer groups, so during the conversion of the PSD
>> to HTML/CSS the developer won't be able to extract/isolate individual
>> elements (images/icons/etc) in the layer groups if they want to. I
>> already looked into exporting a multi-layer TIFF from Gimp, but that is
>> not currently supported.
>>
>> I've got access to a copy of Photoshop, but I barely know how to use it
>> except for recreating the layer groups, so using it for doing the
>> mockups is not an option.
>>
>> My idea for a workaround is to not use layer groups in Gimp and just
>> have all the elements in layers without any hierarchy, then export to
>> PSD, then in Photoshop open the file and create layer groups and
>> reorganize the elements as I normally would in Gimp. This solution takes
>> more time and is less organized during the creation of the mockups in
>> Gimp since I'll have no layer groups, but it is not the end of the
>> world, and maybe the only workable solution.
>>
>> I'd love to know how others work through this type of issue. Anyone have
>> any suggestions?
>
> If you are just using groups to keep related things together and not
> for specific compositing order,
> a possible solution is to use a script in Gimp to un-group everything
> before exporting. 
Thanks for your reply. If possible I'd like the file I export from Gimp
to open in Photoshop with all the layer groups intact. No one else has
done this or needed to do this? This would be easy if the TIFF export
supported layer groups because I could just open the TIFF in PS
directly. This seems like the optimal solution for me.

If it is confirmed that there is no way to do that today, I'll fall back
to the manual recreation. In that case I totally agree that doing an
un-group just before exporting to PSD will allow me to work with the
layer groups in Gimp, which I prefer. I see there is a plugin which
ungroups layer groups which I could use.

Daniel
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Re: [Gimp-user] Business Report of GIMP

[Marco Ciampa via gimp-user-list]

I work in a high school in Italy and I can definitely say tha GIMP is
used widely in education under Windows and Mac as it is Free (in the
meaning of like Freedom _and_ Free Beer) where people can't afford or
want to use an alternative raster-graphic program other than Photoshop.

For the sake of honesty, I think you have to check also for Krita:

https://krita.org

as its user base is growing fast, even on GIMP ...

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