Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-19 Thread Gene Heskett 
On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote:

> The 'text problem' has been discussed many times, and the root cause
> is people not understanding how the tools works. I did (for my own
> satisfaction) quite a lot of fiddling with the tool + its options, and
> I've been able to reproduce all the issues that I've seen reported. As
> far as I can recall the issue was that the users were trying to change
> things in two places, in the on screen editor, and in the tool
> options. Changes in the on screen editor only apply to that box.
> Changes to the tool options apply to either the current box or the
> next box created. Changes to the current box are never (so far as I
> can make out) applied to the tool options. There is no hidden default.
> The tool options can be changed and are saved between sessions and the
> next time you open GIMP they will be the same as they were when you
> last shut down.
>
> Cliff

I wish that were true, but I've had to expand the size of the font from 
invisible to 100 points or more for every box of text I've used to add 
captions or labels to a picture for at least 20 years. If its a tool 
option, tell me please how to set it so its big enough to be read by 
default. I ATM, have whatever version is std for debian stretch.

Thanks.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-19 Thread Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list 
The 'text problem' has been discussed many times, and the root cause is
people not understanding how the tools works. I did (for my own
satisfaction) quite a lot of fiddling with the tool + its options, and I've
been able to reproduce all the issues that I've seen reported. As far as I
can recall the issue was that the users were trying to change things in two
places, in the on screen editor, and in the tool options. Changes in the on
screen editor only apply to that box. Changes to the tool options apply to
either the current box or the next box created. Changes to the current box
are never (so far as I can make out) applied to the tool options. There is
no hidden default. The tool options can be changed and are saved between
sessions and the next time you open GIMP they will be the same as they were
when you last shut down.

Cliff

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 11:20 PM Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <
gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote:

> On 19/10/2021 07:36, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > It has been described on the mailing list about ten times, and it keeps
> > falling on deaf ear.  Try using it and see for yourself how it keeps
> > defaulting to size 64 fonts and you can't force it to change accept by
> > luck and seridipity.
>
>
> Uh? To change the default font size, you change it in the tool options,
> and then have the tool options saved in Preferences (for which there are
> basically two strategies, saved options each time when you exit, or save
> options once for all). You can also use tool presets...
>
> Otherwise, "described in the mailing list" isn't the same as "reported
> in the bug tracker".
>
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Please take my name of the list

2021-10-19 Thread Ofnuts via gimp-user-list 

See at the bottom this post the URL of the list subscription management
page (List Membership), then see the bottom of the page.

On 19/10/2021 19:21, Fons de Wit wrote:

Please, t as let my name of the list

Envoyé par moi!
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Hangout - NYLXS] Debian 11, updated, Gimp 2.10.22 - bad clone tool

2021-10-19 Thread Liam R E Quin 
On Tue, 2021-10-19 at 15:48 -0300, Dedeco Balaco via gimp-user-list
wrote:
> 
> > 
> > why does autoconf not just work?
> [...]

> . And the error is not in 'autoconf', but when i try the first
> step: './configure'
> 
> Should i start it differently?

If the error is "configure: not found" or
bash: ./configure: No  such file or directory
you need to run autogen.sh, using the --prefix=$HOME/opt option.

Unless you have, say, 64G of RAM or more, /dev/shm isn't a good
destination to use really.

To build GIMP  2.10.28 on an older Debian Linux, you will need to start
with building the following:
libmypaint (the 1.3 branch)
libgtk+2, libgdk2, glib from gnome, using jhbuild
babl (with meson; i'm not sure autoconf is still supported for babl and
gegl)
gegl
Install ALL of these into a custom prefix - if you put them into
/usr/local or / you will break your system.
Some of these have additional  dependencies themselves.

GIMP is a very large and complex program.

Then finally you can take the gimp 2.10.28 source tarball and run
./autogen.sh --help, which will take a while and then list options.

Then you can run it again with the options you need -- including --
prefix above all.

But the Wiki page i shared with you the other day says all of this and
more.

If you want to build _older_ GIMP releases, don't bother - you'll need
to run them in a virtual machine with the appropriate Linux release in
it, e.g. using docker.

And having said  all of that, you do not need to rebuild GIMP to get
clone working without the Alt key. I just tried here and it  works
fine.

The one time i've seen a problem with Clone was when i had some
accessibility options enabled that show the current location of the
mouse  pointer with concentric  rings when i press control - with that
enabled the clone tool stopped working.

If that's  not what is going  on  for you, try renaming your gimp 
profile folder and then starting gimp.

Liam


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Re: [Gimp-user] script-fu question

2021-10-19 Thread Kevin Cozens 

On 2021-10-16 7:56 a.m., att80 att.net wrote:

1. I obtain the following warning:
    (/usr/lib64/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/script-fu/script-fu) is installing procedure 
"script-fu-apply-grid2" with a full menu path "/Script-Fu/Muntins" as 
menu label,
    this deprecated and will be an error in GIMP 3.0    I see other 
posts regarding this warming but no guidance on what the current practice is to 
define a menu label.


The script name and full menu path goes in to a script-fu-menu-register 
call. It has been that way since GIMP 2.4, IIRC. You can see examples of it 
in any of the scripts that are shipped with GIMP. It is also mentioned in 
the page at https://static.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Scheme/



2. I get the following message when I close gimp after running the script:
         eEeek! 1 GeglBuffers leaked
  I assume I have an image still active based upon google searching.  I 
have created two images (image and image1).  When I use gimp-image-delete, one 
is deleted and I get an error indicating that it does not exist. [snip]
   (gimp-display-new image)


I didn't go through the script in detail as it was rather long. I did notice 
the above. You are creating a new display but did not save the image ID. You 
need to pay attention to functions that return a value and do something with 
the return values.


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Hangout - NYLXS] Debian 11, updated, Gimp 2.10.22 - bad clone tool

2021-10-19 Thread Dedeco Balaco via gimp-user-list 



Em 19/10/2021 02:55, facebook escreveu:
> On 10/18/21 21:14, Dedeco Balaco via gimp-user-list wrote:
>> I gave up compiling Gimp. It is too complex to compile. It demands
>> libraries of specific versions, and not only this. They also have to be
>> in specific intervals. Open source? Yes. But to compile it is a hard
>> work. So... not for normal people who just want to solve simple
>> problems, or change simple details which cannot be changed in settings.
>
> why does autoconf not just work?
>
Do you want to help me doing it? But it seems it will need library and
package versions which cannot be (normally) installed in my Debian.

If you want, i can show some terminal output of what happens when i try
to compile. And the error is not in 'autoconf', but when i try the first
step: './configure'

Should i start it differently?



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[Gimp-user] Please take my name of the list

2021-10-19 Thread Fons de Wit 

Please, t as let my name of the list

Envoyé par moi! 
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Hangout - NYLXS] Debian 11, updated, Gimp 2.10.22 - bad clone tool

2021-10-19 Thread Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list 
On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 01:55:19AM -0400, facebook wrote:
> On 10/18/21 21:14, Dedeco Balaco via gimp-user-list wrote:
> > I gave up compiling Gimp. It is too complex to compile. It demands
> > libraries of specific versions, and not only this. They also have to be
> > in specific intervals. Open source? Yes. But to compile it is a hard
> > work. So... not for normal people who just want to solve simple
> > problems, or change simple details which cannot be changed in settings.
> 
> 
> why does autoconf not just work?
> 
What has autoconf got to do with it ?  If you try to compile a
package from git which lacks a configure script but provides
configure.ac, or sometimes if you patch the package, you need to
run autoconf - with the correct switches and, for some packages or
switches, you will need gtk-doc.

But for a normal release just use configure.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Problem with paintbrush tool

2021-10-19 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list 
Hi Judy!

I suspect that you have the wrong kind of painting dynamics selected:

https://i.imgur.com/bBmuCUk.png

Please click on the icon to the left of the selected area and choose
"Dynamics Off" in the dropdown list.

Please note that if you use a graphic tablet (Wacom etc.), this will
disable pen pressure. If you only use a mouse, you should be fine.

Alex

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 6:33 PM Judy  wrote:
>
> I am a 78 yr old female, not professional, but I have been using the
> GIMP for 20 years, doing photo editing that is pretty simple. I am not a
> nerd/geek, my husband is. Most things on this list are way over my head.
> We use Kubutu operating system. GIMP has changed a lot of things lately
> and I've managed to get most of what I want/like to use.
>
> BUT now in the Tool Options, I have a paint brush that is a star. When I
> use it, it whirls around and I don't know how to stop it. Other brushes
> I created also do it. I can't find out how to stop that. It didn't use
> to do it.
>
> I still use the multi-windows what I love.
>
> Thanks for any simple help.
>
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[Gimp-user] Problem with paintbrush tool

2021-10-19 Thread Judy 
I am a 78 yr old female, not professional, but I have been using the 
GIMP for 20 years, doing photo editing that is pretty simple. I am not a 
nerd/geek, my husband is. Most things on this list are way over my head. 
We use Kubutu operating system. GIMP has changed a lot of things lately 
and I've managed to get most of what I want/like to use.


BUT now in the Tool Options, I have a paint brush that is a star. When I 
use it, it whirls around and I don't know how to stop it. Other brushes 
I created also do it. I can't find out how to stop that. It didn't use 
to do it.


I still use the multi-windows what I love.

Thanks for any simple help.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp on Microsoft Store

2021-10-19 Thread Rick Strong 
Although I love "free" ethical software and appreciate the tremendous effort 
that goes into it, there is a place for copyright in this big, bad world 
(but not for GIMP, please).


-Original Message- 
From: lawrenceramey1--- via gimp-user-list

Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 1:06 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] Gimp on Microsoft Store

Yellow Elephant Productions is selling a modified version of GIMP on the
Microsoft Store that appears to be full of bugs from the reviews. The
company {or person} has not even changed the Name of program; it is listed
as GIMP. This shines a BAD light on this program. 


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Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-19 Thread Ofnuts via gimp-user-list 

On 19/10/2021 07:36, Ruben Safir wrote:

It has been described on the mailing list about ten times, and it keeps
falling on deaf ear.  Try using it and see for yourself how it keeps
defaulting to size 64 fonts and you can't force it to change accept by
luck and seridipity.



Uh? To change the default font size, you change it in the tool options,
and then have the tool options saved in Preferences (for which there are
basically two strategies, saved options each time when you exit, or save
options once for all). You can also use tool presets...

Otherwise, "described in the mailing list" isn't the same as "reported
in the bug tracker".


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Hangout - NYLXS] Debian 11, updated, Gimp 2.10.22 - bad clone tool

2021-10-19 Thread facebook 
On 10/18/21 21:14, Dedeco Balaco via gimp-user-list wrote:
> I gave up compiling Gimp. It is too complex to compile. It demands
> libraries of specific versions, and not only this. They also have to be
> in specific intervals. Open source? Yes. But to compile it is a hard
> work. So... not for normal people who just want to solve simple
> problems, or change simple details which cannot be changed in settings.


why does autoconf not just work?



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[Gimp-user] script-fu question

2021-10-19 Thread att80 att.net 
Hi,
I recently wrote a script for gimp with script-fu.  I have two questions.  I 
would kindly appreciate any suggestions.

1. I obtain the following warning:
   (/usr/lib64/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/script-fu/script-fu) is installing 
procedure "script-fu-apply-grid2" with a full menu path 
"/Script-Fu/Muntins" as menu label, 
   this deprecated and will be an error in GIMP 3.0    I see other 
posts regarding this warming but no guidance on what the current practice is to 
define a menu label.  Can you please advise on how the menu label should be    
described?
2. I get the following message when I close gimp after running the script:
        eEeek! 1 GeglBuffers leaked
 I assume I have an image still active based upon google searching.  I have 
created two images (image and image1).  When I use gimp-image-delete, one is 
deleted and I get an error indicating that it does not exist.  Before I attempt 
to delete the images. I use gimp-image-list which indicates that I have two 
images and there id's.  After I delete the delectable image, I run 
gimp-image-list again.  It reports 1 image but no id.  No wonder I can not 
delete is since there is no id.  The script is shown below.  It reads in a 
transparent svg file, puts iton a whte background and then selects nine region 
in a matrix pattern with each selection written to a file.  Would anyone have 
advise on this issue?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Al
(define (script-fu-muntin infile ext)
  (define (filename-basename orig-name)
    (car (strbreakup orig-name ".")))
  (define base (filename-basename infile))
  (set! base (string-append base "_"))
  (define num  #("1" "2" "3" "4" "5" "6" "7" "8" "9"))
  (define idx)
  (define outfile)
  (define h0 1080)
  (define w0 1920)
  (define h1 3314)
  (define w1 5834)
  
; determine svg aspect ratio
  (define image0 (let ((image0 (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE infile 
"" image0))
  (define w (car (gimp-image-width image0)))
  (define h (car (gimp-image-height image0)))
  (gimp-image-delete image0)
  (define w1a (round (* (/ w h) h1)))
  (define off_set (round (/ (- w1a w1) 2)))

; read in the svb to the desired size and define canvas1 for pasting the cutout 
selection to
;  (let* ((image (car (file-svg-load  RUN-NONINTERACTIVE infile infile 90. w1a 
h1 0)));
;     (layer (car (gimp-layer-new image w1 h1 RGB-IMAGE "canvas" 100 
LAYER-MODE-NORMAL)))
;     (image1 (car (gimp-image-new w0 h0 RGB)))
;     (layer1 (car (gimp-layer-new image1 w0 h0 RGB-IMAGE "canvas1" 100 
LAYER-MODE-NORMAL)))
;     )
;    )
  (define image (let* ((image (car (file-svg-load  RUN-NONINTERACTIVE infile 
infile 90. w1a h1 0 image))
  (define layer (let* ((layer (car (gimp-layer-new image w1 h1 RGB-IMAGE 
"canvas" 100 LAYER-MODE-NORMAL layer))
  (define image1 (let* ((image1 (car (gimp-image-new w0 h0 RGB image1))
  (define layer1 (let* ((layer1 (car (gimp-layer-new image1 w0 h0 RGB-IMAGE 
"canvas1" 100 LAYER-MODE-NORMAL layer1))
  (gimp-image-insert-layer image layer 0 1)
  (gimp-drawable-fill layer WHITE-FILL)
  (gimp-layer-set-offsets layer off_set 0)
;  (define layers2 (gimp-image-merge-visible-layers image EXPAND-AS-NECESSARY)) 
  
  (gimp-image-merge-visible-layers image EXPAND-AS-NECESSARY)   
  (gimp-image-resize-to-layers image)
  (gimp-displays-flush)
;  (define image2 (gimp-display-new image))    
  (gimp-display-new image)    
  (define drawable (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image)))
;    (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image drawable "batman_logo0.png" 
"batman_logo_0.png")

  (gimp-image-insert-layer image1 layer1 0 0)
  (gimp-displays-flush)
  (define drawable1 (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image1)))    

; generate 9 images in a 3x3 matrix pattern and write out selection  
  (define sel-float)
  (define idx)
  (define outfile)
  (define x 0)
  (define y 0)
  (define i 0)
  (while (< x (* 3 w0))
     (define w x)
     (set! y 0)
     (while (< y (* 3 h0))
        (define h y)
        (gimp-image-select-rectangle image CHANNEL-OP-REPLACE w h w0 h0)
;        (define drawable2 (gimp-edit-copy drawable))
        (gimp-edit-copy drawable)    
        (set! sel-float (car (gimp-edit-paste drawable1 FALSE)))
        (gimp-floating-sel-anchor sel-float)
        (gimp-displays-flush)
        (set! idx (vector-ref num i))
        (set! outfile (string-append base idx "." ext))
        (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE image1 drawable1 outfile "")
        (set! y (+ y (+ h0 37)))
        (set! i (+ i 1))
        )
     (set! x (+ x (+ w0 37)))
     )

;determine image count  
  (define n (car (gimp-image-list)))
  (gimp-message (number->string n))
  (define m (car (cdr (gimp-image-list
  (define j 0)
  (while (< j n)
     (define value (vector-ref m j))
     (gimp-message (number->string value))
     (set! j (+ j 1))
     )
  
  (gimp-selection-none image)
  (gimp-image-delete image1)

; determine image count
  (define n (car (gimp-image-list)))
  (gimp-message

[Gimp-user] Gimp on Microsoft Store

2021-10-19 Thread lawrenceramey1--- via gimp-user-list 
Yellow Elephant Productions is selling a modified version of GIMP on the
Microsoft Store that appears to be full of bugs from the reviews. The
company {or person} has not even changed the Name of program; it is listed
as GIMP. This shines a BAD light on this program.

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Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence

2021-10-19 Thread Ruben Safir 
> > Anything else you want to push inapropriately in the thread?
> 
> No. This one should be enough, 

and yet you continue.  Which part of you're being inapropriate is not
being made clear?  And which part of that GNOME uses GOOGLE to search
its archives on its website don't you understand?

> 
> Best regards
> 

If you meant for my best regards you wouldn't had started with this.



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