Re: Compiling to ANSI C
On 07/11/2009 18:48, Daniel Peebles wrote: You can use -fvia-C and -keep-hc-files but the generated C code is pretty platform-dependent (at least in terms of word sizes and so on... it may be possible to port across platforms with the same word sizes?), and probably won't help you cross-compile. It also doesn't look much like any c code any human would have written, and I think there are plans to deprecate the via-C compilation pathway eventually. If you are looking to add cross-compilation to GHC, the first thing I'd look at is detaching the choice of native code generator from the preprocessor and hooking it up to a front-end command-line option instead :) We already compile in all the NCG backends, so that should be quite straightforward. What's much harder is arranging the rest of your cross-compilation environment - assembler, linker etc., and making sure you're using the right configuration parameters from the target machine for the build. It's generally easier to get an unregisterised port working first, and then use that to bootstrap an NCG/registerised version. Someone on IRC (his username is dumael, not sure what his real name is) has already been working on an ARM native code generator for GHC recently. Interesting, I didn't know that. There's also the iPhone GHC port, which is unregisterised, I believe. The recent LLVM back-end development should also make it pretty simple to generate code for other platforms (especially if we have a nice way to pass front-end options to the code generators) Definitely, I think that will be a nice side-effect of the LLVM backend. Cheers, Simon ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: Compiling to ANSI C
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 10:19:26AM +0300, Bulat Ziganshin wrote: seems that wizards are on holiday ATM, so i will help a little - ghc ports are divided into registerized (working with cpu registers) and unregisterized (just a C code generated). I wouldn't touch the *registerized* variant using intermediate C files, because that means you probably would also have to modify the evil mangler, which is -- evil. Ciao, Kili ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Compiling to ANSI C
I am (in fact we are) working to make Haskell code to run on an ARM Linux machine called GP2X Wiz, the open-source based handheld game console. I wish to finally make a Haskell cross-compiler for ARM Linux, and for now I am trying to make main = putStrLn Hello, World! to run on the machine. At first I did $ ghc hello.hs -o hello -fvia-C -keep-hc-files and tried to use the generated hc file, but figured that the code is (or at least some code in the included headers is) x86-dependent. I heard that the GHC can compile to ANSI C, and I want to use it as an intermediate code to ARM Linux before we can actually port the GHC to it. Is there any specific option I have to give in order to generate an ANSI C code from a Haskell source code? ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: Compiling to ANSI C
If I were you, I'd look at using the recent LLVM backend work as a means to translate Haskell - ARM. Thomas On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:08 AM, han e...@xtendo.org wrote: I am (in fact we are) working to make Haskell code to run on an ARM Linux machine called GP2X Wiz, the open-source based handheld game console. I wish to finally make a Haskell cross-compiler for ARM Linux, and for now I am trying to make main = putStrLn Hello, World! to run on the machine. At first I did $ ghc hello.hs -o hello -fvia-C -keep-hc-files and tried to use the generated hc file, but figured that the code is (or at least some code in the included headers is) x86-dependent. I heard that the GHC can compile to ANSI C, and I want to use it as an intermediate code to ARM Linux before we can actually port the GHC to it. Is there any specific option I have to give in order to generate an ANSI C code from a Haskell source code? ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: Compiling to ANSI C
You can use -fvia-C and -keep-hc-files but the generated C code is pretty platform-dependent (at least in terms of word sizes and so on... it may be possible to port across platforms with the same word sizes?), and probably won't help you cross-compile. It also doesn't look much like any c code any human would have written, and I think there are plans to deprecate the via-C compilation pathway eventually. If you are looking to add cross-compilation to GHC, the first thing I'd look at is detaching the choice of native code generator from the preprocessor and hooking it up to a front-end command-line option instead :) Someone on IRC (his username is dumael, not sure what his real name is) has already been working on an ARM native code generator for GHC recently. The recent LLVM back-end development should also make it pretty simple to generate code for other platforms (especially if we have a nice way to pass front-end options to the code generators) Dan On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 12:08 PM, han e...@xtendo.org wrote: I am (in fact we are) working to make Haskell code to run on an ARM Linux machine called GP2X Wiz, the open-source based handheld game console. I wish to finally make a Haskell cross-compiler for ARM Linux, and for now I am trying to make main = putStrLn Hello, World! to run on the machine. At first I did $ ghc hello.hs -o hello -fvia-C -keep-hc-files and tried to use the generated hc file, but figured that the code is (or at least some code in the included headers is) x86-dependent. I heard that the GHC can compile to ANSI C, and I want to use it as an intermediate code to ARM Linux before we can actually port the GHC to it. Is there any specific option I have to give in order to generate an ANSI C code from a Haskell source code? ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: Compiling to ANSI C
Do we have a native LLVM bitcode writer or is it still FFI? --Original Message-- From: Thomas DuBuisson Sender: glasgow-haskell-users-boun...@haskell.org To: han Cc: glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org Subject: Re: Compiling to ANSI C Sent: Nov 7, 2009 09:56 If I were you, I'd look at using the recent LLVM backend work as a means to translate Haskell - ARM. Thomas On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:08 AM, han e...@xtendo.org wrote: I am (in fact we are) working to make Haskell code to run on an ARM Linux machine called GP2X Wiz, the open-source based handheld game console. I wish to finally make a Haskell cross-compiler for ARM Linux, and for now I am trying to make main = putStrLn Hello, World! to run on the machine. At first I did $ ghc hello.hs -o hello -fvia-C -keep-hc-files and tried to use the generated hc file, but figured that the code is (or at least some code in the included headers is) x86-dependent. I heard that the GHC can compile to ANSI C, and I want to use it as an intermediate code to ARM Linux before we can actually port the GHC to it. Is there any specific option I have to give in order to generate an ANSI C code from a Haskell source code? ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: Compiling to ANSI C
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:16 AM, scooter@gmail.com wrote: Do we have a native LLVM bitcode writer or is it still FFI? I was referring to a paper [1] I just ran into on reddit. I only skimmed it, but it seems they (or just he?) integrated LLVM as a new backend for GHC. Thomas [1] http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~pls/thesis/davidt-thesis.pdf ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: Compiling to ANSI C
Believe it when it shows up in GHC pristine. --Original Message-- From: Thomas DuBuisson To: scooter@gmail.com Cc: han Cc: glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org Subject: Re: Compiling to ANSI C Sent: Nov 7, 2009 11:28 On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:16 AM, scooter@gmail.com wrote: Do we have a native LLVM bitcode writer or is it still FFI? I was referring to a paper [1] I just ran into on reddit. I only skimmed it, but it seems they (or just he?) integrated LLVM as a new backend for GHC. Thomas [1] http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~pls/thesis/davidt-thesis.pdf Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: Compiling to ANSI C
Jhc compiles to ANSI C and has been tested with other ARM targets and works fine. It may be suitable for your needs. John -- John Meacham - ⑆repetae.net⑆john⑈ - http://notanumber.net/ ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: Compiling to ANSI C
Hello han, Saturday, November 7, 2009, 8:08:51 PM, you wrote: I am (in fact we are) working to make Haskell code to run on an ARM Linux machine called GP2X Wiz, the open-source based handheld game console. seems that wizards are on holiday ATM, so i will help a little - ghc ports are divided into registerized (working with cpu registers) and unregisterized (just a C code generated). for the fist time, you need to make unregisterized port of course. nevertheless, ghc doesn't generate portable C afaik, but you will have much less work to do - i.e. tune wordsizes and so on. sorry, i don't know more, google for unregisterized ghc -- Best regards, Bulatmailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
