Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 22:17 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 14:50 -0500, Pat David via gimp-user-list wrote: 
> > Anecdata.  Unless you have some good  examples where this is actually
> > an "unmanageable mess".
> > My experiences have mostly been just fine with mixed ML/web access.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> how about "some good examples" of Discourse mailing list multipart
> emails with intact threads and some of those Discourse mailing list
> multipart emails with plain text that is unmodified and a few additional
> emails with proper quoting?
> 
> I ask for emails, not for the way it's displayed by the forum.
> 
> TIA,
> Ralf

PS:

Here is an email that describes the issue [1].

This are two examples of the way it's done by Discourse:

References: 

In-Reply-To: 
References: 

What we get is a thread
|--email
|--email

What we don't get is a complete thread tree
|--email
   |--email


[1]
 Forwarded Message 
From: Pete Biggs via GNOME Discourse 
Reply-To: GNOME Discourse

To: ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com
Subject: [Site Feedback] Email usage of discourse - threading
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 13:33:30 +

  PeteB Pete Biggs 
October 21
I (and others from Evolution mailing list) are trying to get to grips
with using discourse in a mailing list type way.
One thing I’ve noticed is that the threading information on the emails
doesn’t seem to be working. None of the message IDs in the References:
header match up with other emails from the topic. I would expect a reply
to at least mention the message ID from the messages it’s replying to,
but it doesn’t seem to.
Things are made more complex in that I don’t seem to be notified about
my own posts - so that any threads that I reply to are essentially
broken.
The only consistent threading reference is to the original topic - i.e.
 so at least the specific topic seems
to stay together - but even that breaks occasionally.
Does anyone seriously use Discourse exclusively by email?
P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Pat David via gimp-user-list
>
> That's never the problem.  The problem with discourse is when some ppl
> use it as a web forum and others use it as an ML.  Especially within the
> same thread.  It all descends into an unmanageable mess.   :-(
>

Anecdata.  Unless you have some good  examples where this is actually an
"unmanageable mess".
My experiences have mostly been just fine with mixed ML/web access.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 6:32 AM Brad Rogers  wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 12:06:44 +0200
> Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list  wrote:
>
> Hello Michael,
>
> >Personally, I think that Discourse will be more than able to handle this
>
> That's never the problem.  The problem with discourse is when some ppl
> use it as a web forum and others use it as an ML.  Especially within the
> same thread.  It all descends into an unmanageable mess.   :-(
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 12:06:44 +0200
Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list  wrote:

Hello Michael,

>Personally, I think that Discourse will be more than able to handle this

That's never the problem.  The problem with discourse is when some ppl
use it as a web forum and others use it as an ML.  Especially within the
same thread.  It all descends into an unmanageable mess.   :-(

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Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Michael Schumacher via gimp-user-list



Am 25.10.22 um 11:13 schrieb Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list:

an important part of the app communities are the app developers, the
admins and moderators of the current lists at gnome.org, hence a first
step to get closer to a solution are statements from those people.


For the gimp-user list, the number of messages created in the "list
discontinuation" threads (roughly 100 by now) is fast approaching the
number of messages this list has had in total before that for the whole
year (about 110).


Personally, I think that Discourse will be more than able to handle this
amount of messaging, will likely even lead to an increase in volume, and
be able to reach more people in general.


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Michael


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Evolution] [evolution-users] What do I do now?

2022-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf via gimp-user-list
On Tue, 2022-10-25 at 16:02 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> losses will occur.
> 
> Some of the people on some of the gnome lists, are being quite vocal 
> about all kinds of possibilities, but, seem to be doing nothing about 
> any of the possibilities.

Hi,

an important part of the app communities are the app developers, the
admins and moderators of the current lists at gnome.org, hence a first
step to get closer to a solution are statements from those people.

We all or at least most of us were surprised and disorganized, the next
step is to become more organised.

Regards,
Ralf

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