Re: [gmx-users] trjcat error

2009-12-18 Thread Anirban Ghosh
Thanx Tsjerk for the reply.
I checked the .trr files with gmxcheck and one of the .trr files is giving
the error:

---
Checking file PRO_DAH_10_NS.part0004.trr
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame   0 time 1.000
# Atoms  135496
Reading frame1400 time 12800.001
---
Program gmxcheck, VERSION 4.0.5
Source code file: trnio.c, line: 66

File input/output error:
Can not determine precision of trn file


Is there any way to recover this .trr file? Or do I need to re-run the
simulation again?
Any suggestion is welcome.


Regards,


Anirban


On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Anirban,

 Check each trajectory with gmxcheck to see whether they are okay.

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk

 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Anirban Ghosh
 reach.anirban.gh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi ALL,
 
  I have 3 5 nano-seconds trajectory files (.trr) of a protein+lipid+water
  simulation. I am using trjcat to join them into a single .trr file for
  analysis and getting the following error:
 
 
 ---
  Continue writing frames from PRO_10_NS.part0003.trr t=4604 ps,
  frame=2302
   -  frame   3990 time 7980.000 ps -  frame   3910 time 7820.000 ps
  ---
  Program trjcat, VERSION 4.0.5
  Source code file: trnio.c, line: 66
 
  File input/output error:
  Can not determine precision of trn file
 
 
 
  What should I do? Any suggestion is welcome.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Anirban
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] trjcat error

2009-12-18 Thread Mark Abraham

Anirban Ghosh wrote:

Thanx Tsjerk for the reply.
I checked the .trr files with gmxcheck and one of the .trr files is 
giving the error:


---
Checking file PRO_DAH_10_NS.part0004.trr
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame   0 time 1.000  
# Atoms  135496
Reading frame1400 time 12800.001  
---

Program gmxcheck, VERSION 4.0.5
Source code file: trnio.c, line: 66

File input/output error:
Can not determine precision of trn file


Is there any way to recover this .trr file? Or do I need to re-run the 
simulation again?


Probably. Did the simulation end correctly? Did you run out of disk space?

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Re: [gmx-users] trjcat error

2009-12-18 Thread Anirban Ghosh
Thanks Mark for the reply.
The simulation ran fine and at the end of the .log file I got the following
line:

-
Parallel run - timing based on wallclock.

   NODE (s)   Real (s)  (%)
   Time: 125029.000 125029.000100.0
   1d10h43:49
   (Mnbf/s)   (GFlops)   (ns/day)  (hour/ns)
Performance:932.867 46.259  3.729  6.436
Finished mdrun on node 0 Fri Dec 11 22:58:06 2009
--

There was no error and I did not ran out of disk space. What should I do
now? Can I repair this .trr file anyway?
Any suggestion is welcome.

Regards,

Anirban



On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 Anirban Ghosh wrote:

 Thanx Tsjerk for the reply.
 I checked the .trr files with gmxcheck and one of the .trr files is giving
 the error:


 ---
 Checking file PRO_DAH_10_NS.part0004.trr
 trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
 Reading frame   0 time 1.000  # Atoms  135496
 Reading frame1400 time 12800.001
  ---
 Program gmxcheck, VERSION 4.0.5
 Source code file: trnio.c, line: 66

 File input/output error:
 Can not determine precision of trn file

 

 Is there any way to recover this .trr file? Or do I need to re-run the
 simulation again?


 Probably. Did the simulation end correctly? Did you run out of disk space?

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] trjcat error

2009-12-18 Thread Mark Abraham

Anirban Ghosh wrote:

Thanks Mark for the reply.
The simulation ran fine and at the end of the .log file I got the 
following line:


-
Parallel run - timing based on wallclock.

   NODE (s)   Real (s)  (%)
   Time: 125029.000 125029.000100.0
   1d10h43:49
   (Mnbf/s)   (GFlops)   (ns/day)  (hour/ns)
Performance:932.867 46.259  3.729  6.436
Finished mdrun on node 0 Fri Dec 11 22:58:06 2009
--

There was no error and I did not ran out of disk space. What should I do 
now? Can I repair this .trr file anyway?

Any suggestion is welcome.


Well if you haven't broken the file since (check its size), it was not 
written properly during the calculation. This sort of thing can happen 
with remote-mounted disks, etc. if the underlying filesystem is not solid.


Mark

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au 
mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


Anirban Ghosh wrote:

Thanx Tsjerk for the reply.
I checked the .trr files with gmxcheck and one of the .trr files
is giving the error:


---
Checking file PRO_DAH_10_NS.part0004.trr
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame   0 time 1.000  # Atoms  135496
Reading frame1400 time 12800.001
 ---
Program gmxcheck, VERSION 4.0.5
Source code file: trnio.c, line: 66

File input/output error:
Can not determine precision of trn file



Is there any way to recover this .trr file? Or do I need to
re-run the simulation again?


Probably. Did the simulation end correctly? Did you run out of disk
space?

Mark
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[gmx-users] reference for make_edi -linacc

2009-12-18 Thread chris . neale

Hello,

does anybody have a reference for the -linacc method applied by  
make_edi/mdrun? I have checked the references mentioned in make_edi -h  
as well as the manual, but didn't find anything that matches -linacc  
exactly.


For example, gromacs suggests that entire MD steps will be accepted or  
rejected if they do or do not move in the desired direction along the  
selected eigenvectors, respectively:


-linacc: perform acceptance linear expansion along selected eigenvectors.
(steps in the desired directions will be accepted, others will be rejected).

While the published version appears to be more complex:

B.L. de Groot, A.Amadei, R.M. Scheek, N.A.J. van Nuland and H.J.C. Berendsen;
An extended sampling of the configurational space of HPr from E. coli
PROTEINS: Struct. Funct. Gen. 26: 314-322 (1996)

Briefly, the algorithm consists of the following steps: a starting  
position is defined as the set of essential coordinates of the  
starting conformation; a number of regular MD steps is preformed; for  
each step, a new starting position is accepted only if it is not  
closer to the starting position than the previous position, in the  
subspace defined by the first three eigenvectors (i.e., if the  
distance from the starting position in this subspace does not  
decrease). If the new position is closet to the starting position, a  
correctio is applied only in the subspace defied by the first three  
eigenvectors with least perturbation.


Thank you,
Chris.

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Re: [gmx-users] reference for make_edi -linacc

2009-12-18 Thread Ran Friedman
Hi Chris,

Maybe in this paper:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1303567/

Daidone et al., Molecular Dynamics Simulation of Protein Folding by
Essential Dynamics Sampling: Folding Landscape of Horse Heart Cytochrome c

Ran.

chris.ne...@utoronto.ca wrote:
 Hello,

 does anybody have a reference for the -linacc method applied by
 make_edi/mdrun? I have checked the references mentioned in make_edi -h
 as well as the manual, but didn't find anything that matches -linacc
 exactly.

 For example, gromacs suggests that entire MD steps will be accepted or
 rejected if they do or do not move in the desired direction along the
 selected eigenvectors, respectively:

 -linacc: perform acceptance linear expansion along selected eigenvectors.
 (steps in the desired directions will be accepted, others will be
 rejected).

 While the published version appears to be more complex:

 B.L. de Groot, A.Amadei, R.M. Scheek, N.A.J. van Nuland and H.J.C.
 Berendsen;
 An extended sampling of the configurational space of HPr from E. coli
 PROTEINS: Struct. Funct. Gen. 26: 314-322 (1996)

 Briefly, the algorithm consists of the following steps: a starting
 position is defined as the set of essential coordinates of the
 starting conformation; a number of regular MD steps is preformed; for
 each step, a new starting position is accepted only if it is not
 closer to the starting position than the previous position, in the
 subspace defined by the first three eigenvectors (i.e., if the
 distance from the starting position in this subspace does not
 decrease). If the new position is closet to the starting position, a
 correctio is applied only in the subspace defied by the first three
 eigenvectors with least perturbation.

 Thank you,
 Chris.

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[gmx-users] reference for make_edi -linacc

2009-12-18 Thread chris . neale
Than you Ran, this looks good. The method is basically the same with  
the exception that Daidone et al. utilize a target structure as  
opposed to a target eigenvector, although the difference here is  
probably semantic.


I greatly appreciate it,
Chris.

-- original message --

Hi Chris,

Maybe in this paper:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1303567/

Daidone et al., Molecular Dynamics Simulation of Protein Folding by
Essential Dynamics Sampling: Folding Landscape of Horse Heart Cytochrome c

Ran.

chris.neale at utoronto.ca wrote:

Hello,

does anybody have a reference for the -linacc method applied by
make_edi/mdrun? I have checked the references mentioned in make_edi -h
as well as the manual, but didn't find anything that matches -linacc
exactly.

For example, gromacs suggests that entire MD steps will be accepted or
rejected if they do or do not move in the desired direction along the
selected eigenvectors, respectively:

-linacc: perform acceptance linear expansion along selected eigenvectors.
(steps in the desired directions will be accepted, others will be
rejected).

While the published version appears to be more complex:

B.L. de Groot, A.Amadei, R.M. Scheek, N.A.J. van Nuland and H.J.C.
Berendsen;
An extended sampling of the configurational space of HPr from E. coli
PROTEINS: Struct. Funct. Gen. 26: 314-322 (1996)

Briefly, the algorithm consists of the following steps: a starting
position is defined as the set of essential coordinates of the
starting conformation; a number of regular MD steps is preformed; for
each step, a new starting position is accepted only if it is not
closer to the starting position than the previous position, in the
subspace defined by the first three eigenvectors (i.e., if the
distance from the starting position in this subspace does not
decrease). If the new position is closet to the starting position, a
correctio is applied only in the subspace defied by the first three
eigenvectors with least perturbation.

Thank you,
Chris.



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[gmx-users] pdb2gmx -merge non interactive

2009-12-18 Thread Wojtyczka , André
Hi List,

is it possible to have the -merge option in pdb2gmx set to non-interactive?

I need to merge 8 copies of a protein into one definition (.top) because if
i don't do that all the chains are included into the .top-file. It is then not
possible for me (in an easy way) to include my restraints into the same .top 
file
because that would lead to a wrong order.

To cut a long story short... I need -merge in a script and there i don't need
interactivity at all ;)

Thx for your time
André



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[gmx-users] problems with intel I7 (2.67 GHz)

2009-12-18 Thread XAvier Periole


Dears,

we have been trying to run gmx-4.0.X on new machines with the
Intel I7 CPUs. It is a quad core intel on which multi-threading is
a default feature. This makes the system to behave as a 8 cores
machine.

We observed some strange behavior of gromacs. Note that is
certainly not due to gromacs itself.

Running jobs using 4 cores we have observed the following behavior:
- the info on the output files (log, xtc, edr ...) is not always printed
- gromacs switches cores, eg: cores 1,2,4,5, and then 2,3,5,6 ... and  
this

with no apparent logic.

Jobs using 8 cores become extremely slow, more than expected,
and if running at all.

Running 2 jobs with 4 cores each, one was running with 4 cores, the
second was using only 2 cores although mpirun was asked to use 4.

This is more disturbing since it was also possible to run two jobs
using 4 cores each successfully and have effectively increased
efficiency: each job running at 5/6 of the speed of one run on 4 cores
and running alone.

This was observed with:
- Ubuntu-9.10 (karmic) / kernel linux 2.6.31-14-generic (GNOME 2.28.1)
- openmpi-1.3.2/1.4.X
- gromacs 4.0.5/4.0.7

Anyone has any idea what could be going on on those I7?

Thanks,
We: Djurre ( XAvier)

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[gmx-users] pdb2gmx -merge non interactive

2009-12-18 Thread chris . neale

Can't you just do one of these:

echo 5 | pdb2gmx -f a.gro

or

pdb2gmx -f a.gro  EOF
5
EOF

--original message--

Hi List,

is it possible to have the -merge option in pdb2gmx set to non-interactive?

I need to merge 8 copies of a protein into one definition (.top) because if
i don't do that all the chains are included into the .top-file. It is then not
possible for me (in an easy way) to include my restraints into the  
same .top file

because that would lead to a wrong order.

To cut a long story short... I need -merge in a script and there i don't need
interactivity at all ;)

Thx for your time
André


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Re: [gmx-users] reference for make_edi -linacc

2009-12-18 Thread Carsten Kutzner
Hi Chris, 

I think linacc never rejects steps (the make_edi help is not quite correct here 
I am 
afraid) but either accepts them if they go into the right direction or 
otherwise 
corrects them. This way the system will without stalling go into the desired 
direction with respect to the selected eigenvector. From a quick look on the
paper I assume that they are using the radacc method there.

Carsten



On Dec 18, 2009, at 4:48 PM, chris.ne...@utoronto.ca wrote:

 Hello,
 
 does anybody have a reference for the -linacc method applied by 
 make_edi/mdrun? I have checked the references mentioned in make_edi -h as 
 well as the manual, but didn't find anything that matches -linacc exactly.
 
 For example, gromacs suggests that entire MD steps will be accepted or 
 rejected if they do or do not move in the desired direction along the 
 selected eigenvectors, respectively:
 
 -linacc: perform acceptance linear expansion along selected eigenvectors.
 (steps in the desired directions will be accepted, others will be rejected).
 
 While the published version appears to be more complex:
 
 B.L. de Groot, A.Amadei, R.M. Scheek, N.A.J. van Nuland and H.J.C. Berendsen;
 An extended sampling of the configurational space of HPr from E. coli
 PROTEINS: Struct. Funct. Gen. 26: 314-322 (1996)
 
 Briefly, the algorithm consists of the following steps: a starting position 
 is defined as the set of essential coordinates of the starting conformation; 
 a number of regular MD steps is preformed; for each step, a new starting 
 position is accepted only if it is not closer to the starting position than 
 the previous position, in the subspace defined by the first three 
 eigenvectors (i.e., if the distance from the starting position in this 
 subspace does not decrease). If the new position is closet to the starting 
 position, a correctio is applied only in the subspace defied by the first 
 three eigenvectors with least perturbation.
 
 Thank you,
 Chris.
 
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Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx -merge non interactive

2009-12-18 Thread Wojtyczka , André
Hi, thanks for your answer!

I think this only refers to the -ff force field selection.
I tried several scripting solutions to pass y to the pdb2gmx questions
whether to do the merging or not.

Maybe my wires are just crossed but i did not find any hint to
get rid of this questions.

 Can't you just do one of these:

 echo 5 | pdb2gmx -f a.gro

 or

 pdb2gmx -f a.gro  EOF
 5
 EOF

 --original message--

 Hi List,

 is it possible to have the -merge option in pdb2gmx set to non-interactive?

 I need to merge 8 copies of a protein into one definition (.top) because if
 i don't do that all the chains are included into the .top-file. It is then 
not
 possible for me (in an easy way) to include my restraints into the
 same .top file
 because that would lead to a wrong order.

 To cut a long story short... I need -merge in a script and there i don't need
 interactivity at all ;)

 Thx for your time
 André



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52425 Juelich
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Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender),
Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt,
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[gmx-users] pdb2gmx -merge non interactive

2009-12-18 Thread chris . neale

What exactly did you try? Something like this?

pdb2gmx -f a.gro  EOF
5
y
EOF

I have not done -merge myself, but I often pass in multiple  
'command-line' arguments in a scripts, although it is necessary to run  
it through on the command line once to see what the order of arguments  
should be. I could be the one whose wrong as I have never done -merge,  
but then again I have never had a problem automating any of the  
gromacs tools and I don't see why this one should be any different.



-- original message --

Hi, thanks for your answer!

I think this only refers to the -ff force field selection.
I tried several scripting solutions to pass y to the pdb2gmx questions
whether to do the merging or not.

Maybe my wires are just crossed but i did not find any hint to
get rid of this questions.

 Can't you just do one of these:

 echo 5 | pdb2gmx -f a.gro

 or

 pdb2gmx -f a.gro  EOF
 5
 EOF

 --original message--



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Re: [gmx-users] error with changing pdb file

2009-12-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ksm tprk wrote:

Hello Justin,

I used ffgmx.n2t gromacs force field. and my topology file is:



;
;   This is your include topology file
;   Generated by x2top
;
; Include forcefield parameters
#include ffgmx.itp

[ moleculetype ]
; Namenrexcl
ICE 3

[ atoms ]
;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass 
 typeBchargeB  massB
 1  C  1UNK  C  0  0 12.011 
 C  0  0   ; qtot 0
 2  C  1UNK  C  1  0 12.011 
 C  0  0   ; qtot 0

 3  C  1UNK  C  2
.
 24  C  1UNK  C 23  0 12.011  C 
 0  0   ; qtot 0
25  N  1UNK  N 24  014.0067 
 N  0  0   ; qtot 0
26  C  1UNK  C 25  0 12.011 
 C  0  0   ; qtot 0

..


Thank you helping me,


I can't keep trying to help you if you don't provide relevant information.  If 
you want free help, you have to make it easy for those trying to help you.  This 
topology snippet is not at all what I asked to see.  To be clear, please post 
the following information:


1. The lines from the topology specified in the grompp error messages (the line 
numbers are given in the error messages)
2. The coordinate file entries that correspond to the atoms on those lines.  It 
would be helpful to see the coordinate file that works, as well as the one that 
was modified that no longer works.


Going back to your very first post, the root of the problem is that there are 
not bonded parameters in the ffgmx force field to describe whatever changes you 
made.  Since you have yet to actually demonstrate what these changes were and 
how the affected the topology, there is no better help that anyone can provide.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx -merge non interactive

2009-12-18 Thread Wojtyczka , André
Hmm...

although it is necessary to run
it through on the command line once to see what the order of arguments
should be

...exactly is the main problem as I don't know all the time how many chains
are in the files I'm processing.
Pdb2gmx asks for every chain included in your files.

Though I can assume 8 chains in 99% of the files, I wanted to know if there
may be a switch included in pdb2gmx like -ff.

Maybe I prescan my files to get the amount of chains and then pass that
value to my pdb2gmx script.

Anyway, thanks for your answer, I appreciate it!


 What exactly did you try? Something like this?

 pdb2gmx -f a.gro  EOF
 5
 y
 EOF

 I have not done -merge myself, but I often pass in multiple
 'command-line' arguments in a scripts, although it is necessary to run
 it through on the command line once to see what the order of arguments
 should be. I could be the one whose wrong as I have never done -merge,
 but then again I have never had a problem automating any of the
 gromacs tools and I don't see why this one should be any different.


 -- original message --

 Hi, thanks for your answer!

 I think this only refers to the -ff force field selection.
 I tried several scripting solutions to pass y to the pdb2gmx questions
 whether to do the merging or not.

 Maybe my wires are just crossed but i did not find any hint to
 get rid of this questions.

  Can't you just do one of these:
 
  echo 5 | pdb2gmx -f a.gro
 
  or
 
  pdb2gmx -f a.gro  EOF
  5
  EOF
 
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Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx -merge non interactive

2009-12-18 Thread Oliver Stueker
Hallo André,

Check the wiki:
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Making_Commands_Non-Interactive

Oliver

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:59, Wojtyczka, André
a.wojtyc...@fz-juelich.de wrote:
 Hi List,

 is it possible to have the -merge option in pdb2gmx set to non-interactive?

 I need to merge 8 copies of a protein into one definition (.top) because if
 i don't do that all the chains are included into the .top-file. It is then not
 possible for me (in an easy way) to include my restraints into the same .top 
 file
 because that would lead to a wrong order.

 To cut a long story short... I need -merge in a script and there i don't need
 interactivity at all ;)

 Thx for your time
 André
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Re: [gmx-users] error with changing pdb file

2009-12-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ksm tprk wrote:

Hi Justin,

I will try to be more clear. What I did, first I created a carbon 
nanotube using Tubegen carbon nanotube generator. After that I changed 
one carbon atom with another atom using text editor.

My ffgmx file is same as what http://cs86.com/CNSE/SWNT.htm has.
Next I created .top by applying ffgmx.n2t force field and .gro file 
respectively. And I used grompp to run my simulation. And What I got the 
error is:




OK, the problem is pretty straightforward now.  You have a nitrogen atom within 
a CNT, and there are no suitable angle parameters for such a system.  The atom 
type chosen is simply N, which (from the ffgmx.atp file) corresponds to a 
peptide nitrogen in an amide, which is not what is present in your system so 
this assignment is incorrect.  Perhaps NR6 might be more appropriate?


-Justin


creating statusfile for 8 nodes...

Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.3#
checking input for internal consistency...
calling cpp...
processing topology...
Generated 1282 of the 1485 non-bonded parameter combinations
WARNING 1 [file cnt80.top, line 11144]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 2 [file cnt80.top, line 11144]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
WARNING 3 [file cnt80.top, line 11145]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 4 [file cnt80.top, line 11145]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
WARNING 5 [file cnt80.top, line 11187]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 6 [file cnt80.top, line 11187]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
WARNING 7 [file cnt80.top, line 11189]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 8 [file cnt80.top, line 11189]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
WARNING 9 [file cnt80.top, line 11190]:
  No default Angle types, using zeroes
WARNING 10 [file cnt80.top, line 11190]:
  No default Angle types for perturbed atoms, using normal values
Cleaning up temporary file grompp5QOA9q
---
Program grompp_mpi, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: fatal.c, line: 416




The error atom is 25th atom. and the error lines specified in topology 
file are( I underlined and made bold them):


.
[ angles ] 
;  aiajak functc0c1c2   
 c3

2 120 1
1 2 3 1
2 3 4 1
2 322 1
4 322 1
3 4 5 1
 *   3 425 1*
*5 425 1*
*   * 4 5 6 1
5 6 7 1
6 7 8 1
6 726 1
8 726 1
7 8 9 1
7 829 1
9 829 1
8 910 1
91011 1
   101112 1
   101130 1
   121130 1
   111213 1
   111233 1
   131233 1
   121314 1
   131415 1
   141516 1
   141534 1
   161534 1
   151617 1
   151637 1
   171637 1
   161718 1
   171819 1
   181920 1
   181938 1
   201938 1
12019 1
12021 1
   192021 1
   202122 1
   202140 1
   222140 1
32221 1
32223 1
   212223 1
   222324 1
   222342 1
   242342 1
  * 232425 1*
   232445 1
   *252445 1*
*42524 1*
42526 1
   242526 1
72625 1
.



I attached topology and coordinate files too.
I am sorry that I gave not enough information.

Thank you,
Kasim


  I can't keep trying to help you if you don't provide relevant 
information. If
  you want free help, you have to make it easy for those trying to help 
you. This
  topology snippet is not at all what I asked to see. To be clear, 
please post

  the following information:
 
  1. The lines from the topology specified in the grompp error messages 
(the line

  numbers are given in the error messages)
  2. The coordinate file entries that correspond to the atoms on those 
lines. It
  would be helpful to see the coordinate file that works, as well as 
the one that

  was modified that no longer works.
 
  Going back to your very first post, the root of the problem is that 
there are
  not bonded parameters in the ffgmx force field to describe whatever 
changes you
  made. Since you have yet to actually demonstrate what these changes 
were and
  how the affected the topology, there is no better help that anyone 
can provide.

 
  -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] How can I reconstruct the system in CGMD simulation?

2009-12-18 Thread César Ávila
For a detailed description of how to set up protein simulation, I recomend
you to read the Martini Tutorial on
http://md.chem.rug.nl/~marrink/MARTINI/Tutorial.html
there you will find  step by step instructions along with some explanations
of what you are actually doing.
In this case you only want to build a water box around your protein. For
that you will use editconf and a vdw distance of 0.19.

Regards
Cesar

2009/12/17 rasoul nasiri nasiri1...@gmail.com

 yes, I know there will be limitation for modeling of Folding/Unfolding
 proteins with MARtini CGFF if I want to look at complete folding/unfolding
 mechanism of proteins but I want to find out localized regions of the
 protein (e.g. the C- or N-termini) that they have contribution to the
 denaturation mechanism.
 My question is about vdwd in beads of water. Is it OK if I select distances
 of 0.15-0.20nm as vdwd of water beads in CGMD simulation or I have to
 reconstruct the system in smaller vdw distance of the water beads for doing
 my purpose. and Which commands of Gromacs can do it?

 Best regards
 Rasoul

 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM, César Ávila clav...@gmail.com wrote:

 I suggest you read the original paper for Martini Protein FF. I think it
 is not suitable for your purpouse.

 2009/12/17 rasoul nasiri nasiri1...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 My purpose is finding of denaturation mechanism of proteins with MArtini
 CGFF by Gromacs.
 I mean after filling box in which there are beads of protein from water
 beads with suitable van der wall distance (larger than 0.105nm), when I want
 to start production phase, first switch back to the smaller radius of van
 der waals of the water beads, then I will continue CGMD simulation. Is it
 possible I reduce this radius? Which commands of Gromacs suit can do it?

 Rasoul


 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Mark Abraham 
 mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 rasoul nasiri wrote:

 greetings GMX users,

 When I use genbox command for filling solvent in CGMD simulation with
 Gromacs suit, I must use a larger van der Waals distance to avoid crashes.
 when I use default value (0.105nm), system will crash. Which distance is
 suitable for performing CGMD simulation. I used  0.15 or 0.2nm as 
 distances.
 Are those OK?


 Read up on your forcefield and find out how large the particles tend
 to be. It only has to be good enough, not perfect.


  I have to switch back to the smaller radius afterward, Is it correct?


 Changing what for what purpose?


  if yes, How can I do it? I tried with editconf but could not.


 I don't know what you mean.

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] problems with intel I7 (2.67 GHz)

2009-12-18 Thread David van der Spoel

Alexey Shvetsov wrote:

On Пятница 18 декабря 2009 19:29:15 XAvier Periole wrote:

Dears,

we have been trying to run gmx-4.0.X on new machines with the
Intel I7 CPUs. It is a quad core intel on which multi-threading is
a default feature. This makes the system to behave as a 8 cores
machine.

We observed some strange behavior of gromacs. Note that is
certainly not due to gromacs itself.

Running jobs using 4 cores we have observed the following behavior:
- the info on the output files (log, xtc, edr ...) is not always printed
- gromacs switches cores, eg: cores 1,2,4,5, and then 2,3,5,6 ... and
this
with no apparent logic.

Jobs using 8 cores become extremely slow, more than expected,
and if running at all.

Running 2 jobs with 4 cores each, one was running with 4 cores, the
second was using only 2 cores although mpirun was asked to use 4.

This is more disturbing since it was also possible to run two jobs
using 4 cores each successfully and have effectively increased
efficiency: each job running at 5/6 of the speed of one run on 4 cores
and running alone.

This was observed with:
- Ubuntu-9.10 (karmic) / kernel linux 2.6.31-14-generic (GNOME 2.28.1)
- openmpi-1.3.2/1.4.X
- gromacs 4.0.5/4.0.7

Anyone has any idea what could be going on on those I7?

Thanks,
We: Djurre ( XAvier)

Well its usual behavior of systems with HT (Hyper threading) enabled. so its 
better to disable HT on such cpus so any cpu eating application like gromacs 
will run faster on it.


No, this is not what I have heard from Berk Hess, he said that running 8 
processes on 4 cores gives a speed up of 6-7 times a single core.


It sounds more like you need to tune the kernel such that jobs stay on 
the core they are on. As far as I know Ubuntu is a Desktop OS, maybe you 
want a Server OS?


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Re: [gmx-users] How can I reconstruct the system in CGMD simulation?

2009-12-18 Thread rasoul nasiri
Dear Cesar,
Thank you for your reply,

There are two different kind of water gro in this site (one of them is
water.gro in :
http://md.chem.rug.nl/~marrink/MARTINI/Coordinates.html
and another is water-1bar-303k.gro in :
 http://md.chem.rug.nl/~marrink/MARTINI/Tutorial.html . Is there difference
between them?
Can I build water.gro with coarse graining beads (P4) from spc216.gro with
using atom2cg.awk script?

Another question; How can I change secondary structure information during
CGMD simulation, If I want to perform CGMD simulation for finding of the
folding/unfolding mechanism in proteins completely? Because Martini CGFF
consider fix it.

Cheers
Rasoul


On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:02 PM, César Ávila clav...@gmail.com wrote:

 For a detailed description of how to set up protein simulation, I recommend
 you to read the Martini Tutorial on
 http://md.chem.rug.nl/~marrink/MARTINI/Tutorial.htmlhttp://md.chem.rug.nl/%7Emarrink/MARTINI/Tutorial.html
 there you will find  step by step instructions along with some explanations
 of what you are actually doing.
 In this case you only want to build a water box around your protein. For
 that you will use editconf and a vdw distance of 0.19.

 Regards
 Cesar

 2009/12/17 rasoul nasiri nasiri1...@gmail.com

 yes, I know there will be limitation for modeling of Folding/Unfolding
 proteins with MARtini CGFF if I want to look at complete folding/unfolding
 mechanism of proteins but I want to find out localized regions of the
 protein (e.g. the C- or N-termini) that they have contribution to the
 denaturation mechanism.
 My question is about vdwd in beads of water. Is it OK if I select
 distances of 0.15-0.20nm as vdwd of water beads in CGMD simulation or I have
 to reconstruct the system in smaller vdw distance of the water beads for
 doing my purpose. and Which commands of Gromacs can do it?

 Best regards
 Rasoul

 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM, César Ávila clav...@gmail.com wrote:

 I suggest you read the original paper for Martini Protein FF. I think it
 is not suitable for your purpouse.

 2009/12/17 rasoul nasiri nasiri1...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 My purpose is finding of denaturation mechanism of proteins with MArtini
 CGFF by Gromacs.
 I mean after filling box in which there are beads of protein from water
 beads with suitable van der wall distance (larger than 0.105nm), when I 
 want
 to start production phase, first switch back to the smaller radius of van
 der waals of the water beads, then I will continue CGMD simulation. Is it
 possible I reduce this radius? Which commands of Gromacs suit can do it?

 Rasoul


 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Mark Abraham 
 mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 rasoul nasiri wrote:

 greetings GMX users,

 When I use genbox command for filling solvent in CGMD simulation with
 Gromacs suit, I must use a larger van der Waals distance to avoid 
 crashes.
 when I use default value (0.105nm), system will crash. Which distance is
 suitable for performing CGMD simulation. I used  0.15 or 0.2nm as 
 distances.
 Are those OK?


 Read up on your forcefield and find out how large the particles tend
 to be. It only has to be good enough, not perfect.


  I have to switch back to the smaller radius afterward, Is it correct?


 Changing what for what purpose?


  if yes, How can I do it? I tried with editconf but could not.


 I don't know what you mean.

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] problems with intel I7 (2.67 GHz)

2009-12-18 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
On Пятница 18 декабря 2009 23:47:34 David van der Spoel wrote:
 Alexey Shvetsov wrote:
  On Пятница 18 декабря 2009 19:29:15 XAvier Periole wrote:
  Dears,
 
  we have been trying to run gmx-4.0.X on new machines with the
  Intel I7 CPUs. It is a quad core intel on which multi-threading is
  a default feature. This makes the system to behave as a 8 cores
  machine.
 
  We observed some strange behavior of gromacs. Note that is
  certainly not due to gromacs itself.
 
  Running jobs using 4 cores we have observed the following behavior:
  - the info on the output files (log, xtc, edr ...) is not always printed
  - gromacs switches cores, eg: cores 1,2,4,5, and then 2,3,5,6 ... and
  this
  with no apparent logic.
 
  Jobs using 8 cores become extremely slow, more than expected,
  and if running at all.
 
  Running 2 jobs with 4 cores each, one was running with 4 cores, the
  second was using only 2 cores although mpirun was asked to use 4.
 
  This is more disturbing since it was also possible to run two jobs
  using 4 cores each successfully and have effectively increased
  efficiency: each job running at 5/6 of the speed of one run on 4 cores
  and running alone.
 
  This was observed with:
  - Ubuntu-9.10 (karmic) / kernel linux 2.6.31-14-generic (GNOME 2.28.1)
  - openmpi-1.3.2/1.4.X
  - gromacs 4.0.5/4.0.7
 
  Anyone has any idea what could be going on on those I7?
 
  Thanks,
  We: Djurre ( XAvier)
 
  Well its usual behavior of systems with HT (Hyper threading) enabled. so
  its better to disable HT on such cpus so any cpu eating application like
  gromacs will run faster on it.
 
 No, this is not what I have heard from Berk Hess, he said that running 8
 processes on 4 cores gives a speed up of 6-7 times a single core.
 
 It sounds more like you need to tune the kernel such that jobs stay on
 the core they are on. As far as I know Ubuntu is a Desktop OS, maybe you
 want a Server OS?
 
In this case seems cpuaffinity was turned off for mpi apps. check that kernel 
has 
cpusets support
ale...@xeon /misc/_Work/RecA/pca $ zgrep CPUSET /proc/config.gz
CONFIG_CPUSETS=y
CONFIG_PROC_PID_CPUSET=y

And check that your openmpi compiled with support of cpusets
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Re: [gmx-users] error with changing pdb file

2009-12-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ksm tprk wrote:

Hi Justin,

I got same error before.



The solution is still the same.  You have listed all of your carbon atom types 
as simply C which corresponds to a bare carbon (carbonyl, etc) and if you 
search in ffgmxbon.itp for an angle involving three of these atoms, you won't 
find any.  Choose a suitable atom type for these atoms and look for available 
parameters in ffgmxbon.itp.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] exclusive list of matching searches on the gmx-users list

2009-12-18 Thread chris . neale

Hello,

does anybody know how to get an exclusive list of matching searches  
while searching the gromacs mailing list using the new search tool?


I have tried:
essential dynamics Address not mapped
essential dynamics and Address not mapped
essential dynamics AND Address not mapped
essential dynamics  Address not mapped
essential dynamics  Address not mapped

and in both cases I get hundreds of results that are related to one or  
the other of the topics that I am searching but the top results have  
no bearing on what I am actually looking for (I didn't check all 200+  
results).


The previous mailing list search was exclusive in this way. For  
example, I can still use the old search tool:  
http://oldwww.gromacs.org/swish-e/search/search2.php and a search for:


essential dynamics Address not mapped

clearly indicates that there are no hits.

I like the new feature that I can see some of the text from the  
matching posts, but I have run into this implied-OR functionality  
before in other searches on this list and it really is a lot harder to  
find relevant posts now.


If this implicit-OR functionality can not be removed or worked around,  
perhaps we should note this and put a link to the old search engine on  
the main page...


Thanks,
Chris.

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[gmx-users] Residue interaction energy

2009-12-18 Thread abelius

Dear All,

Is there a way to calculated the interaction energy of a single residue 
with its environment?
I would like to compare two simulations with a W residue in an 
alternative rotameric position.


Thank you in advance,
Abel

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Re: [gmx-users] Residue interaction energy

2009-12-18 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



abelius wrote:

Dear All,

Is there a way to calculated the interaction energy of a single residue 
with its environment?
I would like to compare two simulations with a W residue in an 
alternative rotameric position.




Read in the manual about the energygrps .mdp keyword.

-Justin


Thank you in advance,
Abel



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[gmx-users] essential dynamics mdrun with SD integrator yields segmentation fault

2009-12-18 Thread chris . neale

Hello,

In my hands, mdrun throws a segfault when passing the -ei flag to  
mdrun and utilizing the sd integrator. I'll admit that I have only  
tried this with a single system. Nevertheless, using -linacc vs.  
-linfix makes no difference, neither does moving to constraints=none  
or parallel vs. serial mdrun. However, when I change sd to md, the run  
is fine.


With sd and -ei, the segfault is immediate:

$ mdrun -deffnm edi -nosum -dlb yes -npme -1 -cpt 30 -maxh 48 -cpi  
edi.cpt -ei testpositive.edi -eo testpositive.edo

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Option Filename  Type Description

  -sedi.tpr  InputRun input file: tpr tpb tpa
  -oedi.trr  Output   Full precision trajectory: trr trj cpt
  -xedi.xtc  Output, Opt. Compressed trajectory (portable xdr format)
-cpiedi.cpt  Input, Opt!  Checkpoint file
-cpoedi.cpt  Output, Opt. Checkpoint file
  -cedi.gro  Output   Structure file: gro g96 pdb
  -eedi.edr  Output   Energy file: edr ene
  -gedi.log  Output   Log file
-dgdl   edi.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-field  edi.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-table  edi.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
-tablep edi.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
-tableb edi.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
-rerun  edi.xtc  Input, Opt.  Trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96 pdb cpt
-tpiedi.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-tpid   edi.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -ei testpositive.edi  Input, Opt!  ED sampling input
 -eo testpositive.edo  Output, Opt! ED sampling output
  -jedi.gct  Input, Opt.  General coupling stuff
 -joedi.gct  Output, Opt. General coupling stuff
-ffout  edi.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-devout edi.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-runav  edi.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -pxedi.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -pfedi.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-mtxedi.mtx  Output, Opt. Hessian matrix
 -dnedi.ndx  Output, Opt. Index file

Option   Type   Value   Description
--
-[no]h   bool   no  Print help info and quit
-niceint19  Set the nicelevel
-deffnm  string edi Set the default filename for all file options
-[no]xvgrbool   yes Add specific codes (legends etc.) in the output
xvg files for the xmgrace program
-[no]pd  bool   no  Use particle decompostion
-dd  vector 0 0 0   Domain decomposition grid, 0 is optimize
-npmeint-1  Number of separate nodes to be used for PME, -1
is guess
-ddorder enum   interleave  DD node order: interleave, pp_pme or cartesian
-[no]ddcheck bool   yes Check for all bonded interactions with DD
-rdd real   0   The maximum distance for bonded interactions with
DD (nm), 0 is determine from initial coordinates
-rconreal   0   Maximum distance for P-LINCS (nm), 0 is estimate
-dlb enum   yes Dynamic load balancing (with DD): auto, no or yes
-dds real   0.8 Minimum allowed dlb scaling of the DD cell size
-[no]sum bool   no  Sum the energies at every step
-[no]v   bool   no  Be loud and noisy
-[no]compact bool   yes Write a compact log file
-[no]seppot  bool   no  Write separate V and dVdl terms for each
interaction type and node to the log file(s)
-pforce  real   -1  Print all forces larger than this (kJ/mol nm)
-[no]reprod  bool   no  Try to avoid optimizations that affect binary
reproducibility
-cpt real   30  Checkpoint interval (minutes)
-[no]append  bool   no  Append to previous output files when continuing
from checkpoint
-[no]addpart bool   yes Add the simulation part number to all output
files when continuing from checkpoint
-maxhreal   48  Terminate after 0.99 times this time (hours)
-multi   int0   Do multiple simulations in