Re: Compiling 32-bit GHC on a 64-bit Mac
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Ian Lynagh ig...@earth.li wrote: On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:10:39PM +0200, Johan Tibell wrote: I need to reproduce a bug that only appears on 32-bit machines. I don't own such a machine but I was hoping I could compile a 32-bit GHC on my Mac and debug using that. What changes do I need to make (e.g. to build/mk) to build a 32-bit GHC? Install http://www.haskell.org/ghc/dist/7.0.3/ghc-7.0.3-i386-apple-darwin.tar.bz2 and make sure its ghc is first in your path. Then build as normal. Running the OS X installers is a bit intrusive. Is there a way to get a 32-bit version directly from source? Cheers, Johan ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: Compiling 32-bit GHC on a 64-bit Mac
Am 06.06.2011 12:08, schrieb Johan Tibell: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Ian Lynaghig...@earth.li wrote: On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:10:39PM +0200, Johan Tibell wrote: I need to reproduce a bug that only appears on 32-bit machines. I don't own such a machine but I was hoping I could compile a 32-bit GHC on my Mac and debug using that. What changes do I need to make (e.g. to build/mk) to build a 32-bit GHC? Install http://www.haskell.org/ghc/dist/7.0.3/ghc-7.0.3-i386-apple-darwin.tar.bz2 and make sure its ghc is first in your path. Then build as normal. Running the OS X installers is a bit intrusive. Is there a way to get a 32-bit version directly from source? You need a 32-bit bootstrapping compiler as binary. The above binary-dist does not use the OS X installer (as it does not end in .pkg) Cheers Christian Cheers, Johan ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: How to install GhC on a Mac without registering?
On 6 Jun 2011, at 13:49, Lyndon Maydwell wrote: I would be fantastic if XCode wasn't a dependency. ... Not to detract at all from the work of the wonderful GHC and Haskell Platform contributors in any way. For me it would just make it that much easier to convince mac-using friends to give Haskell a try. The ghc team already bundle a copy of gcc in their Windows distribution, precisely because it can be fiddly to get a working copy of gcc for that platform otherwise. I wonder if they would consider the possibility of shipping gcc on Mac too? (There may be good reasons not to do that, but let's have the discussion.) Regards, Malcolm ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to install GhC on a Mac without registering?
Isn't gcc just used for its assembler and object file creation, these days, now that via-C is deprecated? Or are there other parts of it that are needed? On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Malcolm Wallace malcolm.wall...@me.comwrote: On 6 Jun 2011, at 13:49, Lyndon Maydwell wrote: I would be fantastic if XCode wasn't a dependency. ... Not to detract at all from the work of the wonderful GHC and Haskell Platform contributors in any way. For me it would just make it that much easier to convince mac-using friends to give Haskell a try. The ghc team already bundle a copy of gcc in their Windows distribution, precisely because it can be fiddly to get a working copy of gcc for that platform otherwise. I wonder if they would consider the possibility of shipping gcc on Mac too? (There may be good reasons not to do that, but let's have the discussion.) Regards, Malcolm ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list haskell-c...@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to install GhC on a Mac without registering?
On 06/06/11 15:57, Daniel Peebles wrote: Isn't gcc just used for its assembler and object file creation, these days, now that via-C is deprecated? Or are there other parts of it that are needed? The C compiler is needed to support foreign export and foreign import wrapper, and we also generate C fragments for some initialisation code now (in 7.2.1) as part of some changes I made to the way module initialisation is done. The C compiler is also used to support -rtsopts, which requires compiling a small C file and linking it into the binary. It's sometimes handy to be able to compile C files with GHC, if you're not using Cabal. Cheers, Simon On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Malcolm Wallace malcolm.wall...@me.com mailto:malcolm.wall...@me.com wrote: On 6 Jun 2011, at 13:49, Lyndon Maydwell wrote: I would be fantastic if XCode wasn't a dependency. ... Not to detract at all from the work of the wonderful GHC and Haskell Platform contributors in any way. For me it would just make it that much easier to convince mac-using friends to give Haskell a try. The ghc team already bundle a copy of gcc in their Windows distribution, precisely because it can be fiddly to get a working copy of gcc for that platform otherwise. I wonder if they would consider the possibility of shipping gcc on Mac too? (There may be good reasons not to do that, but let's have the discussion.) Regards, Malcolm ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list haskell-c...@haskell.org mailto:haskell-c...@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: How to install GhC on a Mac without registering?
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 16:47, Malcolm Wallace wrote: The ghc team already bundle a copy of gcc in their Windows distribution, precisely because it can be fiddly to get a working copy of gcc for that platform otherwise. I wonder if they would consider the possibility of shipping gcc on Mac too? (There may be good reasons not to do that, but let's have the discussion.) I would be in favor of this -- assuming it didn't create new problems -- especially if it meant the latest GHC installer could be used on older versions of Mac OS X. The Windows installer still works for Windows 2000, but the Mac installer requires the Snow Leopard. Regards, Sean ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: How to install GhC on a Mac without registering?
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 03:47:57PM +0100, Malcolm Wallace wrote: On 6 Jun 2011, at 13:49, Lyndon Maydwell wrote: I would be fantastic if XCode wasn't a dependency. ... Not to detract at all from the work of the wonderful GHC and Haskell Platform contributors in any way. For me it would just make it that much easier to convince mac-using friends to give Haskell a try. The ghc team already bundle a copy of gcc in their Windows distribution, precisely because it can be fiddly to get a working copy of gcc for that platform otherwise. I wonder if they would consider the possibility of shipping gcc on Mac too? (There may be good reasons not to do that, but let's have the discussion.) I'm pretty sure we aren't allowed to redistribute XCode. As well as gcc and friends, I think XCode also includes various headers and/or libraries that we need. If there is an alternative - especially one that allows us to support multiple versions of OS X more easily - then using it may make sense. Thanks Ian ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: getCPUTime implementation incorrect?
See http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/4247 and http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/4970 We ought to fix this in 7.0.4, since getCPUTime is pretty broken on OSX 64-bit right now, but the fix involves an API change (to Foreign.C.Types). Ian - could we apply a fix that doesn't change APIs? At least getCPUTime could be, since its use of CTime is internal. Adding new types to Foreign.C shouldn't break anyone, and if you change getCPUTime to internally use the new type no one outside will be the wiser. Except they can remove their OS X workarounds :) ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
