Re: cascading type errors in ghc
On 6 Aug 2013, at 20:03, Evan Laforge wrote: > I don't know how others like to work, but I like when a compiler bails > early, because I fix errors one at a time, and I search for the > easiest looking ones before worrying about the complicated looking > ones. With C compilers, it is often the case that only the first error is real, and the subsequent errors are consequences of not being able to recover from the first one. However, one of the really nice things about GHC is that the list of type errors is complete and coherent. I often start at the bottom of the list and work my way up fixing them in a single pass (upwards, in order to give myself the best chance that the line numbers are still correct after I have fixed the later errors). There are not many compilers you can do that with, and I like it when I can. Regards, Malcolm ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
Re: cascading type errors in ghc
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: > Giving good type error messages is tricky! Indeed, and I'm fully aware this is a Hard Problem. > You get different behaviour for literals because 0 has type (forall a. Num a > => a), whereas you declared x1 to have type Int. GHC could have additionally > said "Can't find an instance for Num Bool, but it suppresses such errors if > there are more serious ones at hand. Hence the difference you observed. > > Previous GHCs would often bale out altogether if they tried to unify Int with > Bool, and recover at some outer point. That's good for not getting lots of > errors, but it might suppress genuinely separate errors. Nowadays we gather > all the unsolved constraints without an exception-style bale-out, which > probably accounts for you seeing more errors. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, thanks for the explanation. I don't know how others like to work, but I like when a compiler bails early, because I fix errors one at a time, and I search for the easiest looking ones before worrying about the complicated looking ones. > The good news is that error generation is all in one module TcErrors.lhs, so > it's easy to adjust these things. For example, given a nearby bunch of > errors, you could suppress all but one. I don't know whether that would on > balance make things better or not. But it's certainly easy to experiment (if > you build yourself a GHC). Maybe we could do better with some heuristics, e.g. categorize errors into "simple" and "advanced", and have simple errors suppress advanced ones. This already happens to an extent: syntax error will suppress unbound name errors, which will suppress type errors, which will suppress typeclass instance errors. These rough categorizations sort of come for free because of the layers in ghc itself, but nonetheless they have a nice effect where you fix problems in layers from simple to complicated. I like it because it matches my simple->complicated preference. Of course that just moves the problem over to telling simple from advanced, so you'd probably have to look at an error from several different angles to try to discover a simpler interpretation. I suppose I shouldn't wade further in here unless I'm prepared to quit my day job and go be an intern at GHC HQ to implement a research project :) ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
RE: cascading type errors in ghc
Giving good type error messages is tricky! You get different behaviour for literals because 0 has type (forall a. Num a => a), whereas you declared x1 to have type Int. GHC could have additionally said "Can't find an instance for Num Bool, but it suppresses such errors if there are more serious ones at hand. Hence the difference you observed. Previous GHCs would often bale out altogether if they tried to unify Int with Bool, and recover at some outer point. That's good for not getting lots of errors, but it might suppress genuinely separate errors. Nowadays we gather all the unsolved constraints without an exception-style bale-out, which probably accounts for you seeing more errors. The good news is that error generation is all in one module TcErrors.lhs, so it's easy to adjust these things. For example, given a nearby bunch of errors, you could suppress all but one. I don't know whether that would on balance make things better or not. But it's certainly easy to experiment (if you build yourself a GHC). Simon | -Original Message- | From: Glasgow-haskell-users [mailto:glasgow-haskell-users-boun...@haskell.org] | On Behalf Of Evan Laforge | Sent: 27 July 2013 20:36 | To: GHC users | Subject: cascading type errors in ghc | | I frequently see one logical mistake turn into many type errors in | ghc. Of course in general "one logical mistake" to a human and a type | checker can be completely different things, so that's not surprising. | The thing is, I feel like I started seeing more with the upgrade to | ghc 7.6 (or was it 7.4?) a while back, which I guess coincides with a | big typechecker overhaul. So I tracked down a specific example, | though I haven't checked if this gives different results in older | ghcs: | | complicated :: Bool -> Int -> (Double -> Double) | -> Int -> Char -> Int -> Char -> () | complicated _ _ _ _ _ _ _ = () | | t0 = complicated 0 id x1 y1 x1 y1 | where | x1 :: Int | x1 = 0 | y1 :: Char | y1 = 'a' | | In this case, the call to complicated is missing the initial Bool. In | ghci the above gives 5 separate type errors, for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, | 5th, and 6th arguments. The curious thing is, if I replace x1 and y1 | with their values: | | t0 = complicated 0 id 0 'a' 0 'a' | | I'm now down to only 3 type errors, for 2nd, 4th, and 6th args. | | So I'm just curious: what's the difference between the where-bound | stuff and literals? Also, why don't I get an error that 0 isn't a | Bool? Or I suppose, that there's no instance Integral Bool? | | ___ | Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list | Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org | http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list Glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
