Re: Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs 4 bug?

2009-01-08 Thread patrick fuchs

Hi Berk,
I tried this fix, but mdrun_mpi is still hanging. I'll try to use the 
debugger by the end of the week and let you know.

Cheers,

Patrick

Berk Hess a écrit :

Hi,

My guess is that this is not the problem.
But it is very easy to try, so please do.
The diff for src/gmxlib/pbc.c is:
392c392,393
 try[d] == 0;
---
  try[d] = 0;
  pos[d] = 0;

Berk

  Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:37:20 +0100
  From: patrick.fu...@univ-paris-diderot.fr
  To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
  Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs 4 bug?
 
  Hi,
 
   I also fixed a problem with unitialized variables for pbc calculations
   in trilinic boxes.
   But up till now I have not observed any effect of this bug.
   Is your box triclinic?
  Yes it is. So shall I test your corrected version ?
 
  Patrick
 



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Re: [gmx-users] minimization problems

2009-01-08 Thread David van der Spoel

Hongyan Xiao wrote:

Hi, gmx-users,
 
I built a system,decane(42molecule)/water(903)/decane(42), including the 
two decane/water interfaces. However, when I minimized this system, I 
found the system turn into  water/decane(84)/water. That is to say in 
the initial system two parts of decane turn into a part, while water 
turns into two parts. I am surprised by the minimized result. Can you 
tell me the possible reasons? Thank you very much!


Periodic boundary conditions?
 
H. Y. Xiao 
 





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Re: [gmx-users] eigenvalues

2009-01-08 Thread Xavier Periole

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:31:01 +0530 (IST)
 sanja...@iitb.ac.in wrote:

dear gromacs users,

i did PCA analysis for my trajectory using g_covar and g_anaeig, i have
taken trajectory of 25ns from both protein alone and protein_withligands(i
did two simulation one with ligands and other by removing the ligands from
pdb file)and extracted eigenvalues along first 10 eigenvector, when i
compared eigenvalues i find that protein_withligands has high values in
compare to protein alone,  but from literature protein alone is more
flexible structure and after ligand binding it changes in to more rigid
structure. primary analysis like RMSD, RMSF calculation showing high
values for protein alone in compare to protien_withligands. i think i
should also get higher eigenvalue for protein alone.. is any thing wrong
with my trajectory. i had used same mdp file for both simulation. i am
sending values of Ist 10 eigenvector for make my question more clear. any
suggestion is appreciable

The eigenvalues alone do not mean much. They probably do not correspond to
the same eigenvectors. You have to compare the eigenvectors from the two
simulations. This is possible using a RMSIP (root mean square inner product).
You'll find the definition and more details in papers from Amadei and Ceruso.
hints: Amadei et al., 1999; Ceruso et al., 1999a,b, 2003; Merlino et al., 
2003; Roccatano et al., 2003


Best,
XAvier.

protein-withligands
1 1.48497
2 0.674994
3 0.410547
4 0.279636
5 0.237182
6 0.213209
7 0.158359
8 0.140052
9 0.126227
10 0.113618

protein alone
1 0.526848
2 0.351471
3 0.267247
4 0.248945
5 0.222829
6 0.204475
7 0.158441
8 0.12583
9 0.0970591
10 0.0923962



thanks
sanjay

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Re: [gmx-users] minimization problem

2009-01-08 Thread David van der Spoel

Hongyan Xiao wrote:
Hi, David van der Spoel 
 
I used the periodic boundary conditions. The box 
is 3.006x3.002x6.000 along x,y,z direction,respectively.The following is 
the em.mdp file.


Then the minimization works correctly. See chapter 3 in the manual.

 
;

;   User xiao
;   2008.9.28 10:23
;   Input file
;
cpp =  /usr/bin/cpp
define  =  -DFLEXIBLE
constraints =  none
integrator  =  steep
nsteps  =  2
nstcomm =  1
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  0.8
coulombtype =  cut-off
rcoulomb=  1.2
vdwtype =  cut-off
rvdw=  1.2
Tcoupl  =  no
Pcoupl  =  no
gen_vel =  no
Please help me. Thanks again!
 
H. Y. Xiao
 





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Re: [gmx-users] Forces are large - How to track down the culprit

2009-01-08 Thread Steffen Wolf
Hi Shay,
sorry for the late comment - let me guess, you compiled Gromacs in
double precision? :)
Greetings
Steffen

  Is this reproducible?
 Yes. I've taken the same simulation and had it re-run and got the same error
 at the exact same frame (frame 693, which is timeframe 6930).

 You could try to fork off a tpr file using tpbconv -f -e -s -o just 
 before this happens and rerun it.
 I did something similar to what you suggest before posting here:
 Oddly enough the Warning did not occur: I ran the simulation up to 6000ps
 and then continued the simulation to another 4000ps and the simulation ran
 correctly and without any problems.

  It can also be combined by input parameters, e.g. too large time step, 
 too infrequent neighborsearching etc., use of cutoffs.
 If no other suggestions I'll try working that angle too, since a lot of my
 simulations are running with very similar mdp parameters without problems.

 Thanks again for your prompt reply,
 -Shay



 Shay Amram wrote:
   
 Of course. I'm using version 3.3.3 of GROMACS. 
 -Shay

 -Original Message-
 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org]
 On Behalf Of Mark Abraham
 Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 02:59 AM
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Forces are large - How to track down the culprit

 Shay Amram wrote:
 
 Greetings dear Gromacs users,

  

 I have recently been simulating a POPG membrane* in water (SPC). Several 
 of my simulations after running well into the 10ns and 20ns are 
 sometimes getting a Forces for atom X are large.  

 I'm rather unsure as to the cause of this situation. Moreover, as far as 
 I can tell from viewing the simulation, the system _does NOT_ explode 
 (as may be suggested by wiki.gromacs and some previous answers to this 
 kind of situation). The rest of the simulation looks much as it did in 
 the beginning.

 I would be interested (and thankful!) to hear any of your opinions as to 
 why I'm getting this message (or how to catch the culprit), and more 
 importantly, how to prevent it from happening in the future.
   
 During this version-transitive period, it's always right to report the 
 GROMACS version that you're using. It would normally be right to be 
 using the most recent version (4.0.2) if encountering problems.

 Mark
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[gmx-users] minimization problem

2009-01-08 Thread Hongyan Xiao
Hi,

I has used the periodic boundary conditions and correct em.mdp file. 
However, the minimized result is water/decane/water, while I set 
decane/water/decane as the initial system . I cannot understand the reason. 
Please give me some constructive suggestion! Thanks!

H. Y. Xiao 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] minimization problem

2009-01-08 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Hongyan Xiao wrote:

Hi,
 
I has used the periodic boundary conditions and correct em.mdp 
file. However, the minimized result is water/decane/water, while I set 
decane/water/decane as the initial system . I cannot understand the 
reason. Please give me some constructive suggestion! Thanks!
 


Your system is probably not centered in the box, and thus PBC is reconstructing 
it.  Use ngmx to see how Gromacs is viewing your system.


-Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] minimization problem

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Abraham

Hongyan Xiao wrote:

Hi,
 
I has used the periodic boundary conditions and correct em.mdp 
file. However, the minimized result is water/decane/water, while I set 
decane/water/decane as the initial system . I cannot understand the 
reason. Please give me some constructive suggestion! Thanks!


You need to understand that decane/water/decane under periodic boundary 
conditions has only one interface... the two decane segments are 
contiguous. Further, there's nothing magical about where you've placed 
that interface with respect to your initial box, since there are an 
infinite number of mathematically equivalent alternatives. The physics 
of the system and the algorithms in GROMACS will feel free to ignore 
your arbitrary choice. If you want to reconstruct a particular choice 
after a simulation, you will need to play around with editconf and/or 
trjconv.


Mark
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[gmx-users] problem with running mdrun in parallel

2009-01-08 Thread map110+
Hi there,

I am trying to run an MD simulation on a 13 residue peptide with distance
restraints. Before, I ran into a problem with this system when an error
message occurred during mdrun concerning distance restraints and domain
decomposition. There was apparently a bug in mshift.c and the bug was
fixed. However, at this point, my simulation works properly only if I use
the serial version of mdrun. When I try to run it in parallel, I get this
error message:

NNODES=4, MYRANK=0, HOSTNAME=chong06.chem.pitt.edu
NNODES=4, MYRANK=2, HOSTNAME=chong06.chem.pitt.edu
NNODES=4, MYRANK=3, HOSTNAME=chong06.chem.pitt.edu
NNODES=4, MYRANK=1, HOSTNAME=chong06.chem.pitt.edu
NODEID=0 argc=13
NODEID=3 argc=13
NODEID=2 argc=13
NODEID=1 argc=13
 :-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:

   Grunge ROck MAChoS

:-)  VERSION 4.0.2  (-:


  Written by David van der Spoel, Erik Lindahl, Berk Hess, and others.
   Copyright (c) 1991-2000, University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
 Copyright (c) 2001-2008, The GROMACS development team,
check out http://www.gromacs.org for more information.

 This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
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:-)  /home/map110/gromacs.4.0.2patched/bin/mdrunmpi  (-:

Option Filename  Type Description

  -s md.tpr  InputRun input file: tpr tpb tpa
  -o md.trr  Output   Full precision trajectory: trr trj cpt
  -x md.xtc  Output, Opt! Compressed trajectory (portable xdr format)
-cpi  state.cpt  Input, Opt.  Checkpoint file
-cpo  state.cpt  Output, Opt. Checkpoint file
  -c md.gro  Output   Structure file: gro g96 pdb
  -e md.edr  Output   Energy file: edr ene
  -g md.log  Output   Log file
-dgdl  dgdl.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-fieldfield.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-tabletable.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
-tablep  tablep.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
-tableb   table.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
-rerunrerun.xtc  Input, Opt.  Trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96 pdb cpt
-tpitpi.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-tpid   tpidist.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -eisam.edi  Input, Opt.  ED sampling input
 -eosam.edo  Output, Opt. ED sampling output
  -j   wham.gct  Input, Opt.  General coupling stuff
 -jobam.gct  Output, Opt. General coupling stuff
-ffout  gct.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-devout   deviatie.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-runav  runaver.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -px  pullx.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -pf  pullf.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-mtx nm.mtx  Output, Opt. Hessian matrix
 -dn dipole.ndx  Output, Opt. Index file

Option   Type   Value   Description
--
-[no]h   bool   no  Print help info and quit
-niceint0   Set the nicelevel
-deffnm  string Set the default filename for all file options
-[no]xvgrbool   yes Add specific codes (legends etc.) in the output
xvg files for the xmgrace program
-[no]pd  bool   no  Use particle decompostion
-dd  vector 0 0 0   Domain decomposition grid, 0 is optimize
-npmeint-1  Number of separate nodes to be used for PME, -1
is guess
-ddorder enum   interleave  DD node order: interleave, pp_pme or
cartesian
-[no]ddcheck bool   yes Check for all bonded interactions with DD
-rdd real   0   The maximum distance for bonded interactions with
DD (nm), 0 is determine from initial coordinates
-rconreal   0   Maximum distance for P-LINCS (nm), 0 is estimate
-dlb enum   autoDynamic load balancing (with DD): auto, no or yes
-dds real   0.8 Minimum allowed dlb scaling of the DD cell size
-[no]sum bool   yes Sum the energies at every step
-[no]v   bool   no  Be loud and noisy
-[no]compact bool   yes Write a compact log file
-[no]seppot  bool   no  Write separate V and dVdl terms for each
interaction type and node to the log file(s)
-pforce  real   -1  Print all forces larger than this (kJ/mol nm)
-[no]reprod  bool   no  Try to avoid optimizations that affect binary
reproducibility
-cpt real   15  Checkpoint interval (minutes)
-[no]append  bool   no  Append to previous output files when restarting
from checkpoint
-maxhreal   -1  Terminate after 0.99 times this 

[gmx-users] unit of the opls-aa force field in Gromacs package

2009-01-08 Thread sunnytov

Hello

Could someone tell me what are the exact units of the force constants of  
bond and angle term of the OPLS-aa force field implemented in the Gromacs  
package?


Thank you in advance
Sunjoo
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Re: [gmx-users] unit of the opls-aa force field in Gromacs package

2009-01-08 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



sunny...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello

Could someone tell me what are the exact units of the force constants of 
bond and angle term of the OPLS-aa force field implemented in the 
Gromacs package?




Table 5.4 in the manual.

-Justin


Thank you in advance
Sunjoo




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[gmx-users] Onw question about rlist rvdw rcoulomb and nstlist

2009-01-08 Thread xuji
Dear all gromacs users:

Usually when we do neighbour searching we should give three parameters: cut-off 
distance, buffer length and 
the frequency of the neighbour list updating. But in Gromacs *.mdp file it's 
just required to give rlist,nstlist, 
rvdw and rcoumlomb. Where is the buffer length of neighbour searching in 
Gromacs? 

Best
wishes!

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  2009-01-09
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Re: [gmx-users] Onw question about rlist rvdw rcoulomb and nstlist

2009-01-08 Thread Mark Abraham
xuji wrote:
 Dear all gromacs users:
 
 Usually when we do neighbour searching we should give three parameters: 
 cut-off distance, buffer length and 
 the frequency of the neighbour list updating. But in Gromacs *.mdp file it's 
 just required to give rlist,nstlist, 
 rvdw and rcoumlomb. Where is the buffer length of neighbour searching in 
 Gromacs? 

If I understand your question correctly, you are inferring the need for
a user-supplied buffer length from the usual practice in some other MD
code. GROMACS uses dynamic memory allocation for constructing the
neighbour lists, so there is no reason for the user to provide an
arbitrary size, like one might have done in the days of FORTRAN77.

Mark
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