Re: Is there a non-blocking version of hGetArray?
Simon Marlow writes: I'm surprised if pointer access to memory is slower than unsafeRead. You were right. Now that I have made some tests, the problem turned out to be elsewhere. Pointer access is not to blame. ;-) Peter ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Bools are not unboxed
Hello! I was playing with monadic looping a'la replicateM_ and I created this function: for :: Int - IO () - IO () for 0 _ = return () for n x = x for (n - 1) x Compiled with -O2, it is really fast and makes no unnecessary allocations. Tested with this main main = for 1000 (return ()) it gives the following stats ghc: 1024 bytes, 0 GCs, 0/0 avg/max bytes residency (0 samples), 1M in use, 0,00 INIT (0,00 elapsed), 0,33 MUT (0,33 elapsed), 0,00 GC (0,00 elapsed) :ghc Cool! ( this is still 10 times slower than g++ -O3, but a similar pure function is only 3 times slower, and I am satisfied with such results (at this moment ;) ) Unfortunately, the program I was playing with could call 'for' with negative n, for which it was supposed to make 0 iterations, and this version definitely makes too many iterations. So I made another version: for :: Int - IO () - IO () for n x | n 0 = x for (n - 1) x | otherwise = return () To my surprise, it was much slower and made many allocations: ghc: 240927488 bytes, 920 GCs, 1036/1036 avg/max bytes residency (1 samples), 1M in use, 0,00 INIT (0,00 elapsed), 2,48 MUT (2,50 elapsed), 0,04 GC (0,05 elapsed) :ghc I checked in -ddump-simpl that Ints are getting unboxed in both versions. Then I noticed the cause: GHC.Prim.# returns a boxed, heap allocated Bool, and so do other primitive comparison operators. Would it be difficult to add Bool unboxing to GHC? Maybe it would suffice to use preallocated False and True? Best regards, Tom -- .signature: Too many levels of symbolic links ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: Bools are not unboxed
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 03:07:01PM +0200, Tomasz Zielonka wrote: Then I noticed the cause: GHC.Prim.# returns a boxed, heap allocated Bool, and so do other primitive comparison operators. Would it be difficult to add Bool unboxing to GHC? Maybe it would suffice to use preallocated False and True? I forgot about some questions: Do you think that many applications could benefit from such an improvement? IMO, yes, for example, there are many Int comparisons waiting for this optimisation in io, networking and posix libraries. But I am not sure how big would that benefit be in a non-toy application. Best regards, Tom -- .signature: Too many levels of symbolic links ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: Bools are not unboxed
Hi Tomasz! On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 03:07:01PM +0200, Tomasz Zielonka wrote: Hello! I was playing with monadic looping a'la replicateM_ and I created this function: for :: Int - IO () - IO () for 0 _ = return () for n x = x for (n - 1) x Compiled with -O2, it is really fast and makes no unnecessary allocations. Yes, good code: T.$wfor = \r [ww w w1] case ww of ds { __DEFAULT - case w w1 of wild { GHC.Prim.(#,#) new_s a41 - case -# [ds 1] of sat_s1ZG { __DEFAULT - T.$wfor sat_s1ZG w new_s; }; }; 0 - GHC.Prim.(#,#) [w1 GHC.Base.()]; }; SRT(T.$wfor): [] T.for = \r [w w1 w2] case w of w3 { GHC.Base.I# ww - T.$wfor ww w1 w2; }; SRT(T.for): [] So I made another version: for :: Int - IO () - IO () for n x | n 0 = x for (n - 1) x | otherwise = return () To my surprise, it was much slower and made many allocations: [... Then I noticed the cause: GHC.Prim.# returns a boxed, heap allocated Bool, and so do other primitive comparison operators. That's not really the cause. A function returning a boxed value does not necessarily have to allocate it, it is just a vectored return afaik. The code is: T.$wfor' = \r [ww w] case # [ww 0] of wild { GHC.Base.True - let { k = \u [] case -# [ww 1] of sat_s1Z9 { __DEFAULT - T.$wfor' sat_s1Z9 w; }; } in let { sat_s20d = \r [eta] case w eta of wild1 { GHC.Prim.(#,#) new_s a41 - k new_s; }; } in sat_s20d; GHC.Base.False - lvl4; }; SRT(T.$wfor'): [] T.for' = \r [w w1] case w of w2 { GHC.Base.I# ww - T.$wfor' ww w1; }; SRT(T.for'): [] The culprit is `let { k = \u ... }'. The cause seems to be that eta expansion is done at the wrong place, I do not know why. The code we would want is T.$wfor4 = \r [ww w w1] case # [ww 0] of wild { GHC.Base.True - case w w1 of wild1 { GHC.Prim.(#,#) new_s a41 - case -# [ww 1] of sat_s1Y0 { __DEFAULT - T.$wfor4 sat_s1Y0 w new_s; }; }; GHC.Base.False - GHC.Prim.(#,#) [w1 GHC.Base.()]; }; SRT(T.$wfor4): [] T.for4 = \r [w w1 w2] case w of w3 { GHC.Base.I# ww - T.$wfor4 ww w1 w2; }; SRT(T.for4): [] (Notice that $wfor again take three arguments, the last one being the state.) Actually, this is produced by the following, although I have no idea why. Just the optimizer working unpredictably, I guess. for4 :: Int - IO () - IO () for4 n x = if n `gt` 0 == 0 then return () else x (for4 (n-1) x) gt :: Int - Int - Int gt x y = if x y then 1 else 0 If you test it, it should be fast. BTW, although counting upwards (and not solving the problem generally), the following is ok too: for2 :: Int - IO () - IO () for2 n x = sequence_ [x | i - [1..n]] T.lvl = \r [s] GHC.Prim.(#,#) [s GHC.Base.()]; SRT(T.lvl): [] T.$wfor2 = \r [ww w] case # [1 ww] of wild { GHC.Base.True - T.lvl; GHC.Base.False - let { go10 = \r [x1 eta] case w eta of wild1 { GHC.Prim.(#,#) new_s a41 - case ==# [x1 ww] of wild11 { GHC.Base.True - GHC.Prim.(#,#) [new_s GHC.Base.()]; GHC.Base.False - case +# [x1 1] of sat_s1XA { __DEFAULT - go10 sat_s1XA new_s; }; }; }; } in go10 1; }; SRT(T.$wfor2): [] T.for2 = \r [w w1] case w of w2 { GHC.Base.I# ww - T.$wfor2 ww w1; }; SRT(T.for2): [] Playing with the code generated by ghc is a great way to waste time for me. Wait until you have found the RULES-pragma :-) Have fun, Carsten -- Carsten Schultz (2:38, 33:47), FB Mathematik, FU Berlin http://carsten.codimi.de/ PGP/GPG key on the pgp.net key servers, fingerprint on my home page. pgpbPCeYXZmU3.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: Bools are not unboxed
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 04:03:55PM +0200, Carsten Schultz wrote: Hi Tomasz! Hi Carsten! To my surprise, it was much slower and made many allocations: [... Then I noticed the cause: GHC.Prim.# returns a boxed, heap allocated Bool, and so do other primitive comparison operators. I should have asked one fundamental question first: am I right? ;) That's not really the cause. A function returning a boxed value does not necessarily have to allocate it, it is just a vectored return afaik. I haven't heard about 'vectored return' before. I will try to find more information about it. Maybe you can recommend something for me to read? (Notice that $wfor again take three arguments, the last one being the state.) Hmmm, I noticed that the number of arguments differed, there were even some quiet alarm bells in my head, but I ignored it. for4 :: Int - IO () - IO () for4 n x = if n `gt` 0 == 0 then return () else x (for4 (n-1) x) gt :: Int - Int - Int gt x y = if x y then 1 else 0 If you test it, it should be fast. It is even slightly faster than my fastest version :) BTW, although counting upwards (and not solving the problem generally), the following is ok too: for2 :: Int - IO () - IO () for2 n x = sequence_ [x | i - [1..n]] This one is amazing. It's 3 times faster than the previous one in spite of being written in high level style. I guess it's worth checking idiomatic Haskell style first, because there is a big chance that GHC was optimised for it :) However, it would be nice if all versions were as efficient... Playing with the code generated by ghc is a great way to waste time for me. Well, but you seem to be very good at it. Maybe it won't be such a waste of time in the long term :) Wait until you have found the RULES-pragma :-) I've already found it some time ago. I even tried to use them to optimise vector/matrix expressions (to eliminate intermediate vectors), but I remember that sometimes the rules didn't fire and I didn't understand why. Have fun, Carsten Hope this will teach me to avoid premature conclusions :-/ Thanks, Tom -- .signature: Too many levels of symbolic links ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
hWaitForInput and timeouts
Hi, I have another I/O problem. I need to time out when a Handle blocks forever. I am using hWaitForInput anyway, so that shouldn't be a problem, but the documentation says that using this feature will block all IO threads? Is it much work to fix this? I _could_ forkIO a racer thread myself, of course, but it feels wrong to do that around a function that has an explicit timeout argument. :-) Peter ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users