Re: ghc-7.6.2 breaks haddock interface...

2012-12-12 Thread Simon Hengel
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:30:10PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Hi Simon,
> 
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.12.2012, 12:15 +0100 schrieb Simon Hengel:
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:20:35AM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> > > there really a change to the on-disk format of the .haddock files?
> > 
> > Yes, the on-disk format changed, hence the interface version was bumped
> > from 21 to 22.  But Haddock can still read files with interface version
> > 21 (see [1]).
> 
> great! I was considering asking for backwards compatibility, but then
> tought it might be a bit too much.
> 
> For now I’ll hardcode the information that haddock support interface
> version 21 in our package metadata, but this is error prone. Would you
> mind adding an option akin to
> $ haddock --interface-version
> that would print all versions (e.g. space separated)?
> 
> $ haddock --compatible-interface-versions
> 21 22

Should be easy.  Can you open a ticket?  (of course, patches are always
welcome ;)

Cheers,
Simon

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Re: ghc-7.6.2 breaks haddock interface...

2012-12-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Simon,

Am Mittwoch, den 12.12.2012, 12:15 +0100 schrieb Simon Hengel:
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:20:35AM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> > there really a change to the on-disk format of the .haddock files?
> 
> Yes, the on-disk format changed, hence the interface version was bumped
> from 21 to 22.  But Haddock can still read files with interface version
> 21 (see [1]).

great! I was considering asking for backwards compatibility, but then
tought it might be a bit too much.

For now I’ll hardcode the information that haddock support interface
version 21 in our package metadata, but this is error prone. Would you
mind adding an option akin to
$ haddock --interface-version
that would print all versions (e.g. space separated)?

$ haddock --compatible-interface-versions
21 22

Thanks,
Joachim


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Re: ghc-7.6.2 breaks haddock interface...

2012-12-12 Thread Simon Hengel
Hi Joachim,

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:20:35AM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> there really a change to the on-disk format of the .haddock files?

Yes, the on-disk format changed, hence the interface version was bumped
from 21 to 22.  But Haddock can still read files with interface version
21 (see [1]).

Cheers,
Simon

[1] https://github.com/ghc/haddock/blob/ghc-7.6/src/Haddock/InterfaceFile.hs#L81

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Re: ghc-7.6.2 breaks haddock interface...

2012-12-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Dear Ian,

Am Mittwoch, den 12.12.2012, 00:52 + schrieb Ian Lynagh:
> Won't you have to rebuild everything anyway, due to the GHC version
> number in the .hi files changing?

good point; let me add a bit of information about the Debian
infrastructure: There are two ways of rebuilding stuff. Regular uploads
and binNMUs.

Regular uploads require manual work: Adding a changelog entry to the
source file, building it locally (which is required and means that the
developer has to make sure he builds everything in the right order, and
that he has to install previously built packages), signing the package
and then uploading the new source package together with the built
package. Tedious work.

binNMUs can be scheduled programatically and cause the Debian
autobuilder infrastructure to built the package again on the selected
architectures (possibily all). The infrastructure is smart enough to
figure out the build order itself and no further interaction is
required. Nice.

Unfortunately, the latter can only rebuild arch-dependent packages,
which in the context of Debian packages means -dev and -prof.
Architecture independent packages (here: -doc) cannot be built this way
and thus can only be rebuilt by full sourceful uploads.

The .hi files reside in the arch-dependent packages, while the .haddock
files don’t.


I know that you might think now: Well, then fix your infrastructure. A
valid point. But I am not in the position to do so, hence my hope for
only as many haddock interface number bumps as required. (The Debian
side thinks things about Haskell like: Well, get your ABIs stable so
that we can bugfix individual packages without breaking other
packages...)

Greetings,
Joachim

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Re: ghc-7.6.2 breaks haddock interface...

2012-12-11 Thread Ian Lynagh

Hi Joachim,

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:20:35AM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> 
> I built GHC 7.6.2-rc1 for Debian.

Thanks for testing!

> Provides: haddock, [-haddock-interface-21-] {+haddock-interface-22+}
> 
> i.e. upstream has bumped the haddock interface number. I really was not
> expecting this from a minor release.
> 
> @GHC devs: Is that intentional?

CCing the haddock dev list.

> I.e., is there really a change to the
> on-disk format of the .haddock files? Can we expect this to be stable
> until 7.6.2 final?
> 
> In general, please only bump the interface number if really required,
> makes live much easier for us (and probably also for some of your other
> users).
> 
> @Debian: If the answer is yes, what should we do? I think I have
> automated rebuilding everything (at least everything in Darcs) enough to
> make that not as painful as it used to be, but it would still take some
> time. On the other hand, it would break Haskell in experimental for some
> time (maybe a week, optimistically). But then, it is already partly
> broken.

Won't you have to rebuild everything anyway, due to the GHC version
number in the .hi files changing?


Thanks
Ian


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ghc-7.6.2 breaks haddock interface...

2012-12-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

I built GHC 7.6.2-rc1 for Debian. Unfortunately, we have this:

Control files of package ghc-haddock: lines which differ (wdiff format)
---
Depends: ghc (= [-7.6.1-3),-] {+7.6.1.20121207-1),+} libc6 (>= 2.11), libffi5 
(>= 3.0.4), libgmp10
Installed-Size: [-32917-] {+33044+}
Provides: haddock, [-haddock-interface-21-] {+haddock-interface-22+}
Version: [-7.6.1-3-] {+7.6.1.20121207-1+}

i.e. upstream has bumped the haddock interface number. I really was not
expecting this from a minor release.

@GHC devs: Is that intentional? I.e., is there really a change to the
on-disk format of the .haddock files? Can we expect this to be stable
until 7.6.2 final?

In general, please only bump the interface number if really required,
makes live much easier for us (and probably also for some of your other
users).

@Debian: If the answer is yes, what should we do? I think I have
automated rebuilding everything (at least everything in Darcs) enough to
make that not as painful as it used to be, but it would still take some
time. On the other hand, it would break Haskell in experimental for some
time (maybe a week, optimistically). But then, it is already partly
broken.

Thanks,
Joachim

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