[git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

2013-06-20 Thread JP3


On Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:18:17 AM UTC-7, Eric Gorr wrote:

 Hello. Awhile ago, I came across a rather humorous description of git, but 
 (a) I can't remember exactly how it went or (b) where I saw it. It 
 described git a being a tesseract inside of a manifold or some such thing. 
 Does this ring a bell with anyone? (I did find this 
 http://tartley.com/?p=1267, but that isn't it...I believe it was part of 
 some blog post tutorial.)



On Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:18:17 AM UTC-7, Eric Gorr wrote:

 Hello. Awhile ago, I came across a rather humorous description of git, but 
 (a) I can't remember exactly how it went or (b) where I saw it. It 
 described git a being a tesseract inside of a manifold or some such thing. 
 Does this ring a bell with anyone? (I did find this 
 http://tartley.com/?p=1267, but that isn't it...I believe it was part of 
 some blog post tutorial.)




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Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

2013-06-20 Thread J.P. Casler
hope!!!


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:29 AM, JP3 thirdclassma...@hotmail.com wrote:



 On Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:18:17 AM UTC-7, Eric Gorr wrote:

 Hello. Awhile ago, I came across a rather humorous description of git,
 but (a) I can't remember exactly how it went or (b) where I saw it. It
 described git a being a tesseract inside of a manifold or some such thing.
 Does this ring a bell with anyone? (I did find this
 http://tartley.com/?p=1267, but that isn't it...I believe it was part of
 some blog post tutorial.)



 On Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:18:17 AM UTC-7, Eric Gorr wrote:

 Hello. Awhile ago, I came across a rather humorous description of git,
 but (a) I can't remember exactly how it went or (b) where I saw it. It
 described git a being a tesseract inside of a manifold or some such thing.
 Does this ring a bell with anyone? (I did find this
 http://tartley.com/?p=1267, but that isn't it...I believe it was part of
 some blog post tutorial.)


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Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

2013-06-17 Thread Philip Oakley
But waht we need is the 'translation' as to why it's true ;)

I see that homeomorphic = a one-to-one correspondence, continuous in both 
directions, between the points of two geometric figures or between two 
topological spaces. So I think that means if my SHA1 equals your SHA1 we have 
the same commit tree and DAG.

I'm guessing the sub-manifolds is about branches.

Any more suggestions?

Philip
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Gorr 
  To: git-users@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 2:40 AM
  Subject: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git


  Randomly came across it again...if anyone is interested...

  https://twitter.com/tabqwerty/status/45611899953491968

  git gets easier once you get the basic idea that branches are homeomorphic 
endofunctors mapping submanifolds of a Hilbert space.



  On Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:18:17 PM UTC-4, Eric Gorr wrote:
Hello. Awhile ago, I came across a rather humorous description of git, but 
(a) I can't remember exactly how it went or (b) where I saw it. It described 
git a being a tesseract inside of a manifold or some such thing. Does this ring 
a bell with anyone? (I did find this http://tartley.com/?p=1267, but that isn't 
it...I believe it was part of some blog post tutorial.)




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Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

2013-06-17 Thread Eric Gorr
I to would like to see a translation...

On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:25:02 AM UTC-4, Philip Oakley wrote:

  But waht we need is the 'translation' as to why it's true ;)
  
 I see that homeomorphic = a one-to-one correspondence, continuous in both 
 directions, between the points of two geometric figures or between two 
 topological spaces. So I think that means if my SHA1 equals your SHA1 we 
 have the same commit tree and DAG.
  
 I'm guessing the sub-manifolds is about branches.
  
 Any more suggestions?
  
 Philip

 - Original Message - 
 *From:* Eric Gorr javascript: 
 *To:* git-...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 2:40 AM
 *Subject:* [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

 Randomly came across it again...if anyone is interested...

 https://twitter.com/tabqwerty/status/45611899953491968

 git gets easier once you get the basic idea that branches are 
 homeomorphic endofunctors mapping submanifolds of a Hilbert space.



 On Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:18:17 PM UTC-4, Eric Gorr wrote: 

 Hello. Awhile ago, I came across a rather humorous description of git, 
 but (a) I can't remember exactly how it went or (b) where I saw it. It 
 described git a being a tesseract inside of a manifold or some such thing. 
 Does this ring a bell with anyone? (I did find this 
 http://tartley.com/?p=1267, but that isn't it...I believe it was part of 
 some blog post tutorial.)


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Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

2013-06-17 Thread Philip Oakley
homeomorphic = a one-to-one correspondence, continuous in both directions, 
between the points of two geometric figures or between two topological spaces. 
So I think that means if my SHA1 equals your SHA1 we have the same commit, so 
the same commit tree and DAG, all the way back to all the root commits.

Endofunctor: A functor that maps a category to itself. [commit links to - maps 
to commit]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functor
Mapping: a direct co-respondance between one item and another. (can be one way, 
like streets)

submanifolds:  submanifold of a manifold M is a subset S which itself has the 
structure of a manifold, [Git is branches all the way down. No branch is 
special. These be branches, which link backwards and possibly join up with 
other branches at forks]

[Manifold: a manifold is a topological space that near each point resembles 
Euclidean space. 
Topological means the mathematicians have bent it a bit, Euclidean means its it 
looks all straight with square corners again if you don't look too far, e.g. an 
exhaust manifold of an engine is effectively the same as a straight pipe]
That is, lines of development are locally straight, no matter what the --graph 
option shows!

A Hilbert space H is a real or complex inner product space that is also a 
complete metric space with respect to the distance function induced by the 
inner product.
i.e. a 'space' and a 'product' (function between two items) (that measure a 
'distance') that can 'completely' measure everywhere in the space. i.e. things 
add up properly and no wormholes in space.

found Every directed graph defines a Hilbert space ... 
http://www.austms.org.au/Publ/Jamsa/V82P3/l112.html so it must be true.

So it all sounds true and plausible. It means that many and various 
mathematical (and hence computer science) theories continue to be true in the 
general case and there are no nasty special cases as long as we stick with the 
basic git data model - long live those homeomorphic endofunctors mapping 
submanifolds of a Hilbert space!

A bit more fun education, let it waft over you.

Philip

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Gorr 
  To: git-users@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: Philip Oakley 
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git


  I to would like to see a translation...

  On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:25:02 AM UTC-4, Philip Oakley wrote: 
But waht we need is the 'translation' as to why it's true ;)

I see that homeomorphic = a one-to-one correspondence, continuous in both 
directions, between the points of two geometric figures or between two 
topological spaces. So I think that means if my SHA1 equals your SHA1 we have 
the same commit tree and DAG.

I'm guessing the sub-manifolds is about branches.

Any more suggestions?

Philip
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Gorr 
  To: git-...@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 2:40 AM
  Subject: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git


  Randomly came across it again...if anyone is interested...

  https://twitter.com/tabqwerty/status/45611899953491968

  git gets easier once you get the basic idea that branches are 
homeomorphic endofunctors mapping submanifolds of a Hilbert space.



  On Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:18:17 PM UTC-4, Eric Gorr wrote: 
Hello. Awhile ago, I came across a rather humorous description of git, 
but (a) I can't remember exactly how it went or (b) where I saw it. It 
described git a being a tesseract inside of a manifold or some such thing. Does 
this ring a bell with anyone? (I did find this http://tartley.com/?p=1267, but 
that isn't it...I believe it was part of some blog post tutorial.)




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Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

2013-06-17 Thread Joe Cabezas
oh god!, nice to see you have spare time philip! :D


2013/6/17 Philip Oakley philipoak...@iee.org

 **
 *homeomorphic = a one-to-one correspondence, continuous in both
 directions, between the points of two geometric figures or between two
 topological spaces. So I think that means if my SHA1 equals your SHA1 we
 have the same commit, so the same commit tree and DAG, all the way back to
 all the root commits.*
 **
 *Endofunctor*: A functor that maps a category to itself. [commit links to
 - maps to commit]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functor
 Mapping: a direct co-respondance between one item and another. (can be one
 way, like streets)

 submanifolds:  *submanifold* of a 
 manifoldhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifold
  *M* is a subset http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset *S* which itself
 has the structure of a manifold, [Git is branches all the way down. No
 branch is special. These be branches, which link backwards and possibly
 join up with other branches at forks]

 [Manifold: a *manifold* is a topological 
 spacehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topological_space
  that near each point resembles Euclidean 
 spacehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclidean_space.

 Topological means the mathematicians have bent it a bit, Euclidean means
 its it looks all straight with square corners again if you don't look too
 far, e.g. an exhaust manifold of an engine is effectively the same as a
 straight pipe]
 That is, lines of development are locally straight, no matter what the
 --graph option shows!

 A *Hilbert space* *H* is a realhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_number
  or complex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_number inner product
 space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_product_space that is also a 
 complete
 metric space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_metric_space with
 respect to the distance function induced by the inner product.
 i.e. a 'space' and a 'product' (function between two items) (that measure
 a 'distance') that can 'completely' measure everywhere in the space. i.e.
 things add up properly and no wormholes in space.

 found Every directed graph defines a Hilbert space ...
 http://www.austms.org.au/Publ/Jamsa/V82P3/l112.html so it must be true.

 So it all sounds true and plausible. It means that many and various
 mathematical (and hence computer science) theories continue to be true in
 the general case and there are no nasty special cases as long as we stick
 with the basic git data model - long live those homeomorphic endofunctors
 mapping submanifolds of a Hilbert space!

 A bit more fun education, let it waft over you.

 Philip


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Eric Gorr ericg...@gmail.com
 *To:* git-users@googlegroups.com
 *Cc:* Philip Oakley philipoak...@iee.org
 *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 11:42 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

 I to would like to see a translation...

 On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:25:02 AM UTC-4, Philip Oakley wrote:

  But waht we need is the 'translation' as to why it's true ;)

 I see that homeomorphic = a one-to-one correspondence, continuous in
 both directions, between the points of two geometric figures or between two
 topological spaces. So I think that means if my SHA1 equals your SHA1 we
 have the same commit tree and DAG.

 I'm guessing the sub-manifolds is about branches.

 Any more suggestions?

 Philip

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Eric Gorr
 *To:* git-...@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 2:40 AM
 *Subject:* [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

 Randomly came across it again...if anyone is interested...

 https://twitter.com/tabqwerty/**status/45611899953491968https://twitter.com/tabqwerty/status/45611899953491968

 git gets easier once you get the basic idea that branches are
 homeomorphic endofunctors mapping submanifolds of a Hilbert space.



 On Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:18:17 PM UTC-4, Eric Gorr wrote:

 Hello. Awhile ago, I came across a rather humorous description of git,
 but (a) I can't remember exactly how it went or (b) where I saw it. It
 described git a being a tesseract inside of a manifold or some such thing.
 Does this ring a bell with anyone? (I did find this
 http://tartley.com/?p=1267, but that isn't it...I believe it was part
 of some blog post tutorial.)


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Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

2013-06-17 Thread Philip Oakley
- Original Message - 
  From: Joe Cabezas 
  To: git-users@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: Eric Gorr 
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git


  oh god!, nice to see you have spare time philip! :D
At the moment I'm off sick, coughing and spluttering, so this passes the time...
Glad you liked it. Just need to read why a DAG==Hilbert Space now ;-)


  2013/6/17 Philip Oakley philipoak...@iee.org

homeomorphic = a one-to-one correspondence, continuous in both directions, 
between the points of two geometric figures or between two topological spaces. 
So I think that means if my SHA1 equals your SHA1 we have the same commit, so 
the same commit tree and DAG, all the way back to all the root commits.

Endofunctor: A functor that maps a category to itself. [commit links to - 
maps to commit]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functor
Mapping: a direct co-respondance between one item and another. (can be one 
way, like streets)

submanifolds:  submanifold of a manifold M is a subset S which itself has 
the structure of a manifold, [Git is branches all the way down. No branch is 
special. These be branches, which link backwards and possibly join up with 
other branches at forks]

[Manifold: a manifold is a topological space that near each point resembles 
Euclidean space. 
Topological means the mathematicians have bent it a bit, Euclidean means 
its it looks all straight with square corners again if you don't look too far, 
e.g. an exhaust manifold of an engine is effectively the same as a straight 
pipe]
That is, lines of development are locally straight, no matter what the 
--graph option shows!

A Hilbert space H is a real or complex inner product space that is also a 
complete metric space with respect to the distance function induced by the 
inner product.
i.e. a 'space' and a 'product' (function between two items) (that measure a 
'distance') that can 'completely' measure everywhere in the space. i.e. things 
add up properly and no wormholes in space.

found Every directed graph defines a Hilbert space ... 
http://www.austms.org.au/Publ/Jamsa/V82P3/l112.html so it must be true.

So it all sounds true and plausible. It means that many and various 
mathematical (and hence computer science) theories continue to be true in the 
general case and there are no nasty special cases as long as we stick with the 
basic git data model - long live those homeomorphic endofunctors mapping 
submanifolds of a Hilbert space!

A bit more fun education, let it waft over you.

Philip

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Gorr 
  To: git-users@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: Philip Oakley 
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git


  I to would like to see a translation...

  On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:25:02 AM UTC-4, Philip Oakley wrote: 
But waht we need is the 'translation' as to why it's true ;)

I see that homeomorphic = a one-to-one correspondence, continuous in 
both directions, between the points of two geometric figures or between two 
topological spaces. So I think that means if my SHA1 equals your SHA1 we have 
the same commit tree and DAG.

I'm guessing the sub-manifolds is about branches.

Any more suggestions?

Philip
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Gorr 
  To: git-...@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 2:40 AM
  Subject: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git


  Randomly came across it again...if anyone is interested...

  https://twitter.com/tabqwerty/status/45611899953491968

  git gets easier once you get the basic idea that branches are 
homeomorphic endofunctors mapping submanifolds of a Hilbert space.



  On Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:18:17 PM UTC-4, Eric Gorr wrote: 
Hello. Awhile ago, I came across a rather humorous description of 
git, but (a) I can't remember exactly how it went or (b) where I saw it. It 
described git a being a tesseract inside of a manifold or some such thing. Does 
this ring a bell with anyone? (I did find this http://tartley.com/?p=1267, but 
that isn't it...I believe it was part of some blog post tutorial.)




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Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

2013-06-17 Thread Matthew Johnson
It isn't true. The claim that Git reduces to branches being endofunctors on 
submanifolds of Hilbert spaces is humorous.

After all, one thing I see was overlooked in the attempt to actually make 
sense out of it, looking at definitions, was that there is no notion of 
continuity in Git; but continuity is absolutely essential for 
homeomorphisms (except in graph theory: but that definition does not make 
sense here either). Nor is there a notion corresponding to the fundamental 
form of the Hilbert space.

That said, some of the parallels are highly suggestive. But any 
mathematical description of the fundamentals of Git is going to have to 
rely primarily on discrete mathematics, NOT topology, differential geometry 
or functional analysis.

On Monday, June 17, 2013 2:20:42 PM UTC-7, Philip Oakley wrote:

  - Original Message - 

 *From:* Joe Cabezas javascript: 
 *To:* git-...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 *Cc:* Eric Gorr javascript: 
 *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 9:05 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

 oh god!, nice to see you have spare time philip! :D

 At the moment I'm off sick, coughing and spluttering, so this passes the 
 time...
 Glad you liked it. Just need to read why a DAG==Hilbert Space now ;-)

  2013/6/17 Philip Oakley philip...@iee.org javascript:

 ** 
 *homeomorphic = a one-to-one correspondence, continuous in both 
 directions, between the points of two geometric figures or between two 
 topological spaces. So I think that means if my SHA1 equals your SHA1 we 
 have the same commit, so the same commit tree and DAG, all the way back to 
 all the root commits.*
 ** 
 *Endofunctor*: A functor that maps a category to itself. [commit links 
 to - maps to commit]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functor
 Mapping: a direct co-respondance between one item and another. (can be 
 one way, like streets)
  
 submanifolds:  *submanifold* of a 
 manifoldhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifold
  *M* is a subset http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset *S* which itself 
 has the structure of a manifold, [Git is branches all the way down. No 
 branch is special. These be branches, which link backwards and possibly 
 join up with other branches at forks]
  
 [Manifold: a *manifold* is a topological 
 spacehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topological_space
  that near each point resembles Euclidean 
 spacehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclidean_space. 

 Topological means the mathematicians have bent it a bit, Euclidean means 
 its it looks all straight with square corners again if you don't look too 
 far, e.g. an exhaust manifold of an engine is effectively the same as a 
 straight pipe]
 That is, lines of development are locally straight, no matter what the 
 --graph option shows!
  
 A *Hilbert space* *H* is a realhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_number
  or complex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_number inner product 
 space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_product_space that is also a 
 complete 
 metric space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_metric_space with 
 respect to the distance function induced by the inner product.
 i.e. a 'space' and a 'product' (function between two items) (that measure 
 a 'distance') that can 'completely' measure everywhere in the space. i.e. 
 things add up properly and no wormholes in space.
  
 found Every directed graph defines a Hilbert space ... 
 http://www.austms.org.au/Publ/Jamsa/V82P3/l112.html so it must be true.
  
 So it all sounds true and plausible. It means that many and various 
 mathematical (and hence computer science) theories continue to be true in 
 the general case and there are no nasty special cases as long as we stick 
 with the basic git data model - long live those homeomorphic 
 endofunctors mapping submanifolds of a Hilbert space!
  
 A bit more fun education, let it waft over you.
  
 Philip
  

  - Original Message - 
 *From:* Eric Gorr javascript: 
  *To:* git-...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 *Cc:* Philip Oakley javascript: 
 *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 11:42 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

 I to would like to see a translation...

 On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:25:02 AM UTC-4, Philip Oakley wrote: 

  But waht we need is the 'translation' as to why it's true ;)
  
 I see that homeomorphic = a one-to-one correspondence, continuous in 
 both directions, between the points of two geometric figures or between two 
 topological spaces. So I think that means if my SHA1 equals your SHA1 we 
 have the same commit tree and DAG.
  
 I'm guessing the sub-manifolds is about branches.
  
 Any more suggestions?
  
 Philip

 - Original Message - 
 *From:* Eric Gorr 
 *To:* git-...@googlegroups.com 
 *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 2:40 AM
 *Subject:* [git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

 Randomly came across it again...if anyone is interested...

 https://twitter.com/tabqwerty/**status/45611899953491968https://twitter.com/tabqwerty/status

[git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

2013-06-16 Thread Eric Gorr
Randomly came across it again...if anyone is interested...

https://twitter.com/tabqwerty/status/45611899953491968

git gets easier once you get the basic idea that branches are homeomorphic 
endofunctors mapping submanifolds of a Hilbert space.



On Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:18:17 PM UTC-4, Eric Gorr wrote:

 Hello. Awhile ago, I came across a rather humorous description of git, but 
 (a) I can't remember exactly how it went or (b) where I saw it. It 
 described git a being a tesseract inside of a manifold or some such thing. 
 Does this ring a bell with anyone? (I did find this 
 http://tartley.com/?p=1267, but that isn't it...I believe it was part of 
 some blog post tutorial.)




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[git-users] Re: Humorous description of git

2013-06-16 Thread Eric Gorr


On Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:18:17 PM UTC-4, Eric Gorr wrote:

 Hello. Awhile ago, I came across a rather humorous description of git, but 
 (a) I can't remember exactly how it went or (b) where I saw it. It 
 described git a being a tesseract inside of a manifold or some such thing. 
 Does this ring a bell with anyone? (I did find this 
 http://tartley.com/?p=1267, but that isn't it...I believe it was part of 
 some blog post tutorial.)




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