[Gimp-web] SGO to WGO Transition

2015-11-20 Thread Pat David
I'm afk for most of the day today, with sporadic phone connectivity.  I'll
do my best to address any questions.  Anything more complex will have to
wait until the evening here (-06:00UTC).

The new site SGO (http://static.gimp.org) is ready to be migrated whenever
it's needed.  I have also put a simple file as a news post for the 20th
anniversary.  It's a markdown file located in the source at:

/content/news/2015-11-18 20-years-of-gimp.md

If someone (looking at prokoudine) wanted to write an announcement, this is
the file to do it.  If you don't have the build environment up, feel free
to email me the .md file and I'll put it up this evening ahead of a
switchover.

If you _do_ have the environment up to build, then notice that the file has
a "Status: draft" right now.  This will publish the post only in the
/drafts/ directory, and will not include it anywhere else in the site (or
news feeds) until you remove that piece of metadata, or change it to
"Status: published".

If there are any lingering things that need to be addressed (there are),
I'll get to them after we push the new site.  I don't think there's
anything that's a show-stopper at the moment.  If so, please let me know
asap, and I'll try to get it patched up this evening.

Thank you everyone who helped out and gave me (much needed) feedback!
Happy 20th, GIMPers!

pat david
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Re: [Gimp-web] [Gimp-developer] SGO to WGO Transition

2015-11-20 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Pat David wrote:
> I'm afk for most of the day today, with sporadic phone connectivity.  I'll
> do my best to address any questions.  Anything more complex will have to
> wait until the evening here (-06:00UTC).
>
> The new site SGO (http://static.gimp.org) is ready to be migrated whenever
> it's needed.  I have also put a simple file as a news post for the 20th
> anniversary.  It's a markdown file located in the source at:
>
> /content/news/2015-11-18 20-years-of-gimp.md
>
> If someone (looking at prokoudine) wanted to write an announcement, this is
> the file to do it.  If you don't have the build environment up, feel free
> to email me the .md file and I'll put it up this evening ahead of a
> switchover.

I'll only be able to have a go at it tomorrow morning (I'm in
+3:00UTC), and I'm still to complete release notes for 2.9.2.

> If there are any lingering things that need to be addressed (there are),
> I'll get to them after we push the new site.  I don't think there's
> anything that's a show-stopper at the moment.  If so, please let me know
> asap, and I'll try to get it patched up this evening.

Debug messages in the footer of every page?

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-web] [Gimp-developer] WGO Transition Meeting

2015-11-20 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi,

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Pat David  wrote:
> We had a meeting today on #gimp-web around what needs to be done to the new
> site (SGO) as we transition to replace the old one (WGO).

As promised, a few more notes. This is not exhaustive, and I am mostly
focusing on the download page, which is the most important in my
opinion. I may have already told you some of the things below at some
previous points in time. Sorry for the duplicate if that is the case.

== Download Page ==

- BSD and Solaris are *not* GNU/Linux distributions.
Either we replace the link s$GNU/Linux$/UNIX-Like$ (like in the
section title actually!), or we make separate sections for these. I'd
be in favor of the second. This makes these builds feel less like
second-class citizens.
Also it would be cool to have some more details for these other than
just basically "GIMP can run there".

- I don't really see the point of keeping the "All" section by the way.

- Already told earlier, but when an accurate distribution detection is
performed (my case. It perfectly detects Fedora), I would suggest to
hide details for all other distributions (with a link "show
instructions for other GNU/Linux distributions). Right now we are a
little overwhelmed by information.
Of course when a GNU/Linux distribution is detected but the exact
distribution not known (or undetected), show instructions for all
distributions as of now.

- Isn't there repositories with GIMP in Redhat? This is one of the
biggest distributions, especially in corporate world, and it feels a
little sad to not have GIMP official support there. I would assume
they use package management systems similar to Fedora but with their
own (stabler) repositories. No?

- What is the logics for order of names in "Ubuntu, Mint, Debian"? I
would suggest alphabetical order.

- Why do we give checksum for all 2.8 releases? Why not just
checksum(s) for latest release only (we don't want people to install
2.8.0 if possible).
For people who will want to do so, for whatever reason, the checksums
are available in the download server anyway.

- Only Windows has mention of GIMP user manual (other than the link in
the sources section, which means people have to build them from
sources). Yet most Linux distribution will also provide the gimp-help
package. We should add such an information and advise people to also
install help packages from their package manager.
As an example, for Fedora, they can run `dnf install gimp-help` and
`dnf install 
gimp-help-(ca|da|de|el|en_GB|es|fr|it|ja|ko|nl|nn|pt_BR|ru|sl|sv|zh_CN).

No idea about OSX but obviously if there is similarly an easy way to
install the help pages, let's write it down.

- By the way, can we have a lang detection rather than the full list
of languages available, with a link "show other langs" to display
optionally other lang?

Let's say that's it for now.
Bye!

Jehan

> The consensus was that there are still a few things to iron out, but that
> we should be able to announce the new site in time to coincide with our
> 20th anniversary on November 21.
>
> I am still soliciting any input that anyone would like to add (bonus points
> if you actually use bugzilla to ease the tracking and classification of
> feedback:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=browse.html&product=gimp-web).
>
> This is not a comprehensive list of things I'm working on for the site.
> There are still lingering things that I didn't bother to add to the list
> (static image asset social link stuff that's being looked at, including
> donations links for instance).
>
> Below is the list of items and notes from the meeting (
> https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/SGO_Meeting)
>
> SGO Pre-Release meeting
>
> Content
>
>
>- Tutorials Index - being rebuilt - only Free/Libre content from now on!
>
>
>- Not internally linking to old (c) tutorials - but keeping URI's
>
>
>-
>
>
>- Tutorials - add section on contributing new tutorials (how-to), along
>with
>
>
>- message template to send to ML specifying license.
>
>
>- Acceptable licenses?
>
>
>- GFDL
>
>
>- CC-(0|BY)-(SA)? (not accepting NC/ND)
>
>
>- Free Art (http://artlibre.org/)
>
>
>
>- Create a more detailed "how to contribute a tutorial" section.
>
>
>- Consider styling the tutorial list better (date/version/etc?)
>
>
>-
>
>
>- Art
>
>
>- Aryeom is making new download page image + 404 error page image +
>Wilber SVG for tiny icon
>
>
>-
>
>
> Styling (CSS)
>
>-
>
>
>- Header
>
>
>- Put the Wilber/GIMP link back in header on index page (Header nav)
>
>
>
>- Footer
>
>
>- Distribute single column links across three columns in footer
>
>
>
>- There are two styling ideas currently that are similar,
>
>
>- Content pages
>
>
>- News Items
>
>
>- Need to fix some styling to be consistent between the two.
>
>
>-
>
>
>- Fonts
>
>
>- Change  fonts from (Open Sans) weight: 300, color: #777
>
>
>- Change to: weight: