[Gimp-user] Thickening/darkening lines of scanned images

2019-07-06 Thread Chungster
>As with everything graphics, all depends on the image(s).  Assuming
>Gimp 2.10 and Windows
>
>First thing to try is Filters -> Generic -> Erode which grows dark
>areas. Try applying a couple of times. See: comparison screenshot.
>
>If they are reasonably clean scans  then you should get a result.
>Otherwise:
>
>For something more sophisticated but still easy to use, try the Gimp
>gmic plug-in www.gmic.eu  There is a Windows installer for Gimp 2.10.
>This has hundreds of filters for various effects but there is one -
>repair scanned documents. See: screenshot.  Adjust sliders to suit.


Thanks so much, really helpful.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Huge image problem

2019-07-06 Thread Rick Strong
The obvious question for me is: what do you hope to do with the finished 
map? Mount it on a wall? Make it the size of a driving map? Put it in a 
book? Put it on the web?


Your end use will determine how you reduce it. Don't forget that optical 
processes (high resolution map making camera or scanner) may be your friend 
for at least reducing the huge physical size to a working size. Film has far 
greater resolution than digital.


File sizes are affected by bit depth, number of colours and resolution.

Rick S. 


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Re: [Gimp-user] Huge image problem

2019-07-06 Thread Michael Schumacher
Am 06.07.19 um 16:24 schrieb btt:

> Hi,
> So I am working on a many years long map making project. I am using a scale of
> 1" to 10 miles and hand drawing it on 9x12" panels of paper. The current size 
> of
> the map is about 20 by 20 feet. This is obviously too large to see in one 
> place,
> so I have been using GIMP to panel them together in a digital file. Obviously,
> this file is getting quite large. I was hoping people might have suggestions 
> on
> how to reduce the size of the file without reducing the image quality too 
> much.
> It's only going to get bigger haha. I've got no experience with vector based
> programs, is that the direction I need to head?

If you are not booked on having one file, then maybe keep the multiple
files - in fact, create even more of them, at smaller scales with less
detail - and then use something like https://leafletjs.com/ (FLOSS to
make the map interactive and zoomable?

TL;DR: Leaflet is a javascript library to create maps like on the
OpenStreetmap site. They use it, actually:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Leaflet

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Re: [Gimp-user] Huge image problem

2019-07-06 Thread Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list
How about converting to vector directly from gimp?
https://www.google.com/search?q=convert+gimp+to+vector&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari


On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 12:21 PM rich404  wrote:

> >Hi,
> >So I am working on a many years long map making project. I am using a
> >scale of 1" to 10 miles and hand drawing it on 9x12" panels of paper.
> >The current size of the map is about 20 by 20 feet. This is obviously
> >too large to see in one place, so I have been using GIMP to panel them
> >together in a digital file. Obviously, this file is getting quite
> >large. I was hoping people might have suggestions on how to reduce the
> >size of the file without reducing the image quality too much. It's
> >only going to get bigger haha. I've got no experience with vector
> >based programs, is that the direction I need to head?
>
> Gimp is a bitmap (raster) editor, works in pixels not feet and inches. It
> can
> display in feet and inches but your individual canvas (tile) depends on
> how it
> is set up with a pixels-per inch (PPI) value.
>
> Since you started many years ago when the default was 72 PPI the tile size
> might
> be 864 x 648 pixels. Then file size also depends on greyscale or colour
> (RGB)
> RGB making larger files than greyscale.
>
> Can you give details - pixel size - grey/RGB/indexed or post one of your
> individual images (a tile)
>
> For a greyscale image one tile might be about 4 MB **in memory** so a
> complete
> 20' x 20' image 500+ tiles might be 2 GB - look at the bottom of the Gimp
> window
> for size in memory. Colour will be larger again. Not impossible for a
> modern
> computer but probably slow-as-a-snail for manipulating. Obviously when
> saved,
> the file is compressed and smaller.
>
> Making smaller? The only way in Gimp is scale each tile down (or the
> whole) but
> that will result in degradation of the image.
>
> Use SVG? Inkscape can convert a raster image to a vector but it all
> depends on
> the image. Better chance with line drawings than colour images. A vector
> should
> be smaller than the corresponding bitmap and of course scales up and down
> without loss of quality.
>
> Stitching together in Inkscape? Never tried 500+ images before. Do not
> know if
> practical or possible.
>
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[Gimp-user] Huge image problem

2019-07-06 Thread rich404
>Hi,
>So I am working on a many years long map making project. I am using a
>scale of 1" to 10 miles and hand drawing it on 9x12" panels of paper.
>The current size of the map is about 20 by 20 feet. This is obviously
>too large to see in one place, so I have been using GIMP to panel them
>together in a digital file. Obviously, this file is getting quite
>large. I was hoping people might have suggestions on how to reduce the
>size of the file without reducing the image quality too much. It's
>only going to get bigger haha. I've got no experience with vector
>based programs, is that the direction I need to head?

Gimp is a bitmap (raster) editor, works in pixels not feet and inches. It can
display in feet and inches but your individual canvas (tile) depends on how it
is set up with a pixels-per inch (PPI) value.

Since you started many years ago when the default was 72 PPI the tile size might
be 864 x 648 pixels. Then file size also depends on greyscale or colour (RGB)
RGB making larger files than greyscale.

Can you give details - pixel size - grey/RGB/indexed or post one of your
individual images (a tile)

For a greyscale image one tile might be about 4 MB **in memory** so a  complete
20' x 20' image 500+ tiles might be 2 GB - look at the bottom of the Gimp window
for size in memory. Colour will be larger again. Not impossible for a modern
computer but probably slow-as-a-snail for manipulating. Obviously when saved,
the file is compressed and smaller.

Making smaller? The only way in Gimp is scale each tile down (or the whole) but
that will result in degradation of the image.

Use SVG? Inkscape can convert a raster image to a vector but it all depends on
the image. Better chance with line drawings than colour images. A vector should
be smaller than the corresponding bitmap and of course scales up and down
without loss of quality.

Stitching together in Inkscape? Never tried 500+ images before. Do not know if
practical or possible.

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Re: [Gimp-user] from the shadows . . .

2019-07-06 Thread Liam R. E. Quin
On Sat, 2019-06-29 at 16:19 +, dep wrote:
> when i use the shadow control to bring detail out of the muck, past
> a  certain point it also adds blotchiness to areas such as the sky.
Make sure your image is in 16 or 32-bit mode, under image->precision.

When i tried, i found i got blotchiness in some images, as if the
filter was running at a lower resolution and pixellated things.

It might be worth a bug report, as clearly we want the filter to be
useful :)

Or if you discover an answer, please let us know.

Liam (slave ankh)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Huge image problem

2019-07-06 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2019-07-06 at 16:24 +0200, btt wrote:
>  I was hoping people might have
> suggestions on how to reduce the size of the file without reducing
> the image quality too much.

> It's only going to get bigger haha. I've got no experience with
> vector based
> programs, is that the direction I need to head?

Almost certainly. Without seeing the image it’s hard to know, but try
Inkscape with a small section, and use the trace option. Note that,
unlike in most programs, the Inkscape dialogue boxes don't go away when
you press OK, so keep an eye on the status bar to see if it changes
from One Image Selected to Path with 13,293,022 nodes (or whatever).

Then you can try path->simplify and if that doesn't change the
appearnce too much it'll be smaller.

Liam (slave ankh)


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[Gimp-user] Huge image problem

2019-07-06 Thread btt
Hi,
So I am working on a many years long map making project. I am using a scale of
1" to 10 miles and hand drawing it on 9x12" panels of paper. The current size of
the map is about 20 by 20 feet. This is obviously too large to see in one place,
so I have been using GIMP to panel them together in a digital file. Obviously,
this file is getting quite large. I was hoping people might have suggestions on
how to reduce the size of the file without reducing the image quality too much.
It's only going to get bigger haha. I've got no experience with vector based
programs, is that the direction I need to head?

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[Gimp-user] Thickening/darkening lines of scanned images

2019-07-06 Thread rich404
>Hello
>
>I’m a newbie to Gimp. Please could you help! 
>
>I’ve collated self portraits from a class of 30 pupils to create
>artwork for a printed tea towel. Each self portrait is very different,
>varying from, pencil, felt tip pens, crayons to biro. Some black and
>white, most are in colour. Every picture has been scanned in ready to
>create the artwork.
>
>My problem is, how can I thicken and darken very thin/faint lines of
>scanned images? And is there a quick way of doing this?
>I really don’t want to be using a paint brush/or pencil tool going
>round each image, as this will take me a very long time!
>
>Thanks

As with everything graphics, all depends on the image(s).  Assuming Gimp 2.10
and Windows

First thing to try is Filters -> Generic -> Erode which grows dark areas. Try
applying a couple of times. See: comparison screenshot.

If they are reasonably clean scans  then you should get a result. Otherwise:

For something more sophisticated but still easy to use, try the Gimp gmic
plug-in www.gmic.eu  There is a Windows installer for Gimp 2.10. This has
hundreds of filters for various effects but there is one - repair scanned
documents. See: screenshot.  Adjust sliders to suit.

Attachments:
* https://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1207/original/01-darken.jpg
* https://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1208/original/02-darken.jpg

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[Gimp-user] download the user manual

2019-07-06 Thread rich404
>how do I download the user manual for Windows 10?  when I click on
>download it pops up different section but its not in English...

Assuming you have Gimp 2.10.x installed

There is no down-loadable / install-able Gimp 2.10 help for Windows users at the
moment. You have a choice, use the on-line version which should take you to:

https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/

Problems with language / help browser If your computer is set up for non-English
check in Edit -> Preferences -> Interface -> and try changing from System
Language to EN (if it is there)

or download and install the previous Gimp 2.8 help
https://download.gimp.org/mirror/pub/gimp/help/windows/2.8/2.8.2/gimp-help-2-2.8.2-en-setup.exe

This does install and work and might be sufficient for general use, although
obviously the new features of Gimp 2.10 are not there.

Edit -> Preference -> Help System The built-in help browser option is broken,
change to  web browser.

If all of that does not work (high probability) then there is a Gimp 2.10 help
in PDF format at  http://gimp.linux.it/www/meta/ 1000 pages indexed.

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