Re: [Gimp-user] Double mails from the list ?

2017-06-18 Thread Kevin Cozens

On 2017-06-18 08:00 PM, Ken Moffat wrote:

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 04:26:14PM -0700, Ken Moffat wrote:
I'd noticed one or two double-posts recently

[snip]

Anyone know what is going on ?


One thing I've noticed is that the second message of a double post mentions 
a newsgroup "local.gimp.user". The reason for the double post may have 
something to do with the message being posted to two places where the second 
place is routed back to the mailing list.


I can't that is what is actually happening. Just an educated guess.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Certification plans

2017-06-18 Thread Rick Strong

The originator of this question might be better off to become certified by a
professional graphic design/graphic communication organization such as the
GDC in Canada, ARGD in Ontario, the SDGQ in Québec, the UCDA (colleges &
universities), CAPIC for Illustrators, the AGDA in Australia, the AIGA in
the U.S. or ICOGRADA in Europe.

Knowing the software is just the start of a great career.

Rick S.

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From: Steve Kinney

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Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Certification plans



On 06/18/2017 03:30 PM, Ofnuts wrote:


IMHO a Gimp certification is pointless. People that pay you for graphics
work look at the result and don't really care how you obtained it.


Depends the workplace environment.  At a company big enough to have a
dedicated HR department, ass covering is always a priority:  When you
hire people without knowing anything at all about the actual job they
are going to do, a certificate from somebody saying the candidate can do
that job is evidence of due diligence - and takes no actual work on the
part of the interviewer, vs. asking to see examples of a candidate's
work, guessing whether it's relevant to the position in question, etc.

An offlist message mentioned a certification program for the GIMP that
costs $120 and, per the curriculum on the website, appears to be legit.
Any experienced user could probably blow through it in a day or so,
unless it is necessary to memorize "wrong answers" to pass.

:o)



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Re: [Gimp-user] Double mails from the list ?

2017-06-18 Thread Casey Connor
I'm also seeing a lot of double posts. The headers between the 
duplicates are kind of mess; e.g. of the message you just sent, the 
first has the ntlworld DKIM signature, the second doesn't. The Received 
route indicate by the first seems to imply that a virginmedia.net server 
is re-injecting it? The second copy has a more logical Received chain, 
but no DKIM header.


I note also that the second copy has two gimp-user-list signatures at 
the end of the email body, implying accidental re-injection.


Sounds to me like a routing misconfiguration at gnome.org, which I guess 
was already obvious. :-)


-c

On 06/18/2017 05:00 PM, Ken Moffat wrote:

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 04:26:14PM -0700, Ken Moffat wrote:

Or rather, I wrote it at 00:26:14 +0100 on Monday.  That post
appeared on the list, followed by a second version with West-Coast
American time.

I'd noticed one or two double-posts recently (I filter this list
into a mailbox with a lot of other lists, and traffic from this list
is mostly light).  But then _I_ double-post and so does the next
guy.

Anyone know what is going on ?

ĸen


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[Gimp-user] Double mails from the list ?

2017-06-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 04:26:14PM -0700, Ken Moffat wrote:

Or rather, I wrote it at 00:26:14 +0100 on Monday.  That post
appeared on the list, followed by a second version with West-Coast
American time.

I'd noticed one or two double-posts recently (I filter this list
into a mailbox with a lot of other lists, and traffic from this list
is mostly light).  But then _I_ double-post and so does the next
guy.

Anyone know what is going on ?

ĸen
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[Gimp-user] New plugin for merging three raw exposures.

2017-06-18 Thread Ken Moffat
After getting my Scheme plugin to work (add overexposed and
underexposed versions of a raw image, to recover some shadow and
highlight detail) and working out the detail of how I then recover
from the reduced-contrast result (well duh!, G'MIC for Local contrast
enhancement), and then fine-tuning my own process, I've concluded
that it is "good enough".

It is called "Three Exposures" and sits in Filters -> Enhance.

Since the official plugin registry is no longer operational, I've
put a page at http://www.zarniwhoop.uk/three-exposures.html with
small examples of the result - each links to a series of less-small
examples to show what I did (if only as a "don't do that, then"
example for the good photographers out there). The download link is
at hte bottom of hte page.

It works with ufraw and gimp-2.8: if people on windows or mac can
convert their raw images to xcf (or uncompressed png) files then it
should work for them too - but it's only tested on linux.

And as I note on the page, it does not work with 2.9.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Certification plans

2017-06-18 Thread Steve Kinney


On 06/18/2017 03:30 PM, Ofnuts wrote:

> IMHO a Gimp certification is pointless. People that pay you for graphics
> work look at the result and don't really care how you obtained it. 

Depends the workplace environment.  At a company big enough to have a
dedicated HR department, ass covering is always a priority:  When you
hire people without knowing anything at all about the actual job they
are going to do, a certificate from somebody saying the candidate can do
that job is evidence of due diligence - and takes no actual work on the
part of the interviewer, vs. asking to see examples of a candidate's
work, guessing whether it's relevant to the position in question, etc.

An offlist message mentioned a certification program for the GIMP that
costs $120 and, per the curriculum on the website, appears to be legit.
Any experienced user could probably blow through it in a day or so,
unless it is necessary to memorize "wrong answers" to pass.

:o)



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Re: [Gimp-user] Certification plans

2017-06-18 Thread Steve Kinney


On 06/18/2017 03:30 PM, Ofnuts wrote:
> On 06/18/17 21:09, Steve Kinney wrote:
>>
>> On 06/18/2017 03:22 AM, mikolaskova wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm working on a project, where existing raster graphic software is
>>> being
>>> replaced by GIMP.
>>> There was a question about available certification. Are there any
>>> official
>>> plans?
>> Certification of what, by who, and for what purpose?
>>
>> Inquiring minds want to know.
>>
>>
> These are "Professional certifications", that are available in some form
> or another for many professional softwares. Usually obtained after a
> (paying) training from the software house: Oracle, Microsoft, RedHat... 
> There are also certifications for FOSS software but since they are
> issued by many independent companies none of them have much clout. They
> can look nice on a resume, especially when you are hired on a project
> basis (consultant, IT services...) but not a true proof of proficiency.
> 
> IMHO a Gimp certification is pointless. People that pay you for graphics
> work look at the result and don't really care how you obtained it. This
> isn't the same thing as trusting your mission-critical enterprise
> database or server farm to some unknown individual.

Oh that.  As an old QA guy I tend to think of certification in a whole
other context, relevant to the fitness for use of deliverables.

I don't think too highly of certificates of completion from vendor
specific programs for software users.  A primary objective of the
coursework in those programs is to prepare the student as an outside
sales rep for the vendor, assuring that as much money as possible will
be spent with the vendor by certified whatzit's employer, and vendor
lock-in firmly established at the enterprise.

:o)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Certification plans

2017-06-18 Thread Ofnuts

On 06/18/17 21:09, Steve Kinney wrote:


On 06/18/2017 03:22 AM, mikolaskova wrote:

Hello,

I'm working on a project, where existing raster graphic software is being
replaced by GIMP.
There was a question about available certification. Are there any official
plans?

Certification of what, by who, and for what purpose?

Inquiring minds want to know.


These are "Professional certifications", that are available in some form 
or another for many professional softwares. Usually obtained after a 
(paying) training from the software house: Oracle, Microsoft, RedHat...  
There are also certifications for FOSS software but since they are 
issued by many independent companies none of them have much clout. They 
can look nice on a resume, especially when you are hired on a project 
basis (consultant, IT services...) but not a true proof of proficiency.


IMHO a Gimp certification is pointless. People that pay you for graphics 
work look at the result and don't really care how you obtained it. This 
isn't the same thing as trusting your mission-critical enterprise 
database or server farm to some unknown individual.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Certification plans

2017-06-18 Thread Steve Kinney


On 06/18/2017 03:22 AM, mikolaskova wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> I'm working on a project, where existing raster graphic software is being
> replaced by GIMP.
> There was a question about available certification. Are there any official
> plans?

Certification of what, by who, and for what purpose?

Inquiring minds want to know.


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[Gimp-user] My Crop and Selection stuff isn't working

2017-06-18 Thread Joey
Okay, so my system specs are:
OS: Linux Mint 17
Version: Gimp 2.8.16
GPU: EVGA GTX 770 4GB Classified
CPU(s): (2x) Xeon 2.6 Ghz 8core Hyper Threaded (32 threads total)
RAM: (1x) Adata 1600Mhz 8GB Stick

So not sure if that matters. The issue is, that I can't crop, or use the
selection tools... The layers are not locked. Pixels are not locked. Layer is
locked. It does not work, with or without everything selected. The cursor
doesn't say it's not working, it's just not. I do have custom preferences, and I
tried uninstalling it, and reinstalling it, and it didn't fix the problem and it
kept my preferences. I tried resetting the preferences. Problem remained. I
think I started to get the problem when I tried to get my tablet to work with
gimp, and I played around with dynamics, but I don't recall.

Thanks,
Joey

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[Gimp-user] finding and replacing all variants of one colour

2017-06-18 Thread pbw
>Would something like this help?
>
>https://patdavid.net/2010/09/quick-and-easy-visualization-of-paint.html

Yes, that is helpful, thank you Pat. The hint about desaturating is one of those
things that are obvious once someone points them out to you.

There's a great site called Encycolorpedia that has the colour values for a wide
range of commercial paints.  Working from that I can try particular tints.

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[Gimp-user] Certification plans

2017-06-18 Thread mikolaskova
Hello, 

I'm working on a project, where existing raster graphic software is being
replaced by GIMP.
There was a question about available certification. Are there any official
plans?

I found an old thread, where it does not sound too positive about this idea,
but maybe things changed.
(this one http://gimp.1065349.n5.nabble.com/Gimp-certification-td17240.html
but it got a discussion about GIMP name)

Thanks and regard,

Adriana



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