Re: [Gimp-user] Use GIMP for commercial / business purposes?

2012-02-13 Thread Daniel Smith
Have there been lawsuits or fines regarding open source
cases though? It's funny, for all the times I've heard of for
example Microsoft or Adobe or whoever being involved in these
evaluations of businesses where they check for licenses etc,
and massive levies afterward, (whether the stories were real
or created) I've never heard of any open source lawsuits or snares.
Just wondering what you meant by testing your luck.
Dan
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Re: [Gimp-user] Use GIMP for commercial / business purposes?

2012-02-13 Thread Frank Gore
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Daniel Smith opened...@gmail.com wrote:
 Have there been lawsuits or fines regarding open source
 cases though? It's funny, for all the times I've heard of for
 example Microsoft or Adobe or whoever being involved in these
 evaluations of businesses where they check for licenses etc,
 and massive levies afterward, (whether the stories were real
 or created) I've never heard of any open source lawsuits or snares.
 Just wondering what you meant by testing your luck.

Yes, the GPL has been tested in many courts. There are a few examples
on the GPL Wikipedia page. Many of the decisions were handed down as
judgments, not just as settlements between parties.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Use GIMP for commercial / business purposes?

2012-02-12 Thread Frank Gore
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:09 AM, Kekko for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 Do you mean it is possible to sell GIMP itself? Can I put an item GIMP sw 
 in an invoice?
 I' don't think it is possible or am I wrong?

Yes, you are wrong. You can charge money for distributing Gimp. As
long as either:

a) you haven't modified it
or
b) if you have modified it, you can provide all the source code
(including modifications) for free or a reasonable cost (ie. at no
profit)

Anyone can distribute GPL'd software for a fee. It's just not a very
successful business model most of the time.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Use GIMP for commercial / business purposes?

2012-02-12 Thread Simon Budig
Frank Gore (g...@friendlyphotozone.com) wrote:
 Yes, you are wrong. You can charge money for distributing Gimp. As
 long as either:
 
 a) you haven't modified it
 or
 b) if you have modified it, you can provide all the source code
 (including modifications) for free or a reasonable cost (ie. at no
 profit)

Your distinction between these two cases is not exactly true. Even when
you distribute an unmodified Gimp you're required to provide the
sourcecode to your customer on request. The easiest way of course is to
provide the sourcecode archive on the same medium you use to distribute
the Gimp binary, even without the customers request.

The fact that the typical free software project has a prominent presence
on the net does not release you from the obligation to provide the
source code to your customers (think about a project dropping from the
net, this would leave your customers out in the dark...).

Just a minor nitpick   :)

Bye,
 Simon

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Re: [Gimp-user] Use GIMP for commercial / business purposes?

2012-02-12 Thread Daniel Smith
thanks all.
dan
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Re: [Gimp-user] Use GIMP for commercial / business purposes?

2012-02-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:09:21 +0100, Kekko wrote:

 Do you mean it is possible to sell GIMP itself? Can I put an item GIMP sw 
 in an invoice?
 I' don't think it is possible or am I wrong?

You can, as long as you stay within the requirements of the GPL.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Use GIMP for commercial / business purposes?

2012-02-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:40:33 -0500, Frank Gore wrote:

 Wrong. Nowhere does it say that YOU must personally make the source
 code available, only that it must be available. In this case, the
 source code already happens to be readily available all over the web.
 Only if you modify it and then distribute a binary based on the
 modified code must you provide the modified source code.
 
 Hello,
 Thank you for your request. The source code you asked about can be
 downloaded from http://www.gimp.org;

FSF's GPL FAQ covers this specific case and says you normally can't do
that:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-faq.html#SourceAndBinaryOnDifferentSites
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-faq.html#UnchangedJustBinary


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Re: [Gimp-user] Use GIMP for commercial / business purposes?

2012-02-11 Thread Daniel Smith
But what about fonts?
I assume that all fonts would have to be registered,
or how do you work that?
Just wondering.
Dan
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