Re: carriage returns on Windows from quasi-quotes

2013-10-05 Thread Christopher Done
They're on Windows?

On 5 October 2013 01:36, Greg Weber g...@gregweber.info wrote:
 A Windows user rerported using Data.Text.IO.writeFile to write out
 quasi-quoted text.

 writeFile automatically translates '\r' to \r\n, so the user ended up
 writing out \r\r\n to a file.

 Haskell seems to be adopting the policy or removing '\r' from Haskell land.
 Is there any reason why quasi-quotes should not automatically strip carriage
 returns?

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Re: carriage returns on Windows from quasi-quotes

2013-10-05 Thread Greg Weber
Yes, this is only an issue on Windows.


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Christopher Done chrisd...@gmail.comwrote:

 They're on Windows?

 On 5 October 2013 01:36, Greg Weber g...@gregweber.info wrote:
  A Windows user rerported using Data.Text.IO.writeFile to write out
  quasi-quoted text.
 
  writeFile automatically translates '\r' to \r\n, so the user ended up
  writing out \r\r\n to a file.
 
  Haskell seems to be adopting the policy or removing '\r' from Haskell
 land.
  Is there any reason why quasi-quotes should not automatically strip
 carriage
  returns?
 
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Re: Desugaring do-notation to Applicative

2013-10-05 Thread Greg Weber
I think there are 2 use cases:
* explicit ado is best, it communicates the intent of the writer and can
give better error messages
* we want users to write code in a do style and the implementer to make it
applicative if possible

So we probably need to accommodate 2 use cases with 2 extensions, one that
enables `ado` and have another extension that will automatically work with
`do`.
Another advantage of this approach is that `ado` should be simpler to get
started.


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Bardur Arantsson s...@scientician.netwrote:

 On 2013-10-02 20:13, Reid Barton wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Edward Kmett ekm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  That is admittedly a pretty convincing example that we may want to
 provide
  either a LANGUAGE pragma or a different syntax to opt in.
 
 
  I suppose the Applicative desugaring can reliably be disabled by adding a
  syntactic dependency on previous variables, like
 
  [ (x, y) | x - [1..3], y - const [1..1000] x ]
 
  so as far as I'm concerned it's sufficient if the Applicative desugaring
 is
  opt-in on a per-module basis, without a separate syntax for Applicative
 vs
  Monad do-notation/comprehensions.

 That seems like an easily-overlooked and IMO too-subtle way to saying
 hey, GHC, don't do the applicative desugaring in this particular place.

  Those who opt in can be expected to
  understand and deal with this sharing issue if it affects them. (They
  pretty much have to understand it already, if they are compiling with
  optimizations.)
 

 I don't think it's a about understanding -- not all READERS of the code
 could necessarily be expected to have the same expertise (or level of
 carefulness) as the writer of the code. This could lead to subtle bugs
 arising during maintenance. Therefore it would seem a good idea to me to
 be explicit about the distiction with ado vs. do (or similar) -- not
 sure about how the distincation should be made in the comprehensions,
 but I'm sure *something* explicit can be worked out. I mean, is a single
 extra letter really a burden?

 Regards,

 Bardur

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