Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to install GhC on a Mac without registering?

2011-06-06 Thread Daniel Peebles
Isn't gcc just used for its assembler and object file creation, these days,
now that via-C is deprecated? Or are there other parts of it that are
needed?

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Malcolm Wallace malcolm.wall...@me.comwrote:


 On 6 Jun 2011, at 13:49, Lyndon Maydwell wrote:

  I would be fantastic if XCode wasn't a dependency.  ...
 
  Not to detract at all from the work of the wonderful GHC and Haskell
  Platform contributors in any way. For me it would just make it that
  much easier to convince mac-using friends to give Haskell a try.

 The ghc team already bundle a copy of gcc in their Windows distribution,
 precisely because it can be fiddly to get a working copy of gcc for that
 platform otherwise.  I wonder if they would consider the possibility of
 shipping gcc on Mac too?  (There may be good reasons not to do that, but
 let's have the discussion.)

 Regards,
 Malcolm

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to install GhC on a Mac without registering?

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Marlow

On 06/06/11 15:57, Daniel Peebles wrote:

Isn't gcc just used for its assembler and object file creation, these
days, now that via-C is deprecated? Or are there other parts of it that
are needed?


The C compiler is needed to support foreign export and foreign import 
wrapper, and we also generate C fragments for some initialisation code 
now (in 7.2.1) as part of some changes I made to the way module 
initialisation is done.  The C compiler is also used to support 
-rtsopts, which requires compiling a small C file and linking it into 
the binary.


It's sometimes handy to be able to compile C files with GHC, if you're 
not using Cabal.


Cheers,
Simon



On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Malcolm Wallace malcolm.wall...@me.com
mailto:malcolm.wall...@me.com wrote:


On 6 Jun 2011, at 13:49, Lyndon Maydwell wrote:

  I would be fantastic if XCode wasn't a dependency.  ...
 
  Not to detract at all from the work of the wonderful GHC and Haskell
  Platform contributors in any way. For me it would just make it that
  much easier to convince mac-using friends to give Haskell a try.

The ghc team already bundle a copy of gcc in their Windows
distribution, precisely because it can be fiddly to get a working
copy of gcc for that platform otherwise.  I wonder if they would
consider the possibility of shipping gcc on Mac too?  (There may be
good reasons not to do that, but let's have the discussion.)

Regards,
Malcolm

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