Re: Mac Port

2003-06-02 Thread Gregory Wright
On Sunday, June 1, 2003, at 05:15 AM, Wolfgang Thaller wrote:

Seth Kurtzberg wrote:

Is there, or is anyone working on, ports for Mac OSX and/or Mac OS9?
I'm currently responsible for the Mac OS X version of GHC. I'll upload 
a GHC 6.0 binary for Mac OS X binary as soon as possible, but I'm 
short on time and processor cycles, so it might take a few more days.
I could definitely use more people who regularily build GHC on MacOS X 
and do some testing, and alert me of any breakage _before_ I make a 
buggy release... I don't have the computing capacity to do nightly 
builds.

Dear Wolfgang,

I maintain the Hugs port for the darwinports system (a cousin of fink 
and
perhaps the successor to the *bsd ports system). I'd like to add a port
for ghc-6.0. I tried to build it but ran into some problems.

1. configure doesn't pass the CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS environment variables
to the haskell build. This means you can't have libreadline and libdl in
non-standard locations.
This is a problem for darwinports and fink because of their automatic 
dependency
management.

2. Even if I put symlinks to the above libraries in the standard 
locations,
I still get a build failure. This is building 6.0 using 5.04.3. (5.04.3 
was
built from source successfully using your 5.04.2 binary.) The build 
ends with

../../ghc/compiler/stage1/ghc-inplace -o stage2/ghc-6.0 -H16m -O  
-istage2/utils  -istage2/basicTypes  -istage2/types  -istage2/hsSyn  
-istage2/prelude  -istage2/rename  -istage2/typecheck  -istage2/deSugar 
 -istage2/coreSyn  -istage2/specialise  -istage2/simplCore  
-istage2/stranal  -istage2/stgSyn  -istage2/simplStg  -istage2/codeGen  
-istage2/absCSyn  -istage2/main  -istage2/profiling  -istage2/parser  
-istage2/cprAnalysis  -istage2/compMan  -istage2/ndpFlatten  
-istage2/nativeGen  -istage2/ghci -DGHCI -package haskell-src -package 
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stage2/basicTypes/FieldLabel.o  stage2/basicTypes/Id.o  
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stage2/basicTypes/MkId.o  stage2/basicTypes/Module.o  
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Re: Mac Port

2003-06-02 Thread Wolfgang Thaller
Dear Wolfgang,

I maintain the Hugs port for the darwinports system (a cousin of fink 
and
perhaps the successor to the *bsd ports system). I'd like to add a port
for ghc-6.0. I tried to build it but ran into some problems.

1. configure doesn't pass the CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS environment 
variables
to the haskell build. This means you can't have libreadline and libdl 
in
non-standard locations.
Grmpf... I know I don't like configure scripts. I prefer IDEs. Do you 
know how to fix it/have time to do it?
If not, would somebody else _PLEASE_ do that for us? (It wouldn't enjoy 
digging into the build system code to fix that; in fact, I would 
positively hate it).

This is a problem for darwinports and fink because of their automatic 
dependency
management.

2. Even if I put symlinks to the above libraries in the standard 
locations,
I still get a build failure. This is building 6.0 using 5.04.3. 
(5.04.3 was
built from source successfully using your 5.04.2 binary.) The build 
ends with
[...]
Ahem, yes. I didn't have a chance to test GHC 6 in the last five days 
before the release, and, of course, the last commit broke the Mac OS X 
build. I have meanwhile committed a fix to CVS, but that was a day 
after the official relase for 6.0. If you check out the newest stable 
branch from CVS (or ask me to send you diffs tomorrow), it should work.
(That last commit made GHC quote all arguments it passes on to GHC; for 
Mac OS X, it passed -framework HaskellSupport instead of -framework 
HaskellSupport. GCC doesn't report an error but it just ignores the 
former. Strange.)

The HaskellSupport framework (which is not used if it's not detected 
at configure time; there should really be a configure switch for that) 
is just an aggregation of libgmp and libdl packaged as a framework. I 
figured that would be easier for end users of Haskell programs, as 
libgmp is required for all Haskell programs, and libdl is used by the 
Posix library (and how do you install a dylib using the Finder?). For 
something like darwinports, it might be better to just rely on the gmp 
and dl libraries installed with darwinports, but that makes programs 
compiled using ghc dependent on darwinports, too.

And you just reminded me that I still haven't uploaded the 10 line 
shell script for creating the HaskellSupport.framework anywhere, 
because I could never figure out the appropriate place in CVS:

#!/bin/sh
cd dlcompat-20020413
cp dlfcn.o ../
make
cd ../gmp-4.0.1
./configure
make
ld -r -d ./libs/libgmp.a -o ../libgmp.o
cd ..
ld -dylib -o HaskellSupport.framework/Versions/A/HaskellSupport 
libgmp.o dlfcn.o /usr/lib/dylib1.o -lSystem

OK, that's all for now...

Cheers,

	Wolfgang

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Re: Mac Port

2003-06-02 Thread Gregory Wright
On Sunday, June 1, 2003, at 07:36 PM, Wolfgang Thaller wrote:

Dear Wolfgang,

I maintain the Hugs port for the darwinports system (a cousin of fink 
and
perhaps the successor to the *bsd ports system). I'd like to add a 
port
for ghc-6.0. I tried to build it but ran into some problems.

1. configure doesn't pass the CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS environment 
variables
to the haskell build. This means you can't have libreadline and libdl 
in
non-standard locations.
Grmpf... I know I don't like configure scripts. I prefer IDEs. Do you 
know how to fix it/have time to do it?
If not, would somebody else _PLEASE_ do that for us? (It wouldn't 
enjoy digging into the build system code to fix that; in fact, I would 
positively hate it).

I will take a look at the configuration issue for ghc-6.0 + Mac OS X. I 
was
able to hand edit the makefiles to pass the correct include and library 
paths;
it's not too big a job to pass the appropriate configuration variables.


This is a problem for darwinports and fink because of their automatic 
dependency
management.

2. Even if I put symlinks to the above libraries in the standard 
locations,
I still get a build failure. This is building 6.0 using 5.04.3. 
(5.04.3 was
built from source successfully using your 5.04.2 binary.) The build 
ends with
[...]
Ahem, yes. I didn't have a chance to test GHC 6 in the last five days 
before the release, and, of course, the last commit broke the Mac OS X 
build. I have meanwhile committed a fix to CVS, but that was a day 
after the official relase for 6.0. If you check out the newest stable 
branch from CVS (or ask me to send you diffs tomorrow), it should  work.
(That last commit made GHC quote all arguments it passes on to GHC; 
for Mac OS X, it passed -framework HaskellSupport instead of 
-framework HaskellSupport. GCC doesn't report an error but it just 
ignores the former. Strange.)

I'll check it out from the CVS in the morning.


The HaskellSupport framework (which is not used if it's not detected 
at configure time; there should really be a configure switch for that) 
is just an aggregation of libgmp and libdl packaged as a framework. I 
figured that would be easier for end users of Haskell programs, as 
libgmp is required for all Haskell programs, and libdl is used by the 
Posix library (and how do you install a dylib using the Finder?). For 
something like darwinports, it might be better to just rely on the gmp 
and dl libraries installed with darwinports, but that makes programs 
compiled using ghc dependent on darwinports, too.

For darwinports, I'll probably just install gmp and dl as dependencies. 
There is
also provision to install frameworks in $prefix/Frameworks. I'll have 
to think about
which is more appropriate.

And you just reminded me that I still haven't uploaded the 10 line 
shell script for creating the HaskellSupport.framework anywhere, 
because I could never figure out the appropriate place in CVS:

#!/bin/sh
cd dlcompat-20020413
cp dlfcn.o ../
make
cd ../gmp-4.0.1
./configure
make
ld -r -d ./libs/libgmp.a -o ../libgmp.o
cd ..
ld -dylib -o HaskellSupport.framework/Versions/A/HaskellSupport 
libgmp.o dlfcn.o /usr/lib/dylib1.o -lSystem

OK, that's all for now...

Cheers,

	Wolfgang


Thanks for the help!

Best Wishes,
Greg
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Mac Port

2003-06-01 Thread Seth Kurtzberg
Is there, or is anyone working on, ports for Mac OSX and/or Mac OS9?

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Re: Mac Port

2003-06-01 Thread Wolfgang Thaller
Seth Kurtzberg wrote:

Is there, or is anyone working on, ports for Mac OSX and/or Mac OS9?
I'm currently responsible for the Mac OS X version of GHC. I'll upload 
a GHC 6.0 binary for Mac OS X binary as soon as possible, but I'm short 
on time and processor cycles, so it might take a few more days.
I could definitely use more people who regularily build GHC on MacOS X 
and do some testing, and alert me of any breakage _before_ I make a 
buggy release... I don't have the computing capacity to do nightly 
builds.

Mac OS 9 is a different story. GHC doesn't work on Mac OS 9, and it 
will probably stay that way:
*) There is no GCC that runs on Mac OS 9.
*) There is no GCC that cross-compiles to Mac OS 9.
... and the ABI is different from other PowerPC platforms, including 
Mac OS X.
*) Mac OS 9 doesn't support the POSIX API.
GHC's run time system and libraries require either Posix or Win32. A 
lot would have to be rewritten for Mac OS 9.
*) There's no unix-style shell on Mac OS 9
That means we have to cross-compile or use a completely different build 
system.
*) Mac OS 9 is obsolete
There are people using it now, and there will still be people who use 
it in the future, but by the time any port is finished, they will be 
very hard to find.

Cheers,

Wolfgang

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